Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

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Joe Fortuna wrote:
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Do you think our bodies were design to sit in front of a computer, drive a car, go in to space, eat meat?
Stop beating around the bush.

Do you think our bodies were designed to have anal sex -- yes, or no?
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This is an incredibly interesting study that enlightens both evolutionary theory and human nature. At the same time it exposes the harshest distinction between biological parents and step parents. A gay union ALWAYS involves a step parent when a child is present.;
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scien...
"The so-called “Cinderella Effect” is one of the foundational empirical findings in evolutionary psychology. Martin Daly and the late Margo Wilson, the two Deans of Modern Evolutionary Psychology, discovered, in their analysis of homicide data from Canada and Detroit, that stepchildren, those who live with a stepparent (usually, a stepfather), are anywhere from 40 to 100 times as likely to be murdered or maimed as those who live with two biological parents in the household."
I'm not sure what an article on straight guys killing their girlfriends children has to do with a federal judge ruling that CA SSM ban is unconstitutional??!!

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I'm guessing by your response that you know divorces causes the most.
Of course, the one that denys more children their natural families would seem to be more of a serious situation.
Do you think a situation that affects 50 people is just as serious as one that affect 100,000?
If so, I have a feeling the WHO would disagree with you.
Of course not.
Most always.
So now you are saying that a small group hurting children is okay because they are not the large group hurting children.
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Stop beating around the bush.
Do you think our bodies were designed to have anal sex -- yes, or no?
If God had intended men to have anal sex he would have put a hole between their legs!!

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The other great thing about the article on gay men's improved health after marriage, no one has ever shown any harm to heterosexuals as a result of marriage equality for same-sex couples, now we can show the benefit, lower health care cost!!
The fact that gay unions have NEVER established themselves in ANY culture, found acceptance and spread while marriage is present in EVERY culture is a incredibly profound message from history.

In 1987 the first country legalized gay marriage. Their is only now long-term studies examining the effect. To scientifically say gay 'marriages' are positive or negative is therefore impossible.

To impose gay unions on the foundational relationship of marriage carelessly and callously if simply foolish selfishness.

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Wow, what an article, sounds like the people you should be angry at are heterosexual men who divorce and remarry a spouse who already has children.
You lose intellectual validity by twisting/ignoring the information.

The 'Cinderella affect' addresses the fact that children in ANY setting apart from biological parents are at risk for their very lives!

The study I sited simply noted that there may be other factors at play in why step-children are at risk.
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The fact that gay unions have NEVER established themselves in ANY culture, found acceptance and spread while marriage is present in EVERY culture is a incredibly profound message from history.
In 1987 the first country legalized gay marriage. Their is only now long-term studies examining the effect. To scientifically say gay 'marriages' are positive or negative is therefore impossible.
To impose gay unions on the foundational relationship of marriage carelessly and callously if simply foolish selfishness.
You know what they say about opinions..........
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This is an incredibly interesting study that enlightens both evolutionary theory and human nature. At the same time it exposes the harshest distinction between biological parents and step parents. A gay union ALWAYS involves a step parent when a child is present.;
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scien...
"The so-called “Cinderella Effect” is one of the foundational empirical findings in evolutionary psychology. Martin Daly and the late Margo Wilson, the two Deans of Modern Evolutionary Psychology, discovered, in their analysis of homicide data from Canada and Detroit, that stepchildren, those who live with a stepparent (usually, a stepfather), are anywhere from 40 to 100 times as likely to be murdered or maimed as those who live with two biological parents in the household."
Talk about comparing "apples" to "winnebagos"!

You also left out this part of the article:

"They point out, and empirically demonstrate with a small Swedish sample, that men who become stepfathers, by marrying women who already have children from previous unions with other men, are more likely to be criminal and violent to begin with. And Temrin et al. argue that their greater tendency toward criminality and violence, not their genetic unrelatedness, is the reason they are more likely to kill and injure their stepchildren.

"Once again, in retrospect, this makes perfect sense. Divorced women with children are on average older, so they have lower mate value than younger women without children. Given choice, and all else equal, all men would prefer to marry younger women without children rather than older women with children with other men. The logic of assortative mating would suggest that women with lower mate value are more likely to mate with men with lower mate value. And, as I explain in an earlier post, men with lower mate value are more likely to be criminal and violent."

Did you even read the article?

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The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce: A 25 Year Landmark Study
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Twenty-five years ago, when the impact of divorce on children was not well understood, Wallerstein began what has now become the largest study on the subject, and this audiobook, which McIntire reads with compassion and warmth, presents the psychologist's startling findings. By tracking approximately 100 children as they forge their lives as adults, she has found that contrary to the popular belief that kids would bounce back after the initial pain of their parents' split, children of divorce often continue to suffer well into adulthood. Their pain plays out in their relationships, their work lives and their confidence about parenting themselves. Wallerstein argues that although the situation is dire, there is hope to be found at the end of good counseling and healing. Based on the Hyperion hardcover (Forecasts, July 17, 2000).
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Stop beating around the bush.
Do you think our bodies were designed to have anal sex -- yes, or no?

Who told you what each body part was design for?
Are hands designed to masturbate?
Ears designed to hold eye glass frames, or noses to hold up glasses? Were breast designed for sex?
How about you, ever had oral sex?
The list is so long it would appear design is irrelevant, which was my point.

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http://www.marriage-success-secrets.com/stati...

18 Shocking Statistics About
Children and Divorce

I’ve compiled these statistics about children and divorce for the “I’ll believe it when I see it” type of people who don’t accept anything as true unless it’s from a credible source or it’s been PROVEN in a convincing study.
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Other than saying I 'sound intelligent', a reasoned response would address that, right?
A 12 year old child might sound intelligent in his/her usage of wording when explaining heart surgery but might not be able to successfully point out where your pancreas is at.

Hope that helps dolt.

LOL!!!

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http://www.sciencemag.org/content/252/5011/13...

National, longitudinal surveys from Great Britain and the United States were used to investigate the effects of divorce on children. In both studies, a subsample of children who were in two-parent families during the initial interview (at age 7 in the British data and at ages 7 to 11 in the U.S. data) were followed through the next interview (at age 11 and ages 11 to 16, respectively). At both time points in the British data, parents and teachers independently rated the children's behavior problems, and the children were given reading and mathematics achievement tests. At both time points in the U.S. data, parents rated the children's behavior problems. Children whose parents divorced or separated between the two time points were compared to children whose families remained intact. For boys, the apparent effect of separation or divorce on behavior problems and achievement at the later time point was sharply reduced by considering behavior problems, achievement levels, and family difficulties that were present at the earlier time point, before any of the families had broken up. For girls, the reduction in the apparent effect of divorce occurred to a lesser but still noticeable extent once preexisting conditions were considered.
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http://www.marriage-success-se crets.com/statistics-about-chi ldren-and-divorce.html
18 Shocking Statistics About
Children and Divorce
I’ve compiled these statistics about children and divorce for the “I’ll believe it when I see it” type of people who don’t accept anything as true unless it’s from a credible source or it’s been PROVEN in a convincing study.
With all the articles you've posted today I can tell you one thing, you have convinced me that straight people should not be allowed to marry!!
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Simple solution to this whole mess. Let all the same sex people go and live on an island, every last one of them. Let them marry all they want and keep to themselves. That way they can live and let live there....and we can live and let live on the mainland. There will be no more rediculous protests or parades or any crap like that. After a short while they will be extinct. Done deal......
Right.

But then what do we do with dumbshits like you???

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You lose intellectual validity by twisting/ignoring the information.
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

HA HA HA HA-HA!!!!!

Boy! I sure did need that laugh!!!!

You! Accusing someone of twisting/ignoring the info....

Oh, my intellectual validity challenged person...
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So now you are saying that a small group hurting children is okay because they are not the large group hurting children.
Could you explain what part of my post led you to think thats what I was saying?
In case you have forgot, we were talking about which is more serious, not what is OK.
No I'm saying it seems to be more of a serious situation when the numbers are so much greater in one group than the other.
So tell me if you had a choice, between affecting 100,000 negatively or 50, which would you think would be a better choice?
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Prof Marvel wrote:
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Stop beating around the bush.
Do you think our bodies were designed to have anal sex -- yes, or no?
Do you think our bodies were designed to skateboard?
Drive a car?
Kiss?
Go down on your wife?
Wear clothes?
Fit a record number into a phonebooth?
Etc...etc...

You're STILL an idiot in need of schooling.

LOL!!!!
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The fact that gay unions have NEVER established themselves in ANY culture, found acceptance and spread while marriage is present in EVERY culture is a incredibly profound message from history.
In 1987 the first country legalized gay marriage. Their is only now long-term studies examining the effect. To scientifically say gay 'marriages' are positive or negative is therefore impossible.
To impose gay unions on the foundational relationship of marriage carelessly and callously if simply foolish selfishness.
We are talking about less than 6% of a population, there isn't much to spread.
Yes it is, its a message that suggests that there were a lot of self indulging cultures. Live the way I do, are suffer the conqueinces.
So in order to have a chance at understanding how homosexuality affects cultures, wouldn't you think by letting a small precentage of homosexuals to marry a good chance at finding out how it will affect a culture?
Wouldn't you think 2% of the 6% of the population a small percentage?
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With all the articles you've posted today I can tell you one thing, you have convinced me that straight people should not be allowed to marry!!
And did you notice that, once again, we have someone who's argument against marriage equality is that "heterosexual divorce is bad"?

What a fucktard!

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