Religious Lies

If God is all knowing and he knows our future,then how is that Free Will...???

True Believer wrote:

If God is all knowing and he knows our future,then how is that Free Will...???

Free willy? That movie sucked!

god knew adam and eve would do their naughty thing and he created humans and knew theyd not get along so he is responsible for the holocaust and wars and all the bad shit that goes on. he knew before he created everything what the future would turn out like, but yet he did it anyway. plus i am feeding damn stray cats because i feel sorry them and god should be taking care of them damn cats. he has more money than me. i can barely feed myself yet he bombards me with homeless hungry poor damn cats. why should i have to try to feed them. i never created them. they suffer because he created them. thats just shitty. he needs to be more responsible.

abc wrote:

god knew adam and eve would do their naughty thing and he created humans and knew theyd not get along so he is responsible for the holocaust and wars and all the bad shit that goes on. he knew before he created everything what the future would turn out like, but yet he did it anyway. plus i am feeding damn stray cats because i feel sorry them and god should be taking care of them damn cats. he has more money than me. i can barely feed myself yet he bombards me with homeless hungry poor damn cats. why should i have to try to feed them. i never created them. they suffer because he created them. thats just shitty. he needs to be more responsible.

I don't remember any of that in Free willy 1,2,or 3. Was there a fourth one?

Adversity comes from sin (created by ourselves and/or others), Devil, and God. It SHOULD allow us to develop into a "Godly" character. We choose how to respond.

True Believer wrote:

If God is all knowing and he knows our future,then how is that Free Will...???

Because we don't know what He knows. He's not telling. He lets us make choices, good or bad, aka Free Will.

I make my kids go to church or i am mean to them

True Believer wrote:

If God is all knowing and he knows our future,then how is that Free Will...???

If you sat a bowl of your childs favorite cereal and a bowl of vegetables in front of him and told him that the vegetables were a better choice but told him to make the decision ...you know what he will choose and you still know which bowl will be empty when u come back in the room hence foreknowledge and free will collide

Same with a joint. If you legalize marijuana but told society it was bad for them and the better choice would be not to smoke it, you know what man will choose to do and you know it will be abused and hence foreknowledge and free choice will again collide.

I believe sometimes we have to experience certain things in our life (bad or good) to get us onto the correct, or Godly path in this sense. Our trials allow us the opportunity to reach out to Christ. Most people miss this and continuously keep doing un-Godly things to fill that void in their life. From my experience, when you do un-Godly things, your life just ends up in a mess.

When I was about 14 years old, I had a teenage friend tell me who was a follower of Christ and read the Bible frequently say, "Even if it isn't true; it is still a good way to live your life." I'm not saying to have doubt because you must believe, but if you choose to be a nonbeliever you can learn a lot from the Bible if you allow yourself. I realize you must start somewhere.

Yes, people aren't too trusting, and have to try things out for themselves. Why is it though, that Holland has a lower incidence of drug use among teens, than we do here? "For the last three years, Polak has presented to Costa (at every opportunity) the same simple query: "If prohibition is the only way to contain the drug problem, how do you explain that the prevalence of cannabis use is lower or similar in the Netherlands than in many neighboring countries?" As the Hungarian Civil Liberties Union explains, "the hypothesis behind drug prohibition is that if we repress the supply of drugs the demand will automatically reduce." Thus, if that theory held true, marijuana use should have skyrocketed in the Netherlands after its government decriminalized the drug in 1976." So, to you DrNo, I say this, prohibition doesn't reduce demand. The very reason marijuana is profitable, is also why it's so popular here, and that's because of prohibition. Now you say that if you tell a man something is bad, he'll be more likely to do, and that's false also, however, putting a lot of attention on something, can have the affect of advertisement. The combination of both tolerance and simple education, without the hysterics, is actually what causes the Netherlands to have less of a problem.

Ahhhhhh, the God thread is turning into the pot thread!

True Believer wrote:

If God is all knowing and he knows our future,then how is that Free Will...???

There's no god that sees our future, and no such thing as free will. Everything that happens is determined by the state of affairs proceeding it, also known as determinism. You Christians however, believe in pre-determinism, which says everything that happens is pre-determined at the beginning of the universe. I also believe in pre-determinism, but hold that there's no free will, and no god causing anything.

boo_ wrote:

I believe sometimes we have to experience certain things in our life (bad or good) to get us onto the correct, or Godly path in this sense.

So, what you're saying, is that people learn from their mistakes? Are you also implying that people learn Jesus from their life experience? Like,'Oh, I dropped a hammer on my foot, I knew I should have went to church.'

I wish I had enough faith to be an atheist but it takes far more faith to believe that everything came from absolutely nothing than to believe there is something that created everything

How is it easier to believe that what we've never seen has always been (god), than what we do see has always been, or occurred gradually (everything).

Faith should not equate to believing anything, or that the more ridiculous, only means the more faith required.

True Believer wrote:

If God is all knowing and he knows our future,then how is that Free Will...???

DUH! Take the next step......

all i know for sure is, there is evil out there that is unbeleivable.

No one really knows.