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Mother Of Slain Toddler Gives Birth

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NoUse

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Ms.Queen of Delusions, "they" did not murder Kelsey either. Raye did. My opinion based on evidence.
yaMeVoy wrote:
Correction;
does not compare to them e-mailing the murderer of kelsey briggs smith and conspiring with him to lie and frame some one else so they can get 7 million dollars.
I have seen many be murdered for less.
at least they did not murder raye dawn. I want to thank them for that.
KelseysVoice

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I seem to be having trouble replying to Tulsa's last post. Moderator needs another First Amendment lesson. Sue has no conception of the word "evidence".

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Kristee wrote:
<quoted text>That is not your call!!!!!!!!! Obviously our Lord felt fine with giving her another child!!!!!!!!!!
God doesn't give babies to beaters

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Kristee wrote:
Anything is possible! After all MP raped and murdered Kelsey and got to be BFF's w/Grandma and Aunt Shirica AND will get out someday AND be free to prey on others because NO ONE will ever know that he is a SEX OFFENDER!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to the Briggs!!!!!!!!!! Way to go! Way to "protect others" but at least it got Raye"where she belongs",right?
Kristee, I am beginning to wonder if you are Raye Dawn herself using an alias

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Alright Frankie and Witch ***ch, you both need to knock it off. You are both acting like flaming trolls.

And by the way witch, we are to love the sinners but hate the sin, including love you despite your falters.

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WitchieWoman wrote:
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Sorry, Frankie, I am not Jack, look at the ISP, it say Oklahoma City, that is where my dsl service is, I'm not scared to say that I live in Midwest City. So, actually, there is no way I could be this Jack person!!!!!!!!!! TRY AGAIN, SHERLOCK!!!!!!!!!!
If you live in the vincinity of Air Depot between 15 and Reno behind a certain Video Store then please do us all a favor in that neck of the woods, AND GET THE BLOODY HELL OUT OF THERE
KelseysVoice

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Midwest City Alumni wrote:
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God doesn't give babies to beaters
Apparently He did in this case. The one good thing is that she can't hurt Blaine the way she did his sister.
KelseysVoice

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Midwest City Alumni wrote:
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Kristee, I am beginning to wonder if you are Raye Dawn herself using an alias
Porter will look like a lecherous pedophile by the time he gets out. And his murderous wife will be too old to have more children to torture.

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http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....

Jury Got It Wrong
Posted at 06:01 AM on November 08, 2009

By Barry Jon and Ron Lee

Investigative Reporters



Bristow, Oklahoma -

Every parent who

has lost a child to
a predator,

and every father and/or mother who
discovers a daughter or
son vanished due to abduction,

or was abused by an attacker,
now stands to be convicted for enabling that vicious crime.
That is what the jury of the Raye Dawn Smith case in Oklahoma must think.

Raye Dawn Smith's two-year-old daughter Kelsey was murdered on October 11, 2005, by her stepfather, Michael Porter. Porter is serving a 30-year sentence for enabling child abuse, a plea deal he took after being charged with first degree murder and sexual assault. Instead, he now claims that the mother abused and killed Kelsey, but logic dictates that Porter is lying. After Porter was arrested, he asked that Smith care for his daughter and son. Why would you ask someone who you think just abused and killed their child to watch your own? The District Attorney, Richard Smothermon, even began his interview of Porter on the witness stand by stating, "You know that I believe you murdered and sexually assaulted Kelsey?"

Several months prior to Kelsey's murder, Kelsey had been returned to Raye Dawn Smith's full-time care by Judge Craig Key. This was a result of a long custody battle with Kelsey's paternal family, and in particular Kelsey's grandmother, Kathie Briggs. The custody battle included claims of abuse against Smith by Briggs, but it was proven by Smith's defense that what was charged as abuse came when Kelsey was either not in Smith's care, or couldn't be proven as abuse. In fact, both her legs were shown, according to timelines and expert testimony, to having been broken while in the care of Kathie Briggs. According to the investigating sheriff in the case, he believes Kathie Briggs suffers from Munchausen's by Proxy Syndrome (MBSP). According to emedicinehealth.com MBSP is defined as, "a caregiver who fakes symptoms by causing injury to someone else, often a child ..."

The Department of Human Services (DHS) was heavily involved in the life of Kelsey Smith-Briggs in 2005, and a DHS case worker even saw Kelsey the day of her death. This trained professional didn't ever see cause to remove Kelsey, after her return to Smith's home. So, how is it that Raye Dawn should have? Smith even stated during an interview, "I wish I had seen it coming. Kelsey would be alive today."
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YaMeVoy wrote:
http://helprayedawnsmithfightf orfreedom.webs.com/apps/blog/
Jury Got It Wrong
Posted at 06:01 AM on November 08, 2009
By Barry Jon and Ron Lee
Investigative Reporters
Bristow, Oklahoma -
Every parent who
has lost a child to
a predator,
and every father and/or mother who
discovers a daughter or
son vanished due to abduction,
or was abused by an attacker,
now stands to be convicted for enabling that vicious crime.
That is what the jury of the Raye Dawn Smith case in Oklahoma must think.
Raye Dawn Smith's two-year-old daughter Kelsey was murdered on October 11, 2005, by her stepfather, Michael Porter. Porter is serving a 30-year sentence for enabling child abuse, a plea deal he took after being charged with first degree murder and sexual assault. Instead, he now claims that the mother abused and killed Kelsey, but logic dictates that Porter is lying. After Porter was arrested, he asked that Smith care for his daughter and son. Why would you ask someone who you think just abused and killed their child to watch your own? The District Attorney, Richard Smothermon, even began his interview of Porter on the witness stand by stating, "You know that I believe you murdered and sexually assaulted Kelsey?"
Several months prior to Kelsey's murder, Kelsey had been returned to Raye Dawn Smith's full-time care by Judge Craig Key. This was a result of a long custody battle with Kelsey's paternal family, and in particular Kelsey's grandmother, Kathie Briggs. The custody battle included claims of abuse against Smith by Briggs, but it was proven by Smith's defense that what was charged as abuse came when Kelsey was either not in Smith's care, or couldn't be proven as abuse. In fact, both her legs were shown, according to timelines and expert testimony, to having been broken while in the care of Kathie Briggs. According to the investigating sheriff in the case, he believes Kathie Briggs suffers from Munchausen's by Proxy Syndrome (MBSP). According to emedicinehealth.com MBSP is defined as, "a caregiver who fakes symptoms by causing injury to someone else, often a child ..."
The Department of Human Services (DHS) was heavily involved in the life of Kelsey Smith-Briggs in 2005, and a DHS case worker even saw Kelsey the day of her death. This trained professional didn't ever see cause to remove Kelsey, after her return to Smith's home. So, how is it that Raye Dawn should have? Smith even stated during an interview, "I wish I had seen it coming. Kelsey would be alive today."
Yet another paid article from the Observer. Where was Kelsey when she was murdered? With her mother. whokilledkelsey.com
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WHy is it that when Observer "articles" are posted here the posters usually fail to give this brilliant voice of truth and decency credit?

Anyone reading Sue's post knows full well where that piece of yelow "journalism" she posted came from. The judge, DA, jury and anyone with an IQ over 95 got it wronge! And of course the "mainstrean media" (ie. any publications that are not run by conspiracy theory hate mongers) conspired right along with the goverment against Smith.

Does this sound at all crazy to anyone? Because it really, really should
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Erika wrote:
WHy is it that when Observer "articles" are posted here the posters usually fail to give this brilliant voice of truth and decency credit?
Anyone reading Sue's post knows full well where that piece of yelow "journalism" she posted came from. The judge, DA, jury and anyone with an IQ over 95 got it wronge! And of course the "mainstrean media" (ie. any publications that are not run by conspiracy theory hate mongers) conspired right along with the goverment against Smith.
Does this sound at all crazy to anyone? Because it really, really should
Don't forget that the Briggs family controls the police, media, and the entire government of the state of Oklahoma. It's ludicrous when you consider that the Smiths had to pay the Observer to write that stuff about Raye.
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KV, Who could forget that the Briggs "run" Oklahoma?
KelseysVoice

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Erika wrote:
KV, Who could forget that the Briggs "run" Oklahoma?
Their paranoia is terrifying, isn't it?
Erika

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I wouldn't say terrifing, but anything I would say will end up being objectionable to Smith's defenders.

I grew up in Oklahoma and Texas, so if there is one thing I can identify it's down home white trash. But apparently it is not OK to call the Smith's white trash. Funny considering how much effort Ray's supporters have put into trying to prove she is a ignorant no account hillbilly as a way of explaining or excusing her comments and behaviors.

I can't think of anything more white trash than Smith. Drinking and doping while pregnant, two baby daddies in 3 years. Not taking responsibility for her actions... need I go on. "She be nothin' but a ho"

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Thanks for the good point kristee, thanks for your time and consideration...
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Anything is possible! After all MP raped and murdered Kelsey and got to be BFF's w/Grandma and Aunt Shirica AND will get out someday AND be free to prey on others because NO ONE will ever know that he is a SEX OFFENDER!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to the Briggs!!!!!!!!!! Way to go! Way to "protect others"

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Look, I think Raye Dawn did more than Porter, but that is not what the arguement is about. The arguement at hand is should Raye Dawn be allowed to keep her son, and my answer is a definite no. You know, what if she did get to keep her son, then he will find out his parents are murderers and rapists (hey, if she allowed Porter to do a nasty act to the poor child, then Raye Dawn deserve the title) then he will resent her, and hate her, so might as well save him the grief and anger and put him in a good home where the parents are loving and will take care of him. I hope he never finds out who Raye Dawn is
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sadly, it has been said on this forum that Blaine visits his mother in jail. How messed up is that??
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KelseysVoice wrote:
<quoted text>Yet another paid article from the Observer. Where was Kelsey when she was murdered? With her mother. whokilledkelsey.com
Because you repeatedly state that the Observer's articles were written for and paid by the Smith's, therefore lacking in credibility...what is your evidence?
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Call the Observer. Tell them you have a story that is PRO federal goverment PRO Judicial System and ask if they will publish it. The have someone else call offering an anti federal goverment article of any kind and see what happens.

I don't know if the Smith's paid, but I do know the Observer is not a newspaper. The Observer is intended for a certian audience. An audience that would rather read lies that AGREES with their existing belief system than one that forces them to consider that there are other VALID points of view.
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