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I agree, they CAN be more dangerous in the wrong hands...and considering the mojority of owners in this area are loosers that own these dogs and breed them in their back yards, we will see more pit bites. But banning them wont work- because the sweet pits will loose out and the reputable breeders will loose out. Which will only put us with even more aggressive dogs and crappy owners. Thats like saying "a lot of the crime in Newport News has been commited by black people, so they are more dangerous and meaner than any other race, lets ban them." Doesnt make sense. Yankee wrote: It isn't a question of whether or not other animals are dangerous. It is a question of which animals are more dangerous. Would you keep a bear? Even if it was domesticated? If you keep a pit bull, you reap what you sow. Keep whatever dog you want, but statistics, I assume, demonstrate more lethal attacks by pit bulls than any other breed. There is a reason for that. I must say I am shocked that pit bull owners, even considering their bias, do not recognize these animals are more dangerous than most breeds.
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That makes sense. I don't propose banning them. I think you should be able to own them, it just surprises me when everytime we hear of one of these attacks, the pit bull owners jump to their defense and claim they aren't dangerous, when indeed they are. Thus my original premise that pit bulls owners sometimes come across as delusional.
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learn a bit wrote: You have no clue what you are talking about. Try educating yourself before letting out more word vomit. <quoted text> I've owned a lot of different breeds of dogs. My German Shepherd was one of the sweetest dogs that ever lived, and incredibly loyal. The Siberian Huskies that I've had were wonderful, happy-go-lucky clowns, and very loving. I also had a pit bull puppy for a few months, and it was so over-the-top aggressive that I had to get rid of it. Pit bulls have been bred for many generations to enhance the aggressive trait. You can probably train the dog to minimize those traits, but they're always just under the surface waiting to come out. A lot of the fault goes to the dog breeders, and to organizations like the AKC, which publish "standards" for qhat a quality <fill-in-the-breed> is. Back in the 80s, there was a problem with Dobermans and Rottweilers that was traced back to the "standard" for the breed which included a certain ideal size and shape of the head. Breeders bred for that trait, and many dogs ended up with skulls too small for their brains, making them constantly angry and aggressive. The AKC just said "oops... maybe we don't want that" and revised its' standards. The "there are no bad dogs, only bad owners" thing is bunk, especially when breeding is such a huge business.
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This story needs to be longer. The report states that it was due to a dispute in the home. Pitbulls are strong territorial dogs. If there was a fight between the owner and the woman then the dogs were "protecting" the turf-you could say. I feel really bad for the woman and I hope that she gets well soon. This article would probably have been written differently if it were some other breed of dog and not one that has had countless attack reports in recent years. I am not siding with the dogs but merely stating something that should be considered. These dogs can be very loving dogs. The owner is showing responsibility and care in the fact that he quarentened them and is cooperating with animal control and police. I am sure that he feels bad about the incident. We should look at the entire story-both reported and unreported- before fingers are pointed at the dogs only.
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If you want a dog, get a dog but why oh why does it have to be a PITBULL???
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Good Grief wrote: If you want a dog, get a dog but why oh why does it have to be a PITBULL??? Because they WANT a dog who is predisposed to being aggressive. There is so much information out there on the traits of the various breeds (i.e. great with kids, good hunters, etc.) that it's not usually an "accident" that someone gets a pit bull. They want this sort of behavior, and then they moan when they get it.
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please dont have been jonathans dogs......
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What you say is partly true. Thugs have adopted pit bulls and made them killing machines. A pit bull is one of the most loyal dog breeds you'll ever see. That's why they will fight to the death if it pleases their master. It's also why training a pit bull to fight is especially cruel. They fight not of of viciousness, but because their "loving" master wants them to do that. Actually, they are quite gentle. Are you old enough to remember Spanky & Our Gang? That was a pit. A friend of mine does pit bull rescue. She has a dog now (a former fighter) that she's had for 6 years. He's the sweetest guy you'd ever want to meet. I have a cat and two dogs, and since the first day she brought him here (housesitting, I wasn't even here or I would have said no too.) he's never gone after any of my animals. Now he comes here by invitation. Rich wrote: I'll never understand having pit bulls. They have been bred to be aggressive and dangerous, and most are a time bomb waiting to go off. These dogs aren't pets - they're weapons. Only thugs and people who are up to something that they think needs shielding from either other thugs or the cops would have these beasts.
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That's just the point! When a pit attacks it's sensationalized. When other breeds attack it isn't. It's about training, not the breed. Actually, if you talk to the SPCA they will tell you that cocker spaniels bite more than any other breed. But who's going to make a big deal out of that? Yankee wrote: You people defending pit bulls are delusional. When is the last time you heard about a labrador killing someone? Or a German Shepherd for that matter? These are vicious animals with a higher than average tendency to attack. I don't care if you own one or not, mind you, but to say they aren't dangerous is just silly.
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A Brother have to have a thug dog to make up for his lack of manhood. The dogs are more intelligent then the thug owners.
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Yes, cocker spaniels can be a temperamental breed but no one hears about them being trained and conditioned to attack and be so aggressive. Cocker spaniels may bite but maybe not the same kind of bite as a pitbull. Which would you rather take your chances with?
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My point was that pits get all the bad press. Cockers have what is known as "cocker rage" where they snap without provocation and bite. Since they don't do much damage, and they're so cute and cuddly vs a muscle dog like a pit, it's not newsworthy. Chihuahuas can be biters too, but who's going to report on a mean chihuahua? They don't kill anyone when they bite. That being said, every time a pit bites it makes the news. They are powerful enough to kill someone. The incidences of pits biting vs the incidences of small breeds biting are not proportional to what gets reported. Hampton Blues wrote: Yes, cocker spaniels can be a temperamental breed but no one hears about them being trained and conditioned to attack and be so aggressive. Cocker spaniels may bite but maybe not the same kind of bite as a pitbull. Which would you rather take your chances with?
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My cat- who was always an inside animal and had NEVER been out of the house in 10 years, ran out the side door one day and tried to catch a bird. No one showed her, no one trained her.. it was just instinct. a natural born trait of a cat !! Its the same with dogs,for some, its instinct. Some are bred to be hunters and fighters and they should not be kept as pets.
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Der wrote: Okay, so I had to google "pomeranian attack." Happened in 2001, apparently a pomeranian killed a 6-week old infant. Is there a media bias in reporting dog attacks? Yes.
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Condem the owner. If you must have then you must be in control. When he commanded to attack he knew the damage it would cause. You are nothing but a week coward. Because she wouldn't do your do you bring bodily harm. You need to be bit by the big boys in JAIL! You wimp.
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it is nice to know that someone agrees with the tempermant of pits. they are loyal, faithfull dogs. when trained properly, and loved they make wonderfull family pets. they are great around kids. i have two kids of my own, and they have been around them alot. i have recently adopted a pit-shepard mix myself. Lee wrote: A person can train a labrador to attack and fight if they choose to....same as a pit bull brought up in a nice, loving, nurturing home can be a wonderful family pet. It's the owner, not the dog. I've witnessed a dalmation attack someone! Pit bulls take the fall because so many people choose to train them to fight because their physiology makes them apt to be "good fighters". Sometimes I wonder that maybe the cliche' "people should have a license to..." own a dog might not be a bad idea... <quoted text>
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it is nice to know that someone agrees with the tempermant of pits. they are loyal, faithfull dogs. when trained properly, and loved they make wonderfull family pets. they are great around kids. i have two kids of my own, and they have been around them alot. i have recently adopted a pit-shepard mix myself.
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LMFAO.... The pitbull debate. All you pitbull owners whom think your pit will never do anyone any harm are living in a dream world. It's only a matter of time and the older the pit gets the more likely they will act in this fashion. Even worse once they have had they taste of blood. I know of many previous pit owners whom used to think as all you did. And do not give me this bul l s h i t about if trained properly and taken GOOD care of a pit will not hurt anyone. Here is a perfect example for you diluted beliefs. A couple had a pit from birth also had 2 children. One of the children was only 2 years old and the other was 7. Children were playing in the backyard like normal children do. Dog was in his Kennel where his owners normally kept the animal. I used to visit them right often and the pit was always a baby as some of you pit owners say. I was in the house the day this happened and was only 21 years old. This dog had never shown any aggression towards anyone. But for some reason while we were watching them kids play this dog (whom had played with them children on so many occassions its not even funny) decided to jump over the fence in the kennel and attack the kids the dog had been growing up with. Now i know for a fact this dog was never abused, never mistreated. The freaking kennel this man build for the dog was 10' X 9' in deminsion and had heating and cooling in the damn dog's house. This dog had been pampered not mistreated. So can you loyal pit owner explain why this LOYAL pit decided to attack the kid unprovoked? From that point in my life i decided pitbull's were DANGEROUS! Ask any animal control officer.
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