Energy plant foe wins appeal (VIDEO)

Wow...way to go.
What now?
Lets run all business out of town. Thats it and we can do it with the pandering councilmen like the two here.
You have got to love Erie...These political "leaders" will join any "fight"if it means votes. Cant we elect someone with forsight that understands what it means to stand up for jobs and just enforce the laws and regs on the books instead of trumping up false "what ifs"
I am tired "dreaming" of new jobs... I am going south.

Do you live in the immediate area of the proposed plant?

If not, let's put it in your backyard. Then you can scrape the crap off your house, car, kids toys, etc.

I lived in that area when Hammermill was blowing crap out of its stacks. And yes, environmental policies are more stringent that they were back then, but the pollutants described in the application are still a big enough problem that a mere 50-60 jobs (I don't count construction jobs because they are temporary) doesn't seem to be a fair trade-off for the health issues of this project.

build it,they will come,erie is the perfect place for the new plant(1 great tourist town)?

One thing the paper did not report - Ricardo's Restaurant joined the appeal, and stated that they will close their doors if this plant is built.

bigdawg wrote:

Wow...way to go.
What now?
Lets run all business out of town. Thats it and we can do it with the pandering councilmen like the two here.
You have got to love Erie...These political "leaders" will join any "fight"if it means votes. Cant we elect someone with forsight that understands what it means to stand up for jobs and just enforce the laws and regs on the books instead of trumping up false "what ifs"
I am tired "dreaming" of new jobs... I am going south.

Good Bye.

bigdawg wrote:

Wow...way to go.
What now?
Lets run all business out of town. Thats it and we can do it with the pandering councilmen like the two here.
You have got to love Erie...These political "leaders" will join any "fight"if it means votes. Cant we elect someone with forsight that understands what it means to stand up for jobs and just enforce the laws and regs on the books instead of trumping up false "what ifs"
I am tired "dreaming" of new jobs... I am going south.

GOOD BYE BYE

Did you notice that all of the folks in the photo were older? Ever wonder why the younger generation is leaving? Maybe its because the older folks always want to railroad their thoughts and ideas. Maybe that why we keep electing the same doofs over and over.

K.E.E.P. is the grass-roots organization that formed in opposition to the plant, and is concerned the plant could be a health risk to nearby residents and dangerous to the environment.

...and they have been smoking too much of that grass!- narrow minded,tree hugging naysayers. Let's just shut down all business and industry in this town and we can all work at Wal-Mart or the mall.

Ok, you can all worry about the environment and this will be in my backyard and yadda yadda yadda, but the truth of the matter is that this is to be an industry. Industries do produce waste and they do create hazards. These are mitigated with new techniques and things are better than 50 years ago.

Industrial areas are zoned to contain them to specific places in the City of Erie. The area is zoned industrial. What industry do you expect to have in that corner of Erie? Hammermill was there a long time and people bought houses and lived down there before.(I was one of them!) They will continue to do so.

If you do not want it in your backyard, you move. That is your option. You were not there first, Hammermill and the industrial zoning was first. We could re-zone all of Erie as retail or residential, but where would you all work to afford your homes?

JoAnne Brawn wrote:

Ok, you can all worry about the environment and this will be in my backyard and yadda yadda yadda, but the truth of the matter is that this is to be an industry. Industries do produce waste and they do create hazards. These are mitigated with new techniques and things are better than 50 years ago.
Industrial areas are zoned to contain them to specific places in the City of Erie. The area is zoned industrial. What industry do you expect to have in that corner of Erie? Hammermill was there a long time and people bought houses and lived down there before.(I was one of them!) They will continue to do so.
If you do not want it in your backyard, you move. That is your option. You were not there first, Hammermill and the industrial zoning was first. We could re-zone all of Erie as retail or residential, but where would you all work to afford your homes?

Whatever motivated you to move next to Hammermill in the first place, and what transpired to make you leave?

JoAnne Brawn wrote:

Ok, you can all worry about the environment and this will be in my backyard and yadda yadda yadda, but the truth of the matter is that this is to be an industry. Industries do produce waste and they do create hazards. These are mitigated with new techniques and things are better than 50 years ago.
Industrial areas are zoned to contain them to specific places in the City of Erie. The area is zoned industrial. What industry do you expect to have in that corner of Erie? Hammermill was there a long time and people bought houses and lived down there before.(I was one of them!) They will continue to do so.
If you do not want it in your backyard, you move. That is your option. You were not there first, Hammermill and the industrial zoning was first. We could re-zone all of Erie as retail or residential, but where would you all work to afford your homes?

Good point! It's interesting to see that Mr. Petroff retired from Hammermill. Where was his religion then? Same with all those General Electric folks that were speaking.My hunch is General Electric's impact on the air & water quality is of in itself significant.Perhaps KEEP can research the enviromental impact of the General Electric Plant. I doubt that will be considered.We constantly hear the argument of the job trade-off. So as long as GE employs 4000, ERE-60,GE receives a pass. Same air, same neighborhood. Oh well,Slungerfunger still smells the stench of hypocrisy.

khp33 wrote:

K.E.E.P. is the grass-roots organization that formed in opposition to the plant, and is concerned the plant could be a health risk to nearby residents and dangerous to the environment.
...and they have been smoking too much of that grass!- narrow minded,tree hugging naysayers. Let's just shut down all business and industry in this town and we can all work at Wal-Mart or the mall.

Actually Wal-Mart and the Mall are businesses too so they would also be shut down.

Does GE put out anywhere near 4 tons of emissions a day?

Since Erie can be so selective to what type of businesses locate in Erie, What's the plan from the politicians and K.E.E.P to create jobs here? When you give the stupid answer of creating "green jobs" please be specific to what green companies are submitting plans to locate here.

Joe Mamas Luver wrote:

Did you notice that all of the folks in the photo were older? Ever wonder why the younger generation is leaving? Maybe its because the older folks always want to railroad their thoughts and ideas. Maybe that why we keep electing the same doofs over and over.

Yes the handfull of people that can actually be seen in the photo appear older. However there were 4 or 5 other zoning issues on the agenda at that meeting, so these older people aren't necessarily the ones protesting the plant.

The slick developers did not pull it off. They have friends at ETN, friends on all the boards. These associations are what brings government down in the gutter. It is "good" for them to twist the ordinances but everyone else has to jump through hoops. Besides the toxins and health issues you have government working with some honest people. Not out to make a buck at your expense but to keep the community relevant and able to prosper. It is located on one of THE GREAT LAKES, and should be thriving. A giant incinerator contributes nothing to this community. Quite tearing KEEP down as the group has stepped up- on their own time with their own dollars not tax incentives and all of our tax dollars.

"quit" would be correct

The bright ones left Erie for the suburbs.