Mississippi judge jails attorney for not reciting Pledge of Allegiance

Full story: Santa Cruz Sentinel

A Mississippi judge jailed a lawyer for several hours for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, ordering the attorney to "purge himself" of contempt by standing and repeating the oath like the rest of the courtroom.

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eric

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thank you for the information on the Internet, I will research further.
However, I do disagree with secular humanism equating to a religion or government. Government is supposed to be secular by nature. Government is supposed to be concerned with it's people and run by the will of it's people. Religion wants to dominate government so a very narrow worldview is applied as a blanket to all people regardless of their personal beliefs. The puritans were kicked out of England because their religion clashed with the state religion, they were also subsequently not welcomed to Holland because of their propensity to proselytize their zany beliefs. They ended up in what was to be called America where religious freedom for Puritans, and no one else was the rule of law. As the colonies grew, it became obvious that this would not work. Then those really smart cats the declared our independence came together and based our founding on past experience. The puritans were removed from their home country because of state religion, and they in turn burned hundreds of people at the stake for not falling into line with their religion. Any reasonable person would have seen that secularism was the only way for a government to function with a full capacity for freedom.
And of course government money comes with strings attached, just look at how responsible the congress people are with it! YOu can thank them for the strings and if you think it would be any different at state level, that would be delusional. A one million dollar grant with no stipulations from the federal government for, say schools for instance, would hit the state legislature and turn into a 50,000.00 dollar grant to be split amongst all schools in the state after the legislature got done chopping it up for their own interests.

Now the tyranny of religion in reference to the alcohol consumption prohibition is remnant of the original prohibition laws that mississippi never voted of the books because of all the god fearing religious nuts who think its a sin to have a drink. Every time a petition starts for removing these laws from the books, as i've seen where i live, the person loses business, status, and is scorned by the community for trying to get these nonsense laws erased off the books and let the economy of their areas be boosted rather than neighboring counties or states receiving the benefits. This is also another example of religious hypocrisy, because they will publicly denounce removing these laws and then take a ride to the nearest wet county for their own fix. YOu cant blame the federal government for Mississippi consistently voting against its best interests because they seem to think its a pious thing to do.
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eric wrote:
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thank you for the information on the Internet, I will research further.
However, I do disagree with secular humanism equating to a religion or government. Government is supposed to be secular by nature. Government is supposed to be concerned with it's people and run by the will of it's people. Religion wants to dominate government so a very narrow worldview is applied as a blanket to all people regardless of their personal beliefs. The puritans were kicked out of England because their religion clashed with the state religion, they were also subsequently not welcomed to Holland because of their propensity to proselytize their zany beliefs. They ended up in what was to be called America where religious freedom for Puritans, and no one else was the rule of law. As the colonies grew, it became obvious that this would not work. Then those really smart cats the declared our independence came together and based our founding on past experience. The puritans were removed from their home country because of state religion, and they in turn burned hundreds of people at the stake for not falling into line with their religion. Any reasonable person would have seen that secularism was the only way for a government to function with a full capacity for freedom.
Secular humanism is more that a government being secular. Our Government is a democratic republic not a pure democracy. The Senate reps were appointed by the state legislators not the voter. When states could not do their jobs the amended the Constitution to give the power to the voter. This fundamentally changed our whole system to a buy a seat system and buy a law where lobbyists over ride the public. Many Americans believe charity is a personal choice not a government mandate so that is the forced humanism religion. It is the local tyranny of the community has corrupted our freedoms and wider government infringement on liberties. Read
"Democracy in America" by Tocqueville. make sure it is not the abridged version taught in school.
eric

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Sep 10, 2012
 
anon wrote:
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Secular humanism is more that a government being secular. Our Government is a democratic republic not a pure democracy. The Senate reps were appointed by the state legislators not the voter. When states could not do their jobs the amended the Constitution to give the power to the voter. This fundamentally changed our whole system to a buy a seat system and buy a law where lobbyists over ride the public. Many Americans believe charity is a personal choice not a government mandate so that is the forced humanism religion. It is the local tyranny of the community has corrupted our freedoms and wider government infringement on liberties. Read
"Democracy in America" by Tocqueville. make sure it is not the abridged version taught in school.
I will find it and read it.

I still maintain that secular humanism and secular governance is not the same thing. Secular humanism refers to people who are "good without a god" secular government means religious, supernatural thought does not enter into the making of laws. It means that no religion shall be placed above another belief system in the making of those laws. Humanism is not a religion, it is a philosophy that the humans right here are far more important than whatever we believe is out there in the ether. Charity most certainly should be a personal choice and its one that i hope many people make daily. As much as it may invalidate my opinion in some circles i am speaking as someone who does have a need for government assistance. I am speaking as someone who is working very hard to NOT need government assistance. I am speaking as someone who lives and breathes these things all day every day. You cant honestly make the argument that the government is tyrannical because it dictates how a state should spend the funds it is given by a federal government (which is its revenue) in the same breath as charity being a government mandate (by which i'm guessing you mean for people like me). You can't dictate how your taxes are spent either. There are lots of things i don't like my taxes going to, but i only complain about the ones that really matter in the long run. Taxes going to food stamps for families, higher education for the less fortunate, schools for our children, housing for low income and elderly people, i do not have an issue with that. Tax money going to churches, wars, tax subsidies on oil producers that are currently putting us over a barrel while making record profits, etc. Those are the things i have a huge problem with. The world was only just beginning to change when President Johnson instituted the Great Society legislation. His motives may have been dubious and mostly political, but good things came out of it. in the 50+ years since the world has changed more and more rapidly, and for the first time in our history, America is the one left behind. People who use tyranny as quickly and easily as most do today wouldn't know what to do with themselves if real tyranny ever came along. The government thinks its a good idea to make sure all its citizens have the basic human necessities of life, and the opportunity to make something of themselves so they can give back as well, that is not in any way tyranny. Thats just the right thing to do.
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Sep 10, 2012
 
I love my Brownings wrote:
Oh yes next time you start inside a business look up and around are they flying a flag in a disrespectful manner (7day resale next to rameys)
the flag there has been in a wad for some time must be F***ing MUSLIMS owning that place AND I also don't go to sonic in collins they use the flag as a decoration
(Guidelines for Displaying the Flag
1. The flag of the United States should be flown daily from sunrise to
sunset in good weather from public buildings, schools, permanent
staffs, and in or near polling places on election days. The flag
may be displayed 24 hours a day on patriotic holidays or if properly
illuminated.
2. The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is bad,
except when an all-weather flag is used.
3. The flag should always be flown on national and state holidays and
on those occasions proclaimed by the President. On Memorial Day,
the flag should be half staffed until noon.
4. The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously. It
should never be dipped to any person nor should it ever be displayed
with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress.
5. The flag should never touch anything beneath it, nor should it ever
be carried flat or horizontally.
6. It should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, drapery, or
decoration, nor for carrying or holding anything.
7. The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored
in such a manner as to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged. It should
never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
8. The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of
a vehicle. When a flag is displayed on a car, the flag's staff
should be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right
fender.
9. The flag or its staff should never be used for advertising purposes
in any manner whatsoever. Nor should any picture, drawing, insignia
or other decoration be placed on or attached to the flag, its staff,
or halyard.
10. The flag should not be embroidered on cushions, handkerchiefs, or
other personal items nor printed on anything designed for temporary
use and discarded. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the
uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, or members of
other patriotic organizations.
11. When the flag is so worn or soiled that it is no longer suitable
for display, it should be destroyed in a dignified manner,
preferably by burning.
Is this flag a god or something?!
Break it down:
I
Pledge
Alllengence
TO the FLAG
????!!!!!
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Sep 10, 2012
 
Fundamental to the concept of secular humanism is the strongly held viewpoint that ideology—be it religious or political—must be thoroughly examined by each individual and not simply accepted or rejected on faith. Along with this, an essential part of secular humanism is a continually adapting search for truth, primarily through science and philosophy. Many Humanists derive their moral codes from a philosophy of utilitarianism, ethical naturalism or evolutionary ethics, and some advocate a science of morality.

This is what the government schools teach contrary to the idea that philosophy is individualistic and not based on science or other chosen philosophies.
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LandSakes wrote:
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Is this flag a god or something?!
Break it down:
I
Pledge
Alllengence
TO the FLAG
????!!!!!
The spirit of the flag is freedom even the freedom to wipe the floor with the flag.

“Simple educated country woman”

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LandSakes wrote:
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Is this flag a god or something?!
Break it down:
I
Pledge
Alllengence
TO the FLAG
????!!!!!
I must be getting old and cranky as it is getting tiring to repeat things to those individuals who lack the capacity to use human thought and do a minimum of research before posting something obnoxious.

It makes one wonder where these individual find the capacity to be able to plug in a complex piece of equipment and then stumble into an online forum.

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html

"The Flag Protection Act of 1989 was struck down by the Supreme Court decision, United States vs. Eichman, decided on June 11, 1990.

While the Code empowers the President of the United States to alter, modify, repeal or prescribe additional rules regarding the Flag, no federal agency has the authority to issue 'official' rulings legally binding on civilians or civilian groups..."
Adolpho Busillo

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eric wrote:
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I will find it and read it.
I still maintain that secular humanism and secular governance is not the same thing. Secular humanism refers to people who are "good without a god" secular government means religious, supernatural thought does not enter into the making of laws. It means that no religion shall be placed above another belief system in the making of those laws. Humanism is not a religion, it is a philosophy that the humans right here are far more important than whatever we believe is out there in the ether. Charity most certainly should be a personal choice and its one that i hope many people make daily. As much as it may invalidate my opinion in some circles i am speaking as someone who does have a need for government assistance. I am speaking as someone who is working very hard to NOT need government assistance. I am speaking as someone who lives and breathes these things all day every day. You cant honestly make the argument that the government is tyrannical because it dictates how a state should spend the funds it is given by a federal government (which is its revenue) in the same breath as charity being a government mandate (by which i'm guessing you mean for people like me). You can't dictate how your taxes are spent either. There are lots of things i don't like my taxes going to, but i only complain about the ones that really matter in the long run. Taxes going to food stamps for families, higher education for the less fortunate, schools for our children, housing for low income and elderly people, i do not have an issue with that. Tax money going to churches, wars, tax subsidies on oil producers that are currently putting us over a barrel while making record profits, etc. Those are the things i have a huge problem with. The world was only just beginning to change when President Johnson instituted the Great Society legislation. His motives may have been dubious and mostly political, but good things came out of it. in the 50+ years since the world has changed more and more rapidly, and for the first time in our history, America is the one left behind. People who use tyranny as quickly and easily as most do today wouldn't know what to do with themselves if real tyranny ever came along. The government thinks its a good idea to make sure all its citizens have the basic human necessities of life, and the opportunity to make something of themselves so they can give back as well, that is not in any way tyranny. Thats just the right thing to do.
Charlie Manson can write better than this try paragraphs freak.
SYS

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Sep 24, 2012
 
System line check

“John 3:16”

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This issue is dead and even the defense attorney wants it to go away. Let it go. Take your issues up on Facebook.
tree hugger

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Sep 25, 2012
 
The_SCOOP wrote:
This issue is dead and even the defense attorney wants it to go away. Let it go. Take your issues up on Facebook.
AMEN
tubby

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#1808
Sep 26, 2012
 
The Petition For The City Of Iuka And The Petition For The Whole Tishomingo County Is In The Tishomingo County News Paper This Week Thursday September 27. 2012 The Petition For The City Of Iuka And The Petition For The Whole Tishomingo County Is On Page 11 In The Tishomingo County News Paper IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SIGN IT
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Sep 27, 2012
 
Tubby you are in the wrong town.
Sheik Yerbouti

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Sep 27, 2012
 
The judge should be removed from the bench and disbarred! The day someone forced me to worship a piece of cloth will be the day hell freezes over!
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Sep 27, 2012
 
"The judge should be removed from the bench and disbarred!"
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He was reelected and no other person on the ballot. Welcome to corrupt Tupelo politics. The only way yo change MS system is stop Federal welfare to the state.
Memphis law

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Not necessarily related to this event, but I'm looking for information on an Ashland home (Colonial style) called Shenendoah. Reply to briandominski@alphareporting.c om Thanks,
Good Attorney wrote:
Good attorney! I do not recite the repledge either, nor do I salute the flag. Why bother, given that the country is overrun by illegal immigrants, that public employee unions bribe our politicians, that activist judges overturn the vote of the people, and that racial and gender quotas are used instead of merit?
The only thing this country MIGHT do for me is pay back what I put into Social Security. Then again, maybe it won't.
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Oct 9, 2012
 
Adolpho Busillo wrote:
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Charlie Manson can write better than this try paragraphs freak.
And what of charlie manson's writings would you recommend? Moron.
Adolpho B

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#1818
Oct 18, 2012
 
All the CP's and tree hugging girlymen should go on a big boat back to where they comed from.
watchya know

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Oct 18, 2012
 

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Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
The judge should be removed from the bench and disbarred! The day someone forced me to worship a piece of cloth will be the day hell freezes over!
No one worships a piece of cloth. You are on another planet. The pledge is to give honor to the flag, honor to the ones who died to defend it, honor to the ones who served to protect our rights. And I will now express my freedom of speech to tell you to go back to your own continent, worship a cow or piece of rag or whatever you do there. We worship God and only God, not an image, not a flag.

I won't judge you if you don't pledge, but don't judge me if I choose to pay a few seconds of respect. I will do it at every opportunity and I will not be ashamed and no one can ever make me stop while I still draw breath.
tree hugger

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Oct 18, 2012
 
Adolpho B wrote:
All the CP's and tree hugging girlymen should go on a big boat back to where they comed from.
Where they 'comed' from. Duh!

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