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Karla, your cousin was out of control. I was there that day and he was not in any way shape or form acting normal. He was erxtremely combative, he was throwing stuff around, throwing merchandise of the shelf, he assaulted more than one person and he striped almost nude. I called 911 on him because the people around were scared, myself included. By the time the officers arrived he had calmed down and the police used excessive force on him. He was mouthy but he was not fighting them. He was dripping wet (Im assuming it was sweat) and he was tazed at least 3 times. He was calm when he was in the patrol car and for some reason the police car turned the wrong way. It went south instead of north where the police station and hospital is. What happened on the corner or 53 and Cross only your cousin and the officers involved know. I think its sad that I witnessed this mans few remaining minutes alive and I did nothing to help other than call the people that contributed to his death. Im sorry for your loss and I pray for his soul. I didnt know the man, Im just telling you what I witnessed. I personally believe I witnessed a murder. <quoted text>
If the cops tazed him 3 times I'm sure they were in fear of their own lives. There
wasn't very many cops and they didn't want to shoot their loud guns at him because they didn't want to upset any elderly citizens. But those tazers were the answer to protect them from this scarey person. And when he broke there cop car and radar unit,then that was the straw that broke the camel smokers back.We all know these cops were well trained because it showed by the way they all simultaneously tazed him and showed no mercy even though they feared for their own lives.They were professionals for sure.They got him good.
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proud to be an American wrote:
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I dont know i was being completely sarcastic with my comment cops have never made me feel safe. Thats why i do not call them. I do not trust them. I question the very reason they decided to joib law enforcement to begin
But I was serious.What is a cops real job supposed to be?What is he hired for ,what are they getting paid to do or supposed to be doing?
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<quoted text>Mark dobbs was there, I saw him in a truck decked out with red and blue white lights. I saw him walking up to the City patrol car. I rememberthis because I thought it was odd that the SHeriff was there during a city stop. Made me wonder.
If Dobbs was there ,he was looking for a place to put his wiener.He don't joke around ,or maybe he was watching from afar to see how to properly taze and arrest a wildman. He takes his wiener out to the hospital often and gets a nurse to inspect it.Taxpayers are glad he is spending their money well.
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This man didn't has a bull dog he lived behind some of my family back in feb. He was in his yard with a water hose taking a bath singing at the top of his lungs! He was on many drugs and it was not police fault they responded to a call and acted as needed he was a mess just earlier that day he lost it at his home so no he is not a victim by any means
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#175
Jul 16, 2012
 
I have a little activity for those that think a poor innocent man was murdered because officers went south instead of north. Go to google maps, mapquest, or whatever website you use and get the quickest route from Casey's south to the hospital (this may be a difficult task for some). It just goes to show most everyone on here is talking straight out their asses.

Its seems more plausible that the crazy drug induced man died because of drugs not from being beaten and tased to death by officers.
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#176
Jul 16, 2012
 
Remmy wrote:
I have a little activity for those that think a poor innocent man was murdered because officers went south instead of north. Go to google maps, mapquest, or whatever website you use and get the quickest route from Casey's south to the hospital (this may be a difficult task for some). It just goes to show most everyone on here is talking straight out their asses.
Its seems more plausible that the crazy drug induced man died because of drugs not from being beaten and tased to death by officers.
Did you just say he didn't die from being tased to death by officers?
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Jul 17, 2012
 
Know the trith wrote:
This man didn't has a bull dog he lived behind some of my family back in feb. He was in his yard with a water hose taking a bath singing at the top of his lungs! He was on many drugs and it was not police fault they responded to a call and acted as needed he was a mess just earlier that day he lost it at his home so no he is not a victim by any means
. Some ppl I swear
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#178
Jul 17, 2012
 
Remmy wrote:
I have a little activity for those that think a poor innocent man was murdered because officers went south instead of north. Go to google maps, mapquest, or whatever website you use and get the quickest route from Casey's south to the hospital (this may be a difficult task for some). It just goes to show most everyone on here is talking straight out their asses.
Its seems more plausible that the crazy drug induced man died because of drugs not from being beaten and tased to death by officers.
This has already been covered on here. I said it was faster to go south than north. You should read more.
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#179
Jul 17, 2012
 
Well I think if I were you I wouldn't run my mouth when you don't know what really happened. And just like most people on here is what you being like.
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<quoted text>On this forum, I think if I were you I would change my user name. I'm just like most what?
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Well first thing you need to learn grammar. Secondly they do the job cause people like you don't want to (notice job is correctly spelled). Your only proud to be an American because you are probably one of the people mooching off America.
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I dont know i was being completely sarcastic with my comment cops have never made me feel safe. Thats why i do not call them. I do not trust them. I question the very reason they decided to joib law enforcement to begin
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Jul 17, 2012
 
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Well I think if I were you I wouldn't run my mouth when you don't know what really happened. And just like most people on here is what you being like.
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Jul 17, 2012
 
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Well first thing you need to learn grammar. Secondly they do the job cause people like you don't want to (notice job is correctly spelled). Your only proud to be an American because you are probably one of the people mooching off America.
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Here I go again. Sorry, HaHaHa. Ya Right, you need to learn more than grammar. I know punctuation changes, but I still think we should seperate some things with a comma. Also, you should have said you're instead of your in the last sentence. Even though I taught school and was an English tutor in college, it bugs me for people on here to act like this is school.
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AND one reason, this bugs me is we all make mistakes. Can you find mine?
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Jul 17, 2012
 
A hint: I mispelled a word.
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Jul 18, 2012
 
questions wrote:
A hint: I mispelled a word.
SEPaRATE!
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<quoted text>If the cops tazed him 3 times I'm sure they were in fear of their own lives. There
wasn't very many cops and they didn't want to shoot their loud guns at him because they didn't want to upset any elderly citizens. But those tazers were the answer to protect them from this scarey person. And when he broke there cop car and radar unit,then that was the straw that broke the camel smokers back.We all know these cops were well trained because it showed by the way they all simultaneously tazed him and showed no mercy even though they feared for their own lives.They were professionals for sure.They got him good.
Tazing is good. If you have a choice have the cops taz you. Batons, mace and physical restraints have killed a lot more people and hurt far longer.

Tazers are the most human force that has been developed so far...
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<quoted text>Did you just say he didn't die from being tased to death by officers?
If he didn't I am....
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#188
Jul 18, 2012
 
An important question to consider regarding the use of a taser is whether he was shot with probes or drive stunned. There's a pretty big difference. A drive stun is where the taser is applied directly to the skin. It has no neuromuscular interference and 0% chance of affecting the heart. It's for pain compliance.

If he was just simply drive stunned then it did not play a role in his death other than adding to his discomfort.
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An important question to consider regarding the use of a taser is whether he was shot with probes or drive stunned. There's a pretty big difference. A drive stun is where the taser is applied directly to the skin. It has no neuromuscular interference and 0% chance of affecting the heart. It's for pain compliance.

If he was just simply drive stunned then it did not play a role in his death other than adding to his discomfort.
Nope there is no difference between the probe and drive stun. They both work the same way.
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Nope there is no difference between the probe and drive stun. They both work the same way.
Here's drive stun defined by wiki: where the Taser is held against the target without firing the projectiles, and is intended to cause pain without incapacitating the target.

Congrats, you are 100% WRONG. They work in entirely different ways. To avoid looking like dumbass in the future just look it up beforehand. The world wide web is at your fingertips.

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