Authorities: 20 Year old Holly Bobo Abducted in Decatur County

Apr 13, 2011 Full story: MidSouthNewz 192,906

Authorities in Decatur and Henderson County as well as the Tennessee Highway Patrol and Tennessee Bureau of Investigation are searching for 20 year old Holly Bobo.

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Since: Jun 11

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#164310 Mar 16, 2014
Ponderings wrote:
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There is no doubt in my mind that if ZA had been around just 30 years ago at the age he is now, and involved in all the criminal behavior that he has been in, that he would have been thrown in the Decatur Co. jail and the key tossed away until they could quickly convict him, then put him a Federal prison for life.....and that would have been before he even murdered anyone.
Today, that county, like many others in the U.S., is overwhelmed with criminals just like him. There are many 'mafia-like' groups involving these low level scum everywhere now. Still no excuse of course, but jails are overcrowded and it takes forever to get a court trial lined up. Forget the "speedy trial' for citizens that was touted so long ago in this country... simply, there is no longer such a thing as a speedy trial. It is frightening, but there are many "Z.A.'s" throughout our nation who have their own revolving door in our county and city jails. The only time they are finally locked up safely is when there is enough evidence to possibly convict them of a homicide, then authorities are forced to lock them up safely from the public. But until they commit a murder that can be proven, they walk our streets. And, many already are killers but they are shrewd enough to avoid getting arrested, and sometimes for years, if ever.
Yeah, it doesn't hurt if you have a judge or two in your pocket either! Those days are long gone for Zach! The Ronco pocket judge isn't going to be able to slice and dice this one! 1200 viewers watching and it just can't handle that kind of volume!

Since: Jan 13

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#164311 Mar 16, 2014
Agree wrote:
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I do not have a link to this "CNN article."
Even as gossip, however, it would tie into the earlier gossipy speculation on Topix that the guy on the carport was her cousin JA (DISTANT cousin to us Tennesseans, IMO), and if she saw him out there in hunting uniform with a turkey carcass, she would not have hidden inside her house.
Except, if I were Holly, I would have wondered why is a distant cousin turkey-hunting in my back yard or woods?(And we Tennesseans usually consider our distant cousins to be creepy, for some reason. lol)
P.S. I think another A was parked back there, waiting for him to bring her to the vehicle, don't y'all?
Actually, the way JA was described on here in relationship to the Bobo's, he really is no blood relation. Connected a couple of generations ago through marriage only.
browndoggie

United States

#164312 Mar 16, 2014
Just so you will know wrote:
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The cabin 16 incident was right after she went missing, wasn't it? Looks like they wouldn't have kept looking for her for 3 years if they had that information all along. Something just doesn't sound right. Grape jelly? I'm no forensic expert, but I don't think brains on a wall would look much like grape jelly, do you?
If you have ever field dressed an animal , say a deer for instance, the coagulated blood around the bullet wound looks like grape jelly.
Not Going There

Savannah, TN

#164313 Mar 16, 2014
Guest wrote:
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Actually, quite a lot of people never blame themselves for their own wrongdoings, blame someone else and think they are victims of others - it's not only psychopaths.
Regardless what the label is, we got sevrral of those type right here on this thread. For sure they would be classified as psycho something.

Since: Jan 13

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#164314 Mar 16, 2014
Agree wrote:
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Is she one of those cousins we Tennesseans would prefer to think of as DISTANT-----creepy or questionable? lol
And my little laugh is not about this cruel, heinous crime, but at our own human foolishness in how we think about family and esp. COUSINS.
A first cousin. She is the daughter of Dana's brother.

Since: Feb 13

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#164315 Mar 16, 2014
As someone who has a limited experience with the law and crime scenes, I will tell you what I know....

If and when ZA, or anyone else who might eventually be arrested and tried for this crime, their Meth use,(or any other addiction) may be used in court, but not as a 'reason' for what they did.

Diminished capacity is what the term would be. Diminished Capacity is NOT a DEFENSE at trial. It is a 'mitigating factor'. A mitigating factor would be used during the sentencing phase. Diminished Capacity could very well be used to diminish a sentence such as the death penalty. It could mean that even with a conviction, ZA may not receive the death sentence, but life with/without the possibility of parole.

Also, for those who feel that ZA had the 'audacity' to plea 'not guilty: In the State of Tennessee, one cannot plea guilty to a death penalty case. They are required to have a trial.

I hope this clears it up a bit for you.
browndoggie

United States

#164316 Mar 16, 2014
Ponderings wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no doubt in my mind that if ZA had been around just 30 years ago at the age he is now, and involved in all the criminal behavior that he has been in, that he would have been thrown in the Decatur Co. jail and the key tossed away until they could quickly convict him, then put him a Federal prison for life.....and that would have been before he even murdered anyone.
Today, that county, like many others in the U.S., is overwhelmed with criminals just like him. There are many 'mafia-like' groups involving these low level scum everywhere now. Still no excuse of course, but jails are overcrowded and it takes forever to get a court trial lined up. Forget the "speedy trial' for citizens that was touted so long ago in this country... simply, there is no longer such a thing as a speedy trial. It is frightening, but there are many "Z.A.'s" throughout our nation who have their own revolving door in our county and city jails. The only time they are finally locked up safely is when there is enough evidence to possibly convict them of a homicide, then authorities are forced to lock them up safely from the public. But until they commit a murder that can be proven, they walk our streets. And, many already are killers but they are shrewd enough to avoid getting arrested, and sometimes for years, if ever.
Unfortunatly, Dec co was no less corrupt 30 yrs ago. Maybe no meth then but money still talked & bs still walked same as now.
Wonderer

Nashville, TN

#164317 Mar 16, 2014
SexySassySenior wrote:
CONT.)
"Testimony at trial indicated that the defendant was using two grams
of “crank” a day in addition to a quarter gram of cocaine as well as substantial
amounts of other drugs to “mellow” the highs and to allow him to sleep.
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In support of his insanity defense, the defendant offered the testimony
of Dr. Donna Segar, a physician who is board certified in toxicology, and Dr.
William D. Kenner, a psychiatrist at the St. Louis Psychoanalytic Institute. Dr. Segar
testified that regular, long term use of substantial amounts of methamphetamine
and cocaine would completely change one’s personality.9 Thought processes
become delusional and paranoid. A person under the influence of “crank” or “ice”
often speaks very rapidly and literally spits out the words through clenched teeth.
Such a person demonstrates increasingly hostile and aggressive behavior and his
judgment would be substantially impaired. She testified that two grams of
methamphetamine per day is a high dosage and that a person who used that
amount would experience hallucinations. A common hallucination, according to Dr.
Segar, is the belief that insects or bugs are crawling under the skin. Dr. Segar did
not examine the defendant but testified from her knowledge and experience.
Dr. Kenner spent several hours on two different days examining the
defendant. He extensively interviewed family members and one co-defendant. Of
significance were the facts that two members of the defendant’s family suffered
from depression and committed suicide, that the defendant’s marriage had been
troubled, and that a work injury to the defendant’s back had caused considerable
pain. Despite his injury, the defendant had continued to work long hours on the job
and at home on the family farm. Within a few months, a cousin committed suicide
and his parents divorced. After his separation from his wife, his drug use grew to
unmanageable proportions, and in October of 1994, he was fired from his job. Dr.
Kenner testified that the defendant changed from a likeable, fun-loving person who
grew angry but never held a grudge into one who was increasingly cocky and
aggressive. He became jumpy and twitchy and was unable to sleep for more than
a few minutes at a time without medication. He experienced tactile hallucinations
and would sometimes dig at himself with a knife. Dr. Kenner described a person
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seriously addicted to methamphetamine as being very paranoid and frightened but
“spoiling for a fight.” Methamphetamine produces an increase of territorial
aggression and cocaine decreases inhibitions and impairs judgment. The doctor
concluded that at the time of the murders the defendant was suffering from an
amphetamine-induced paranoid psychosis that would have a significant impact on
his ability to conform his behavior and to self-examine his thinking and actions."
Sounds like an "insane" plea basis
Not Going There

Savannah, TN

#164318 Mar 16, 2014
Prayer Brings Peace wrote:
As someone who has a limited experience with the law and crime scenes, I will tell you what I know....
If and when ZA, or anyone else who might eventually be arrested and tried for this crime, their Meth use,(or any other addiction) may be used in court, but not as a 'reason' for what they did.
Diminished capacity is what the term would be. Diminished Capacity is NOT a DEFENSE at trial. It is a 'mitigating factor'. A mitigating factor would be used during the sentencing phase. Diminished Capacity could very well be used to diminish a sentence such as the death penalty. It could mean that even with a conviction, ZA may not receive the death sentence, but life with/without the possibility of parole.
Also, for those who feel that ZA had the 'audacity' to plea 'not guilty: In the State of Tennessee, one cannot plea guilty to a death penalty case. They are required to have a trial.
I hope this clears it up a bit for you.
And you forgot to state that generally a plea deal comes about because of a bargain struck between two parties as in "we will give to you if you in turn give us something we need". Even if the case begins with asking for the death penalty, that does not mean it will stay on the table in the end.

Since: Feb 13

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#164319 Mar 16, 2014
Wolfscratch Glenn Adams wrote:
<sniped from SexySassySenior's post above>
.” Methamphetamine produces an increase of territorial
aggression and cocaine decreases inhibitions and impairs judgment. The doctor
concluded that at the time of the murders the defendant was suffering from an
* Amphetamine-induced paranoid psychosis that would have a significant impact on his ability to conform his behavior and to self-examine his thinking and actions."
__________
'If presented with overwhelming evidence by the prosecution in the Holly Bobo kidnapping/murder.
Was the Meth smuggling incident by ZA, while being transferred to another Jail a calculated strategy for a later defense?
__________
TBI director: Bobo suspect tried smuggling meth into jail-
But, last week, came a big break in the case.
"We made an arrest. Lo and behold, the person has several meth-related charges. And the night we arrested him, he was trying to get meth into the jail," Gwyn said.
That person is Adams, who was first taken to the Decatur County Jail. The TBI says Adams smuggled meth into jail when he was transferred to Chester County.
Posted: Mar 11, 2014
http://www.wsmv.com/story/24949421/tbi-direct...
Wolfscratch
In the Appellate Court's Ruling, which I didn't post, it said that willing drug use is not a Defense for committing a Crime.

So, if the Accused was trying to set up a Defense by having Meth smuggled in, it won't work!

Also, in the Link of the Appellate Courts decision, it recounts the Defendant's own description of thinking he was "going to die" while he was in jail and withdrawing from the Meth and Cocaine.

It's really a very interesting Read, particularly for those of us who never have , and don't use, drugs. One just has to wade through the Legal-eze and it's 20-something pages long, but well worth reading it to understand Holly's Case and why the TBI Head cited these two Cases, as well as understanding why the Drug use is such an important part of Holly's Case.

In my opinion, it answers a lot of questions that have been speculated about on this thread.

http://www.tncourts.gov/sites/default/files/O...
Curiousin Ne

Morse Bluff, NE

#164320 Mar 16, 2014
Does anyone know how long a meth high lasts? I'm sure there are variables but I'm wondering about how long it would take before you would need to take it again to maintain your high. TIA

Since: Feb 13

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#164321 Mar 16, 2014
BTW Wolfscratch, Thank You for originally finding, and posting, that Link to that particular Case. I think it's extremely informative, and pertinent, to Holly's Case, if People would only read it.

Well done!
Caring

Albany, GA

#164322 Mar 16, 2014
Guest Who wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't follow. You don't know Clint from Drew.
I was talking about what we know NOW.
Not what will be revealed at trial later.
Just what has been publicly stated thus far.
Understand?
Look up the meaning and expand your vocabulary.
Some people cause me to be brusque with them.
You really need to reply to someone who really gives a damn what you think. That isn't me.

I find you entertaining, at best.

I admit my mistakes, and yes, since the media called Drew, Clint, I thought it was legitimate reporting. My bad. It does shows your nitpicking desperation to come up with something, anything. You are right again. I don't know the Bobo family personally. I wish I did because they seem to be a lovely family. The only connection to them I have is I have sent funds to them several times throughout these three long years when Holly was missing.

It amazes me that you even think someone (anyone) really cares if you are 'brusque' or not. Narcissistic much? lol I have found you to be a very controlling individual who has a tendency to overrate themselves.

Oh I fully understand that your time is now limited when it comes to you trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit. With the trial on the horizon it does have a way of putting a kink in someone's quest to disparage the Bobo family. The clock is ticking now.........closer, and, closer to the real truth than ever before.

I have been posting on Topix for many years. Its the same old same old in every case and always one or two that thinks they run the forum when they don't. It is very interesting though to go back, and look at the spiel by some posters once the real suspect has been brought to trial, and when the facts finally outweighs rancid speculation.

Lady Justice is beginning to rise for Holly and the Bobo family.

Since: May 13

Southaven, MS

#164323 Mar 16, 2014
browndoggie wrote:
<quoted text>If you have ever field dressed an animal , say a deer for instance, the coagulated blood around the bullet wound looks like grape jelly.
This is true and unfortunately I also have seen brains.

I'll never eat jelly again. GAG

Since: Jul 11

Spartanburg, SC

#164324 Mar 16, 2014
SmokesNmirrorS1 wrote:
No za. 100% positive. It may be in another thread. Is there another thread with a title along the lines of "places holly may be" I remember when he posted them but at the time I thought he was really innocent and just venting at locals but now that he has been charged I'm curious to read them again. All they said was something along the lines of people need to quit spreading rumors and people have nothin better to do
Thanks.
reddoggie

Tyler, TX

#164325 Mar 16, 2014
Caring wrote:
<quoted text>
You really need to reply to someone who really gives a damn what you think. That isn't me.
I find you entertaining, at best.
I admit my mistakes, and yes, since the media called Drew, Clint, I thought it was legitimate reporting. My bad. It does shows your nitpicking desperation to come up with something, anything. You are right again. I don't know the Bobo family personally. I wish I did because they seem to be a lovely family. The only connection to them I have is I have sent funds to them several times throughout these three long years when Holly was missing.
It amazes me that you even think someone (anyone) really cares if you are 'brusque' or not. Narcissistic much? lol I have found you to be a very controlling individual who has a tendency to overrate themselves.
Oh I fully understand that your time is now limited when it comes to you trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit. With the trial on the horizon it does have a way of putting a kink in someone's quest to disparage the Bobo family. The clock is ticking now.........closer, and, closer to the real truth than ever before.
I have been posting on Topix for many years. Its the same old same old in every case and always one or two that thinks they run the forum when they don't. It is very interesting though to go back, and look at the spiel by some posters once the real suspect has been brought to trial, and when the facts finally outweighs rancid speculation.
Lady Justice is beginning to rise for Holly and the Bobo family.
Perfect.

Since: Jul 11

Spartanburg, SC

#164326 Mar 16, 2014
Wonderer wrote:
<quoted text>not without a warrant
I believe you're mistaken.

Since: Jul 11

Spartanburg, SC

#164327 Mar 16, 2014
Waitin for justice wrote:
http://www.jacksonsun.com/arti cle/20140316/NEWS01/303160005/ Why-wasn-t-Zachary-Adams-behin d-bars-
Posted in today's paper
The judge had what he needed, this is called covering your buddy's hind end. I would bet this is exactly why the $50,000 was put up by the governor. They already knew this was coming.
Caring

Albany, GA

#164328 Mar 16, 2014
reddoggie wrote:
<quoted text>
Perfect.
Thank you,:)

I truly believe that the real TRUTH scares the crap out of some of the posters here.

They don't really want the TRUTH. They want to be right instead of being dead wrong.
Wonderer

Nashville, TN

#164329 Mar 16, 2014
browndoggie wrote:
<quoted text> If you have ever field dressed an animal , say a deer for instance, the coagulated blood around the bullet wound looks like grape jelly.
You are correct. To a non-medical person, at a distance, coagulated blood (covering white matter) could give an appearance of a deep red grape jelly appearance. Was details, of this event, posted on Topix?

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