Duluth argues free speech doesn't apply at holiday lights display Bentleyville

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First Amendment rights don't apply at a bayfront Christmas attraction, the city of Duluth argued in an objection filed Friday in federal court.

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CRASSUS Green Bay, WI	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #1 Dec 18, 2011 Judged: 2 1 What's up with Duluth? Is this city overrun with liberal nut jobs?
Wade Gustafson Saint Paul, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2 Dec 18, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 What a mediocre story. What is Bentleyville? A good news story answers who, what, where, why, and sometimes how. This story falls far short of answering those points.
woodtick57 Since: Mar 11 13,329 The Frank Stanton Studios	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3 Dec 18, 2011 Wade Gustafson wrote: What a mediocre story. What is Bentleyville? A good news story answers who, what, where, why, and sometimes how. This story falls far short of answering those points. Bentlyville is the company that puts up and/or the name of the huge christmas display on the bayfront area grounds.
jw in the grove Since: Jul 08 5,917 Saint Paul, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #4 Dec 18, 2011 those evil lights are offending the people.
woodtick57 Since: Mar 11 13,329 The Frank Stanton Studios	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #5 Dec 18, 2011 jw in the grove wrote: those evil lights are offending the people. Seems the guys preaching there were...
AntiMelting Snoqualmie, WA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #6 Dec 18, 2011 Duluth does have a lot of imported goods.
jw in the grove Since: Jul 08 5,917 Saint Paul, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #7 Dec 18, 2011 we dont like anyone offended, even if the vast majority like the lites , there is always one scrooge.
Wade Gustafson Saint Paul, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #8 Dec 18, 2011 woodtick57 wrote: <quoted text>Bentlyville is the company that puts up and/or the name of the huge christmas display on the bayfront area grounds. I knew that because I looked it up. A reader of the story should not have to do that.

Walter Minneapolis, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #9 Dec 18, 2011 woodtick57 wrote: <quoted text>Seems the guys preaching there were... Is it public property?
woodtick57 Since: Mar 11 13,329 The Frank Stanton Studios	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #10 Dec 18, 2011 Walter wrote: <quoted text> Is it public property? yes, but I believe bentlyville rents it or leases it for the season.
Going Forward Minneapolis, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #11 Dec 18, 2011 Judged: 2 Walter wrote: <quoted text> Is it public property? IF displays of anything opposed by anyone isn't accepted on public property then NOTHING, no protests or demonstrations, should be allowed on public property. Public property includes public streets, schools, lakes, state parks and forests, air ports, LRT property, historical property, Government buildings, etc.
woodtick57 Since: Mar 11 13,329 The Frank Stanton Studios	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #12 Dec 18, 2011 Going Forward wrote: <quoted text> IF displays of anything opposed by anyone isn't accepted on public property then NOTHING, no protests or demonstrations, should be allowed on public property. Public property includes public streets, schools, lakes, state parks and forests, air ports, LRT property, historical property, Government buildings, etc. It's not the displays that bugged people, just the preachers. Imagine that...
sad Minneapolis, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #13 Dec 18, 2011 Judged: 1 1 woodtick57 wrote: <quoted text>It's not the displays that bugged people, just the preachers. Imagine that... I just don't like to be preached at on public property. They've sprayed OWSers for less.
woodtick57 Since: Mar 11 13,329 The Frank Stanton Studios	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #14 Dec 18, 2011 sad wrote: <quoted text> I just don't like to be preached at on public property. They've sprayed OWSers for less. yes, there are places you can go to pay and be preached at, if you're into that sort of thing...
Going Forward Minneapolis, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #15 Dec 18, 2011 woodtick57 wrote: <quoted text>It's not the displays that bugged people, just the preachers. Imagine that... In Richmond Va it's common for preachers to set up shop on a street corner spouting their message. I'm sure there are other cities this occurs in. It becomes part of their culture. Don't like it don't listen. Free Country.
Going Forward Minneapolis, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #17 Dec 18, 2011 icouldusesomehel p wrote: <quoted text> And if it's hard core Islam in front of your Synagogue? That OK with you? As difficult as it might be we either live in a free country or we don't. I suspect your example MIGHT be addressed as harrassment IF conflict results and a restraining order issued. Much like the reverse of the situation.
woodtick57 Since: Mar 11 13,329 The Frank Stanton Studios	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #19 Dec 18, 2011 Going Forward wrote: <quoted text> In Richmond Va it's common for preachers to set up shop on a street corner spouting their message. I'm sure there are other cities this occurs in. It becomes part of their culture. Don't like it don't listen. Free Country. Glad i don't live in Richmond, VA.(for many reasons).
woodtick57 Since: Mar 11 13,329 The Frank Stanton Studios	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #20 Dec 18, 2011 icouldusesomehel p wrote: <quoted text> I think I agree with you. I hate preaching anywhere but INSIDE a religious institution. Unfortunately if they want to yap on the corner we have to let them. Usually, one needs to apply for a permit to use a public area.
woodtick57 Since: Mar 11 13,329 The Frank Stanton Studios	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #22 Dec 18, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 NY TIMES wrote: <quoted text> To stand on a corner and preach? I don't think so. You seem to be the kind of person that wants to control things. To just stand on a corner and preach, probably not. To intrude into a rented public space, yes, I would think so.
digger Minneapolis, MN	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #23 Dec 18, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 CRASSUS wrote: What's up with Duluth? Is this city overrun with liberal nut jobs? YES, it IS. I wouldn't live there if my rent/house payment was ZERO, and my utility bills were always paid in FULL by the taxpayers. Half the city is inhabited by NUT JOBS, losers, dopers, tree-hugging, fur-hatin' vegans who can't add 2 plus 2. I do feel sorry for the other half who live there though. They deserve BETTER.
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