Impact of VY closing studied

I live in Vernon and lets see 50 out of 650 live here. Big deal, most of those came from other places. Because of Vermont Yankee we live everyday waiting for an accident at this accident prone plant. Many of us would love yo move but do not have the money too. Where would we go, we were here before the plant. We were glad its hear, but with the safety problems and being told 2012 thats it now were told and pet on the head and told " It's safe its okay think about you taxes and money " Taxes will ACTUALLY go down because many of the 50 will have to leave. Less services will be needed.

Brain,

Who built the school? 50 homes average what 3500 in taxes, that's $175k, what do think the homes will be worth when the town gets reassessed by the state. Look at Wiscaset, Maine. People are still trying to sell their homes over ten years later. Home prices, and taxes have dropped dramatically there. If you think you can't afford to move now, what until 2013 when the plant is no longer operating and VY's tax base turns to mush.

You'll also love not have the services that you deem to be no longer 'needed' that you have become accustom to over the years.

Brian wrote:

I live in Vernon and lets see 50 out of 650 live here. Big deal, most of those came from other places. Because of Vermont Yankee we live everyday waiting for an accident at this accident prone plant. Many of us would love yo move but do not have the money too. Where would we go, we were here before the plant. We were glad its hear, but with the safety problems and being told 2012 thats it now were told and pet on the head and told " It's safe its okay think about you taxes and money " Taxes will ACTUALLY go down because many of the 50 will have to leave. Less services will be needed.

Hay mon, sounds like ya smoked some VT weed/ thot weed is mooe deadley to ya lungs than vt yankee///

Like it or not, closing VY will devastate Southern Vermont's economy. Plus it will increase carbon pollution and air pollution by massive quantities. The rest of the world - including nearly everywhere else in the US - including many other blue states in the Midwest and Mid-Atlantic - aside for New England and Cali - is moving towards nuclear power as a solution to global warming - while Vermont is moving towards COAL and massive electric rate increases.
There's no reason for VY to even be closed in 20 years - in another 20 years, the concrete will still be good, but the primary containment and torus steel will have to be overhauled; perhaps the RPV would need replacing in 40 years or so. By then, a second and third reactor can be built at the site, and a full overhaul of VY 1 could be undertaken for 5 years or so to rebuild it for another 80 years at that point.
The anti-nuclear power movement is way past its expiration date. It's desperate assault on VY is its last gasp - of a generation who transferred their nightmares of October 1962 onto a peaceful technology that is probably the last best hope to save the world from carbon-induced global warming meltdown.
The sun don't shine and the wind don't blow all the time, we don't have oil, we don't have enough gas, we only have a choice between mountaintop removal coal mining - coming soon to the Green Mountains near you - or yes, clean, yes, safe, yes, reliable, nuclear power. There is no real choice except for a fool.
And I pity tha' fool.

DCS wrote:

Like it or not, closing VY will devastate Southern Vermont's economy. Plus it will increase carbon pollution and air pollution by massive quantities. The rest of the world - including nearly everywhere else in the US - including many other blue states in the Midwest and Mid-Atlantic - aside for New England and Cali - is moving towards nuclear power as a solution to global warming - while Vermont is moving towards COAL and massive electric rate increases.
There's no reason for VY to even be closed in 20 years - in another 20 years, the concrete will still be good, but the primary containment and torus steel will have to be overhauled; perhaps the RPV would need replacing in 40 years or so. By then, a second and third reactor can be built at the site, and a full overhaul of VY 1 could be undertaken for 5 years or so to rebuild it for another 80 years at that point.
The anti-nuclear power movement is way past its expiration date. It's desperate assault on VY is its last gasp - of a generation who transferred their nightmares of October 1962 onto a peaceful technology that is probably the last best hope to save the world from carbon-induced global warming meltdown.
The sun don't shine and the wind don't blow all the time, we don't have oil, we don't have enough gas, we only have a choice between mountaintop removal coal mining - coming soon to the Green Mountains near you - or yes, clean, yes, safe, yes, reliable, nuclear power. There is no real choice except for a fool.
And I pity tha' fool.

Problem is, these people don't want nuclear power
and they don't want windmills to spoil their scenery,
so wind power is out too.

If VY is certified as good for VT for the next 20 years, why not offer up some incentives to get Entergy to build a replacement plant on the site so that in 20 years it is ready to come on line and pickup the load (as well as the taxes and employees).

Otherwise a green field on the bank of the river will make a wonderful cow power pasture.

Wally wrote:

If VY is certified as good for VT for the next 20 years, why not offer up some incentives to get Entergy to build a replacement plant on the site so that in 20 years it is ready to come on line and pickup the load (as well as the taxes and employees).
Otherwise a green field on the bank of the river will make a wonderful cow power pasture.

Current use for the solid waste byproduct produced by our cows is fertalizer. We have a purpose for it so why the redundancy? Because it runs off into the lakes and creates algae?.....which by the way algea has been tested and confirmed as a potential power source in its own right. But then if not cow waste byproduct to fertalize our fields, then we must create artificial fertalizers out of bloodshed petroleum! Cow power is way to controversial for Vermonters! We must instead replace Vermont Yankee with a trash to kilowatts station.

Oh, it's going to have impact all right.

Wally wrote:

If VY is certified as good for VT for the next 20 years, why not offer up some incentives to get Entergy to build a replacement plant on the site so that in 20 years it is ready to come on line and pickup the load (as well as the taxes and employees).
Otherwise a green field on the bank of the river will make a wonderful cow power pasture.

This state isn't going to offer up any incentives because most of our socialist legislature is anti nuke. Entergy isn't going to want to build a plant here either when there are many other places that actually WANT a nuke plant and wont fight them.

In number of jobs, it would be the equivalent to firing every teacher and administrator in the Burlington School District and then firing an additional 100 district employees.
The average teacher in Vermont earns $44,535 in salary. The average school administrator in Vermont earns $77,740. Vermont Yankee has an annual payroll of $4.6 million dollars.
You may not have heard of this additional benefit to Vermont, but we could expect an additional $750 million dollars in estimated benefits resulting from revenue sharing agreement that goes into effect if 20 year license renewal is approved.

"we all need jobs to pay our debts, and we vote for politicians who promise to create jobs. Unfortunately, every job depends on the consumption of natural resources, especially energy resources (oil, gas, coal, uranium). Some energy sources, such as sun, wind, water, geothermal and uranium, can make electricity. Others, such as oil, gas and coal, make electricity but also can power school busses, tractors, dump trucks, bulldozers and airplanes. No substitutes are available for petrochemicals, which are currently peaking, so their disappearance will cause massive changes in our society. In other woeds, oil is the most important parameter of man's carrying capacity; the disappearance of oil will decrease our ability to create jobs."
David B. Van Vleck

When the nuclear plant in Columbia County, Oregon closed, the media, local officials, and many residents were convinced that the local economy would go down the drain. Their vision was limited to what the plant provided.

Instead, the opposite happened-- exactly what community planners who understood the dynamics had predicted.

The plant had inhibited growth in the county. When it was gone, both sustainable industry and people began moving in. Today it is one of the most desirable counties in northern Oregon.

Think about this: you have a dynamic community, a beautiful location, an educated and skilled work force. What is holding Brattleboro back? It is the presence of that antiquated nuclear plant and the deadening impact it has on real progress.

Dayle Ann Stratton wrote:

Think about this: you have a dynamic community, a beautiful location, an educated and skilled work force. What is holding Brattleboro back?

Most of that educated and skilled workforce is at VY and they will leave the area rather than work for pennies on the dollar at a used bookstore.

Dayle Ann Stratton wrote:

When the nuclear plant in Columbia County, Oregon closed, the media, local officials, and many residents were convinced that the local economy would go down the drain. Their vision was limited to what the plant provided.
Instead, the opposite happened-- exactly what community planners who understood the dynamics had predicted.
The plant had inhibited growth in the county. When it was gone, both sustainable industry and people began moving in. Today it is one of the most desirable counties in northern Oregon.
Think about this: you have a dynamic community, a beautiful location, an educated and skilled work force. What is holding Brattleboro back? It is the presence of that antiquated nuclear plant and the deadening impact it has on real progress.

Brattleboro has issues with it governance....the selectman type of government is too clumsily for this day and age, they always cancel each other out and nothing ever gets done. The selectmen job isn’t paying and it involved a huge amount of time that good managers just don’t have the time for. I think they got to go to a mayor type of governance...a more centralize force.

I think their is a nexus of political power, Rutland, Montpelier, Burlington more or less in the middle of the state and little old Brattleboro is all by itself. Vermont is such a small population state...plus the big Vermont cities have full time mayors and can spend a lot of time politicking the state capital while the selectman type of political power is too dispersed and powerless.

Dayle Ann Stratton wrote:

When the nuclear plant in Columbia County, Oregon closed, the media, local officials, and many residents were convinced that the local economy would go down the drain. Their vision was limited to what the plant provided.
Instead, the opposite happened-- exactly what community planners who understood the dynamics had predicted.
The plant had inhibited growth in the county. When it was gone, both sustainable industry and people began moving in. Today it is one of the most desirable counties in northern Oregon.
Think about this: you have a dynamic community, a beautiful location, an educated and skilled work force. What is holding Brattleboro back? It is the presence of that antiquated nuclear plant and the deadening impact it has on real progress.

This isn't Oregon. Think about it this way, what happened to Springfield Vermont when they lost their machiene shops, when Bellows Falls lost their paper mills? Winooski has only started to recover in the last five years after their wool mills went out. I have no doubt that Vermont will recover, the question is, will it be 20, 30, 50 or 100years before they do so?