keepitreal

Carthage, TN

#82 May 4, 2012
MsDeb wrote:
My whole family is going. That includes me, hubby, 2 daughters, 2 son-in-laws and 5 grandkids. We ALL love Generation Church. Finally a church that is NOT boring!!
It is a good thing if you & your family are loving this church. EVERYONE should find where they can worship and find peace with God. I don't know much about this church or the music. I do know as in ANY church there are some people who will lie and justify their bad behavior. we are all sinners and I have to ask God to forgive me. I'm not ANYONE judge but God does give us common sense to know right from wrong. I know one couple who comes to this church whom BOTH are married to other people. This is family so I know for a fact what is going on. They tell everyone they are married and they have a little girl. The man has a wife with a little girl whom he has NEVER paid one dime of child support or is this child welcome in their home. I know what the bible says about divorce and about a man taking care of his family.They left their other church cause the pastor found out the lie they were living. They have come into this church serving and working hard in in. I would hope the leaders of this church doesn't know what they are doing. I'm not judging them cause I have things in my own life that I have to work on but it bothers me when ANYONE takes a leadership role in a church when they are living a life full of lies. How is this teaching little kids what God's word is if certain adults are breaking God's rules? If this church believes in this kind of behavior then it wont be the church I could serve in. I think EVERYONE should find a church to serve in but not in leadership role where kids or maybe a sinners will think it is ok since this couple is doing it. We are examples for others, we are to do what God's word teaches us. I do realize that ALL churchs have things going on and I'm not picking on this church.
Questions

Portland, TN

#83 May 4, 2012
keepitreal wrote:
<quoted text>It is a good thing if you & your family are loving this church. EVERYONE should find where they can worship and find peace with God. I don't know much about this church or the music. I do know as in ANY church there are some people who will lie and justify their bad behavior. we are all sinners and I have to ask God to forgive me. I'm not ANYONE judge but God does give us common sense to know right from wrong. I know one couple who comes to this church whom BOTH are married to other people. This is family so I know for a fact what is going on. They tell everyone they are married and they have a little girl. The man has a wife with a little girl whom he has NEVER paid one dime of child support or is this child welcome in their home. I know what the bible says about divorce and about a man taking care of his family.They left their other church cause the pastor found out the lie they were living. They have come into this church serving and working hard in in. I would hope the leaders of this church doesn't know what they are doing. I'm not judging them cause I have things in my own life that I have to work on but it bothers me when ANYONE takes a leadership role in a church when they are living a life full of lies. How is this teaching little kids what God's word is if certain adults are breaking God's rules? If this church believes in this kind of behavior then it wont be the church I could serve in. I think EVERYONE should find a church to serve in but not in leadership role where kids or maybe a sinners will think it is ok since this couple is doing it. We are examples for others, we are to do what God's word teaches us. I do realize that ALL churchs have things going on and I'm not picking on this church.
I really hope that Pastor Brandon puts a stop to their leadership roles if this is true. If they want to come to church and worhship that is fine but not leading others.
old timer n portland

Carthage, TN

#84 May 4, 2012
everyone needs to just find a church where they can serve & worship God
Wow

Portland, TN

#85 May 5, 2012
keepitreal wrote:
<quoted text>It is a good thing if you & your family are loving this church. EVERYONE should find where they can worship and find peace with God. I don't know much about this church or the music. I do know as in ANY church there are some people who will lie and justify their bad behavior. we are all sinners and I have to ask God to forgive me. I'm not ANYONE judge but God does give us common sense to know right from wrong. I know one couple who comes to this church whom BOTH are married to other people. This is family so I know for a fact what is going on. They tell everyone they are married and they have a little girl. The man has a wife with a little girl whom he has NEVER paid one dime of child support or is this child welcome in their home. I know what the bible says about divorce and about a man taking care of his family.They left their other church cause the pastor found out the lie they were living. They have come into this church serving and working hard in in. I would hope the leaders of this church doesn't know what they are doing. I'm not judging them cause I have things in my own life that I have to work on but it bothers me when ANYONE takes a leadership role in a church when they are living a life full of lies. How is this teaching little kids what God's word is if certain adults are breaking God's rules? If this church believes in this kind of behavior then it wont be the church I could serve in. I think EVERYONE should find a church to serve in but not in leadership role where kids or maybe a sinners will think it is ok since this couple is doing it. We are examples for others, we are to do what God's word teaches us. I do realize that ALL churchs have things going on and I'm not picking on this church.
Well, I personally know the leaders of this church and there is no one "leading" that fits this description. I think it is great that you do not want to judge, but you still did when you "talked about them" the way you did. Though you may not have intended to do so, your comments brought into question the integrity of this church and those who lead. Unless you or someone else are willing to cast the stone and publicly point this couple out, it has to be left into God's hands. But just for the record:
Pastor: Married with 2 children
Campus Pastor: Married with 3 children
Kids Ministry: Married with adopted child
Student Ministry: Single
Worship Leader: Single
old timer n portland

Carthage, TN

#86 May 5, 2012
people can turn a blind eye to anything if they want to. God gave all of us a brain and I don't think it is judging anyone by being aware of what is going on. I would want to know if ANY person in my church that was teaching my child or grandkids to know if someone was making this kind of choice. I would not be their judge and this seems to always be the verse so many people wants to use to justify what they are doing. We ALL have things we have to work on. I know that for me I'm not going to be running around on my wife and NEVER would I not pay or take care of ALL of my kids. I could care less if I got to "fool" any church people because they are not the ones I will face on JUDGMENT day. That should be what we all should fear. Just pray for these people who might be running around on their wife or if they aren't taking care of their child. Nothing else can be done or should it matter. This isn't judging anyone.
Questions

Portland, TN

#87 May 5, 2012
Wow wrote:
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Well, I personally know the leaders of this church and there is no one "leading" that fits this description. I think it is great that you do not want to judge, but you still did when you "talked about them" the way you did. Though you may not have intended to do so, your comments brought into question the integrity of this church and those who lead. Unless you or someone else are willing to cast the stone and publicly point this couple out, it has to be left into God's hands. But just for the record:
Pastor: Married with 2 children
Campus Pastor: Married with 3 children
Kids Ministry: Married with adopted child
Student Ministry: Single
Worship Leader: Single
This is all well and good but what about the Sunday school teachers? I wouldn't want someone that dishonest to be teaching my child about the Bible. There has been too much said or hinted at to just ignore this.
what time

Portland, TN

#88 May 5, 2012
Kara Kaye wrote:
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Sunday morning 9 and 10:30
Sunday night 6
well that sux,i like wed night the best :(
Wow

Portland, TN

#89 May 5, 2012
Questions wrote:
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This is all well and good but what about the Sunday school teachers? I wouldn't want someone that dishonest to be teaching my child about the Bible. There has been too much said or hinted at to just ignore this.
There is a Gkids ministry for ages 5 to 10. This is run by the Kid Ministry: Married with adopted child.
There is a nursery overseen by a married school teacher and they have two children.
The crawlers is overseen by married lady with two children.
The two to four years is overseen by the pastor's wife and they have two children.
We have many helpers that mostly consist of our teenagers. They have to be 12 years or older and they have to go through training.

You are welcome to come, but since you have said that you don't, I don't see how this church is effecting your children.

All any church can do and should do, is open their doors and let the people in and try to bring them closer to God. It is up to the individual on how they handle their relationship with Him.

I totally understand what you are saying, but again, are you willing to cast that stone and point them out? If it is such a concern, then contact the church and speak to someone. You stated that they are representing themselves falsely, so obviously this is a situation unknown to the church. Since you feel so strongly about it, step up and talk to a leader at the church. It is your choice. You can toss the stone up and down in your palm or go ahead and throw it. All I ask is that you do it the right way and not assume the leaders know about this and are allowing it to happen. That is judging.
Questions

Portland, TN

#90 May 6, 2012
Wow wrote:
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There is a Gkids ministry for ages 5 to 10. This is run by the Kid Ministry: Married with adopted child.
There is a nursery overseen by a married school teacher and they have two children.
The crawlers is overseen by married lady with two children.
The two to four years is overseen by the pastor's wife and they have two children.
We have many helpers that mostly consist of our teenagers. They have to be 12 years or older and they have to go through training.
You are welcome to come, but since you have said that you don't, I don't see how this church is effecting your children.
All any church can do and should do, is open their doors and let the people in and try to bring them closer to God. It is up to the individual on how they handle their relationship with Him.
I totally understand what you are saying, but again, are you willing to cast that stone and point them out? If it is such a concern, then contact the church and speak to someone. You stated that they are representing themselves falsely, so obviously this is a situation unknown to the church. Since you feel so strongly about it, step up and talk to a leader at the church. It is your choice. You can toss the stone up and down in your palm or go ahead and throw it. All I ask is that you do it the right way and not assume the leaders know about this and are allowing it to happen. That is judging.
I am NOT the one that wrote the orginal message. I do come to your church every Sunday and bring my family. I am just pointing out that since this subject has been brought up a few times in the thread that it needs to be addressed. Sorry if you misunderstood.
GrannyT

Portland, TN

#91 May 6, 2012
To keepitreal: I am quite sure I know who you are refering to. She is NOT in a leadership role. She is on the Dream Team and helps in many ways. No they are NOT married and have a daughter in the 3rd grade. As far as I know she never divorced her first husband. I do not know anything about the father of her daughter. I just see him at church every Sunday. I know she is a very religious lady and she is very nice. Let's leave the judging to the man upstairs, OK??
Anonymous

United States

#92 May 6, 2012
GrannyT wrote:
To keepitreal: I am quite sure I know who you are refering to. She is NOT in a leadership role. She is on the Dream Team and helps in many ways. No they are NOT married and have a daughter in the 3rd grade. As far as I know she never divorced her first husband. I do not know anything about the father of her daughter. I just see him at church every Sunday. I know she is a very religious lady and she is very nice. Let's leave the judging to the man upstairs, OK??
So, she openly lives in an adulterous relationship, and that is the example she is parading, and is allowed to provide.
Wow

Portland, TN

#93 May 6, 2012
Questions wrote:
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I am NOT the one that wrote the orginal message. I do come to your church every Sunday and bring my family. I am just pointing out that since this subject has been brought up a few times in the thread that it needs to be addressed. Sorry if you misunderstood.
Not a problem. I understood just fine and I still stand by what I said. If you think it needs to be addressed , the message applies to you as well. Step up and talk to the leaders, you go there so you should know who to talk to since you are concerned.
GrannyT

Portland, TN

#94 May 7, 2012
Wow wrote:
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Do not be hesitate to ask these questions to the church. All of the Dream team members can answer most questions and will be willing to find the answers if they are not known to them. The Pastor and Campus Pastor are very approachable. Also, go to the Generation Church page on facebook, post questions there or get the email from that page and send your questions that way!! The only silly question is the one not asked!!!
You seem to be on this group alot so why can't you answer our questions here or address our concerns??
GrannyT

Portland, TN

#95 May 7, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
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So, she openly lives in an adulterous relationship, and that is the example she is parading, and is allowed to provide.
Is your slate clean?????? Do you attend this church?? Bet NOT!!
Anonymous

Nashville, TN

#96 May 7, 2012
GrannyT wrote:
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Is your slate clean?????? Do you attend this church?? Bet NOT!!
My slate has been researched and deemed acceptably clean enough to acquire and maintain not only a public position in Sumner County, but also clean enough to teach and guide children in a conservative religious environment.

You are correct in that I do not attend your "church", and I won't. I'm more than happy and secure where I attend, where the focus is on saving souls.

You never truly know what goes on in someone's private life, and I realize that, but when you have someone who is living very publicly in disagreement with God's commands, and you allow them to serve as an example to your children and your flock, that doesn't sit well with me. Just consider that, will you? Keep going and growing, and bring others to God for crying out loud, just do it Biblically and soundly with proper guidance.
MsDeb

Portland, TN

#97 May 8, 2012
For those that like to "stir" the pot..just make sure you have a tight grip on the handle!!!
Questions

Portland, TN

#98 May 9, 2012
GrannyT wrote:
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You seem to be on this group alot so why can't you answer our questions here or address our concerns??
I agree!! But try not to talk down to members of your church. Not everyone replying on this thread is bashing Generation Church!
MsDeb

Portland, TN

#99 May 9, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
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My slate has been researched and deemed acceptably clean enough to acquire and maintain not only a public position in Sumner County, but also clean enough to teach and guide children in a conservative religious environment.
You are correct in that I do not attend your "church", and I won't. I'm more than happy and secure where I attend, where the focus is on saving souls.
You never truly know what goes on in someone's private life, and I realize that, but when you have someone who is living very publicly in disagreement with God's commands, and you allow them to serve as an example to your children and your flock, that doesn't sit well with me. Just consider that, will you? Keep going and growing, and bring others to God for crying out loud, just do it Biblically and soundly with proper guidance.
So sinners shouldn't be allowed in church?? Just the "good" people and the ones that have already been saved....wow.
Our "church" is focused entirely on saving souls but to do that we have to welcome the sinners in!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous

Nashville, TN

#100 May 9, 2012
MsDeb wrote:
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So sinners shouldn't be allowed in church?? Just the "good" people and the ones that have already been saved....wow.
Our "church" is focused entirely on saving souls but to do that we have to welcome the sinners in!!!!!!!!!
Sinners should absolutely be welcomed in church. Welcomed with open arms and taught the word. If you allow someone who openly and without shame lives a sinful life to take on a leadership or working role...that's the problem. Take them in, teach them, guide them to repentance and change, and THEN let them serve the flock.

And like I mentioned somewhere above, I know not everyone is perfect (me), and all of us are sinners (me). The key is recognizing those wrongs and making them right as best we can, NOT continuing them, and especially not openly living in the wrong while trying to teach others to live in the right.(Do what I say, not as I do.) It's about saving souls, remember?

As I also mentioned above, keep going and growing while keeping in mind your responsibility of leading the many souls who attend down the right path.

Wow

Portland, TN

#101 May 10, 2012
GrannyT wrote:
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You seem to be on this group alot so why can't you answer our questions here or address our concerns??
I have, hence the directions to the church website. I have also not accused anyone of bashing the church. I merely pointed out the obvious: If you have concerns and you go to this church, then you know who the leaders are and you should talk to them. If you do not attend this church and have questions,then go to the website and email one of the leaders your questions.Generation Church | Portland, TN
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