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“It's not you / it's them?”
Since: Jun 11
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Strong Proud Conservative wrote: <quoted text>
It forces the institutions to include it in their insurance when it clearly violates their beliefs. It was the same issue with the school. They're my kids, they tried to force them to take a dance class despite the fact it violated their religious belifs. It's the same thing. It figures / Crime Dog don't dance. I would have guessed you'd be in some fringy / uptight / controlling religion. From your posts here / from your serious need for a stickadectomy / from your need to impose your uptight POVs on others here / you virtually had to be. I'd also guess from your posts / you now have / previosuly had alcohol abuse issues. Your kids have my sympathy / to have you as a parent. If they havent graduated yet / you should strongly consider taking them out of public school / home schooling them. There could still be a chance / they might have developed some social skills. If you don't get them out of public school / they might not end up being as socially bent as you are. The most out of control / wildest young adults I've ever known / grew up in a freakishly controlling / uber uptight home. You sure showed that school / didn't you? LOL For their sake / hope your kids forgive you some day.
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Strong Proud Conservative
Cape Girardeau, MO
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Republican FreeDUMB wrote: <quoted text>
SPC = David Koresh David Koresh messed around with numerous women. I'm completely faithful to my wife. You have to be nowadays with all the diseases out there.
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Roy Wulff
Saint Charles, MO
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Strong Proud Conservative wrote: <quoted text>
You didn't read the whole thing. We don't believe in dancing unless it is with our own spouse in the privacy of our own home. The reason for that is that it promotes lust and can lead to premarital sex which then leads to unwanted pregnancies. We believe that the best way to prevent unwanted pregnancies is to not perform the act that leads to them to begin with. Dancing with my wife in my home is completely different. It doesn't matter if our bodies are rubbing up against each other promotig desire because we're married and the sex is perfectly justified. I need to bed down my curiosity a bit. Do you believe in hugging? If ya do, what is the difference other than how long it goes?
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Strong Proud Conservative
Cape Girardeau, MO
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Roy Wulff wrote: <quoted text>I need to bed down my curiosity a bit. Do you believe in hugging? If ya do, what is the difference other than how long it goes? Only my wife.
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Roy Wulff
Saint Charles, MO
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Strong Proud Conservative wrote: <quoted text>
David Koresh messed around with numerous women. I'm completely faithful to my wife. You have to be nowadays with all the diseases out there. You aren't saying that if it weren't for STDs it would be ok to mess around as you put it? Boy, that sure must be a misspoken turn of phrase. Then to. If you look at your response another way you are saying the difference between you and Koresh is the number of women he fooled around with. I doubt you really mean that but it is a hoot of a response.
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Roy Wulff
Saint Charles, MO
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Strong Proud Conservative wrote: <quoted text>
Only my wife. So you don't allow your children to hug other children or adults? You don't hug family members? Your old grandad or your mom or pop?
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Strong Proud Conservative
Cape Girardeau, MO
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Roy Wulff wrote: <quoted text>You aren't saying that if it weren't for STDs it would be ok to mess around as you put it? Boy, that sure must be a misspoken turn of phrase. Then to. If you look at your response another way you are saying the difference between you and Koresh is the number of women he fooled around with.
I doubt you really mean that but it is a hoot of a response. No I'm not, but it is much better to get married and remain faithful with all the diseases that are out there. That is the ONLY method of safe sex that has proven to work. That's basically what marriage is for, for procreation and to express your love and not have to worry about getting an STD as long as both are faithful to each other. And before you pervert that remark, marriage in the Bible is only for a man to a woman, not to a person of the same sex.
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Strong Proud Conservative
Cape Girardeau, MO
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Roy Wulff wrote: <quoted text>So you don't allow your children to hug other children or adults? You don't hug family members? Your old grandad or your mom or pop? Now you're being perverted.
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Republican FreeDUMB
Saint Louis, MO
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Strong Proud Conservative wrote: <quoted text>
Now you're being perverted. ?????? SPC = putting the Fun in Religious FUNdamental Extremist!
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Republican FreeDUMB
Saint Louis, MO
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Roy Wulff wrote: <quoted text>You aren't saying that if it weren't for STDs it would be ok to mess around as you put it? Boy, that sure must be a misspoken turn of phrase. Then to. If you look at your response another way you are saying the difference between you and Koresh is the number of women he fooled around with.
I doubt you really mean that but it is a hoot of a response. Good One Mr Wolf...Game Point!
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Since: Feb 11
Mountain Grove, MO
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http://www.tnr.com/print/article/politics/100... Madison, Wisconsin, where the Diocese itself now provides coverage under Wisconsin law. I agree with the Bishops that there are cases when the religious freedom of an employer trumps that of an employee. For example, when I was a secretary at the Sacred Heart Rectory, I wouldn’t expect my health care plan to include prescription contraception because I worked for the church. Under Obama's regulation, religious institutions, like the church I grew up in, are exempt. Synagogues and other houses of worship do not have to provide contraception. Period. But when Notre Dame is the single largest employer in South Bend, Indiana, with Saint Joseph Regional Medical Center not far behind, how could we say,“Sorry, you should move if you want to have affordable access to these health services.” It is discordant with my Catholic and my American values that a receptionist at the local hospital making around $26,000 a year should have to shell out nearly $600 for birth control or cede control to her employer over when to start a family, when she is already paying in to her health care plan. The new agreement would take this difficult question off the table by allowing the women and men working at these religious affiliated organizations to receive the equal and affordable access through their insurers directly without engaging their employers. It is about time we raise the policy debate in Washington to keep up with complexity of faith, health and family that most Americans already navigate in their daily lives. Most Americans are religious. Fifty-five percent told Gallup that religion is “very important” to them. But these same Americans are also focused on the health of their families and they are, in fact, using birth control. Newt, Mitt, Rick, and all the other gentlemen trying to demagogue this issue would be best served listening to the folks in the pews before launching any more pious screeds. Most of America’s faithful families aren’t under attack from a “war on religion.” I for one don’t feel under attack—except perhaps from a small group of Republican presidential candidates who keep ignoring the voices, values, and lives of women like me. Tara McGuinness is Senior Vice President for the Center for American Progress Action Fund.
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Roy Wulff
Saint Charles, MO
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Strong Proud Conservative wrote: <quoted text>
No I'm not, but it is much better to get married and remain faithful with all the diseases that are out there. That is the ONLY method of safe sex that has proven to work. That's basically what marriage is for, for procreation and to express your love and not have to worry about getting an STD as long as both are faithful to each other. And before you pervert that remark, marriage in the Bible is only for a man to a woman, not to a person of the same sex. You are a flippant young man aren't you. I am only asking questions. I have not posted anything that was perverted. You are making false claims against another. What is perverted about a hug? I am asking you if you if your denomination allows hugging between adults, adults and children and between children. If you see something perverted in that then I am truly sorry of you son.
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Roy Wulff
Saint Charles, MO
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Republican FreeDUMB wrote: <quoted text>
Good One Mr Wolf...Game Point! I don't think he intended to say it like he did. Put his foot right in his mouth on that one though.
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3am
Leawood, KS
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Roy Wulff
Saint Charles, MO
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1Watt Hermit wrote: http://www.tnr.com/print/artic le/politics/100671/contracepti on-birth-control-Obama-religio n
Madison, Wisconsin, where the Diocese itself now provides coverage under Wisconsin law.
I agree with the Bishops that there are cases when the religious freedom of an employer trumps that of an employee. For example, when I was a secretary at the Sacred Heart Rectory, I wouldn’t expect my health care plan to include prescription contraception because I worked for the church. Under Obama's regulation, religious institutions, like the church I grew up in, are exempt. Synagogues and other houses of worship do not have to provide contraception. Period.
But when Notre Dame is the single largest employer in South Bend, Indiana, with Saint Joseph Regional Medical Center not far behind, how could we say,“Sorry, you should move if you want to have affordable access to these health services.” It is discordant with my Catholic and my American values that a receptionist at the local hospital making around $26,000 a year should have to shell out nearly $600 for birth control or cede control to her employer over when to start a family, when she is already paying in to her health care plan. The new agreement would take this difficult question off the table by allowing the women and men working at these religious affiliated organizations to receive the equal and affordable access through their insurers directly without engaging their employers.
It is about time we raise the policy debate in Washington to keep up with complexity of faith, health and family that most Americans already navigate in their daily lives. Most Americans are religious. Fifty-five percent told Gallup that religion is “very important” to them. But these same Americans are also focused on the health of their families and they are, in fact, using birth control. Newt, Mitt, Rick, and all the other gentlemen trying to demagogue this issue would be best served listening to the folks in the pews before launching any more pious screeds. Most of America’s faithful families aren’t under attack from a “war on religion.” I for one don’t feel under attack—except perhaps from a small group of Republican presidential candidates who keep ignoring the voices, values, and lives of women like me.
Tara McGuinness is Senior Vice President for the Center for American Progress Action Fund. So I am confused on this issue more than most. Did Obama's health care plan original mandate Religious organizations to provide, lets call it family planning. Or did it exempt thes organizations and now they want it. I have not followed this in the news. Even though it has been the talk for a bit.
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DumbAssLazyLiber als
Willow Springs, MO
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ACORN-LINKED GROUP RAISING FUNDS FOR CALIFORNIA 'OCCUPY' PROTEST A re-branded ACORN branch in California is raising money to help fund an upcoming "Occupy" protest in Sacramento, FoxNews.com has learned. The Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment sent out letters this month pleading for contributions of up to $20,000 for buses, food, printing, sound and other supplies for an upcoming event dubbed "Occupy the Capitol." “Thousands of us are arriving in Sacramento on March 5 to Occupy the Capitol with our demand that the 1 percent pay for jobs, education, essential services, and a better future,” reads a copy of the letter obtained by FoxNews.com .“We need your activists and staff to join us.…We also urgently need funding.” The letter, which was posted on the California Federation of Teachers' website, lists a tiered system for donors. To be a “Working Class Hero,” donors must give $20,000, or enough to "rent 20 buses" for the protests. A gift of $5,000 earns an "Occupy Ally” designation. Critics said the fundraising is yet more evidence linking the remnants of ACORN, a national organization that disbanded after a series of scandals, to the national "Occupy" movement. Like ACORN, the new group, a 501(c)3 non-profit, could be using federal funds for political ends, said Dan Epstein, executive director for Cause of Action, a Washington-based watchdog group. “We have seen that ACCE has lobbied for federal funding, thus raising a serious concern: If they are acting as a fiscal sponsor for the 'Occupy' movement, are they using federal dollars for the same political ends,” Epstein said. Assets from the now defunct ACORN were transferred to ACCE in March 2010. The ACCE took ACORN's database of California supporters and computer equipment used by former employees hired by the new organization. In October, FoxNews.com reported that New York Communities for Change, the successor to ACORN in New York, was aligned with the "Occupy Wall Street" protests last fall. The group hired nearly 100 former staff from the defunct ACORN branch and paid them up to $100 a day to attend the demonstrations. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/13/acorn-li...
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Roy Wulff
Saint Charles, MO
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Strong Proud Conservative wrote: <quoted text>
Now you're being perverted. This here is a false statement. I am not being perverted. You may perceive it as perversion cause of yor strict believes. I just am curious about thos ebeliefs. I guess bearing false witness issn't among them beliefs. I will tell you this much. You and your wife have every right to worship how you choose. I don't much agree with that kind of restrictive and dogmatic practices, but you probably wouldn't agree with mine. I am not one to read the Bible at its absolute face value. To many things in there are left to interpretation.
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Strong Proud Conservative
Cape Girardeau, MO
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Roy Wulff wrote: <quoted text>You are a flippant young man aren't you. I am only asking questions. I have not posted anything that was perverted. You are making false claims against another.
What is perverted about a hug? I am asking you if you if your denomination allows hugging between adults, adults and children and between children. If you see something perverted in that then I am truly sorry of you son. With the way the laws are nowadays are you kidding? You can't even look at somebody without being accused of sexual harassment or sexual abuse.
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Strong Proud Conservative
Cape Girardeau, MO
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Roy Wulff wrote: <quoted text>So I am confused on this issue more than most. Did Obama's health care plan original mandate Religious organizations to provide, lets call it family planning. Or did it exempt thes organizations and now they want it. I have not followed this in the news. Even though it has been the talk for a bit. It demanded that they provide it.
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Roy Wulff
Saint Charles, MO
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Strong Proud Conservative wrote: <quoted text>
No I'm not, but it is much better to get married and remain faithful with all the diseases that are out there. That is the ONLY method of safe sex that has proven to work. That's basically what marriage is for, for procreation and to express your love and not have to worry about getting an STD as long as both are faithful to each other. And before you pervert that remark, marriage in the Bible is only for a man to a woman, not to a person of the same sex. I didn't fugure ya did, but you sure stepped in it with that one. I agree that marriage, fiedllity and devotion are wonderfull things. I never considered fear of disease to be the reason to get married or stay faithful. You got some unusual notions. Course that only works if both parties abide. Marriage is a ceromony and exsited long befor the Bible or Christianity. Numerous iterations have been tried through out history. I never seen Christian as being so week that it couldn't survive change. Marriage doesn't even have to involve two people that love each other. Sometimes it hasn't involved two people that wanted to be married. In some cultures it has been a man and several women including in the Bible. Probably too heterosexual for you I guess. There are even places in the world where one woman was married to several men. There you go accusing me of something I aint done and wasn't going to do. False witness again. You are just sinnin like the wind today. If you ever find your self talking about how you don't lie, remember your posts to old Roy Wulff and mind your tongue.
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