California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

Jay wrote:

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Tell me where you live & I will come to you house, light up a 5 gram blunt & puff puff all over
Your as*.
morons like you don't deserve freedom.
Very soon you will see all states pass med. Pot
Laws. Then you can't run or hide from it.
You are the biggest chink hypocrite & have no
Right living in the land of the free. GO HOME!

you are such a retard.

..don't you know that your freedom does not give you the right to intrude on my freedom?

do you even understand what that means, genius?

let me give you some examples of what I mean...

you have freedom of speech. but that freedom does not give you the right to slander, commit fraud, cheat other people, etc.

get what I mean, genius?

on smoking tobacco.. you have the right to smoke. but not where the second hand smoke can harm others.

getting the message, genius?

where marijuana is concerned.. we all know that like alcohol, marijuana smoke can cause you to be drowsy, dehabilitated. like smoking tabacco, you have no right to expose others to the harmful effects of marijuana smoke.

imagine someone found to be DUI because of the second hand smoke of some marijuana smoker? whose to blame?

in the workplace, we all know that marijuana makes you dumb and less able to perform your work. where's the logic of allowing it in the workplace? the answer - none.

look at capitol hill? we got all politicians who use marijuana. and they don't even want to obey the laws that they themselves approve.

unbelievable.

get the message yet, GENIUS?

Chris O wrote:

Read my posted comments on 3 pot dispensarys...

No, and You can't force Me to read it.

Jay wrote:

<quoted text>
Tell me where you live & I will come to you house, light up a 5 gram blunt & puff puff all over
Your as*.
morons like you don't deserve freedom.
Very soon you will see all states pass med. Pot
Laws. Then you can't run or hide from it.
You are the biggest chink hypocrite & have no
Right living in the land of the free. GO HOME!

if anybody is a moron, it's you, pilgrim.

the medical marijuana laws don't give you the freedom to smoke pot in front of my face.
http://www.marijuanatipster.com/tiki-index.ph...

another thing, your freedom to do as you please does not give you the right to trample on my freedoms or those of other people.

as for puffing in my face.. you do so at your own risk. harm me, and mine. and I'll feel inclined to harm you. how? use your imagination, moron.

I didn't say anything about having the right 2 smoke in public. I SAID I WILL BLOW POT SMOKE IN YOUR FACE LAW OR NO LAW.
Learn to read. Only REAL AMERICANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE FREE FROM HARM,
NOT CHINKS LIKE YOU.

PS... I WILL TAKE THAT RISK, if you wanna call a threat from a 90 lbs. Jap a Risk.

Doesn't sound risky to me.
I happen to be a Light Heavyweight 205lb. Cage Fighter in the Gladiator fights.
You a Risk. LMMFAO!!!!!!
TRY AGAIN CHINK.
anyone reading this I am not prejudice of other races, just idiots like him.

Jay wrote:

I didn't say anything about having the right 2 smoke in public. I SAID I WILL BLOW POT SMOKE IN YOUR FACE LAW OR NO LAW.
Learn to read. Only REAL AMERICANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE FREE FROM HARM,
NOT CHINKS LIKE YOU.
PS... I WILL TAKE THAT RISK, if you wanna call a threat from a 90 lbs. Jap a Risk.
Doesn't sound risky to me.
I happen to be a Light Heavyweight 205lb. Cage Fighter in the Gladiator fights.
You a Risk. LMMFAO!!!!!!
TRY AGAIN CHINK.
anyone reading this I am not prejudice of other races, just idiots like him.

punk kid.

Asian Guy wrote:

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punk kid.

open your mouth

I need to pee

All day long ppl walk in public while smoking a
Marlboro & that's legal yet more harmful.
Pot smoke does not cause cancer, at least not when it's grown organically.
Plus I would much rather the future generation
of children smoke weed instead of cigerettes.
Bottom Line. We will always grow & smoke
Marijuana. No matter the law.
It's our given right. If the GOV. Pushes us to far
We will bear arms arms & overthrow them.
That is also another Right we have as
Americans.
Like it or not Asian guy , The FEDS, the DEA or
Even Obama himself has no authority to
Stop us from growing & smoking as much weed as we can. THESE ARE UNDISPUTABLE
FACTS.!!

The Avenger wrote:

Yes, let's legalize it. After all, it is no more dangerous than cigarettes and cigars. If you really think that, I challenge you to a trial. I'll get in my car and you in yours, we'll both chain-smoke as we drive the Freeways fom LAX to Fraser Park. See which one makes it??? Har-Har!

You might want to look up the statistics relating to the # of deaths each year related to smoking as compaired to those related to marijuana. So lets try another challenge. I'll toke up every day and you chain-smoke. And in 30 years "See which one makes it??? Har-Har!"

Cars were only suppose to drive on hemp fuel. Oil came around the same time the car was invented and the government to this day is fcking everyone. Oil burns dirty. Hemp burns cleaner and makes your motor last longer. Read all about it, read all about it.

^^ He's right, You know.

The reason hemp oil makes your engine last longer is due to a few things.
1. Because it's cleaner less sludge build up.
2. It's viscosity break up point takes longer to reach & withstands higher heat than petroleum based oils!
3. Because of # 1 & 2. You also get a little better fuel economy.( 1-3 extra MPG )

Marijuana, get some for your car today ! Lol

Hemp oil along with alcohol fuel & our cars would have much more power & better mpg.
Oh yeah, better for earth too.

Jay wrote:

The reason hemp oil makes your engine last longer is due to a few things.
1. Because it's cleaner less sludge build up.
2. It's viscosity break up point takes longer to reach & withstands higher heat than petroleum based oils!
3. Because of # 1 & 2. You also get a little better fuel economy.( 1-3 extra MPG )
Marijuana, get some for your car today ! Lol
Hemp oil along with alcohol fuel & our cars would have much more power & better mpg.
Oh yeah, better for earth too.

imagine a country full of drug addicts, and mentally impaired people due to their use of marijuana.

it happened before.

back in the 1800's, mainland china went through the opium wars.

what happened? READ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

now, the big question is... do you really think this scenario of drug addicts and the mentally impaired is what you want?

imagine a world of the brain dead, and stupid.

as it were, we have capitol hill full of these people. and look at how well they are doing.

Asian idiot! You lack American values. Like freedom! And since you know so much about china your homeland please go back their.
You don't deserve to breath our air you Nazi Wannabe.

How often are the top
Importers and big time dealers busted???
There is more users and very low level dealers in jail on tax payers money than the kingpins that should be. Let's not to mention how fucked up Mexico is with drug wars over importing.

As a ex smoker it didn't make want to rob and kill just relax and have a good time. I have not smoked in 9 years and I'm a very productive person and I know a few smokers who are just as productive as I am if not more. By holding a job not going to jail raising a family and contributing to my community

Commander Bunny wrote:

<quoted text>No, and You can't force Me to read it.

LOL

tinamo wrote:

I am voting no. Have just a couple of basic questions? Who will be going to their homes to measure the regulated grow? Department of Agriculture? How are these users really going to keep the weed away from their kids and their friends? What breathalyzer test are we going to use when some one is under the influence and driving?

Totally agree with you. What always disturbs me about these proposed laws is the lack of infrastructure planning presented. How will all of this be managed? What system, tools, etc. will be used? What about the healthcare costs associated with increased users/addicts/usage? We still can't seem to get a grip on our alcohol/cigarettes issues: Why add another vice to the pile? How else will my taxes be spent? Who else's problems do I have to pay for?

Paddington wrote:

<quoted text>Totally agree with you. What always disturbs me about these proposed laws is the lack of infrastructure planning presented. How will all of this be managed? What system, tools, etc. will be used? What about the healthcare costs associated with increased users/addicts/usage? We still can't seem to get a grip on our alcohol/cigarettes issues: Why add another vice to the pile? How else will my taxes be spent? Who else's problems do I have to pay for?

I agree with not paying for others problems do why not tax the hell out of it like gas alcohol and cigarettes.

Gloop.

Asian Guy wrote:

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imagine a country full of drug addicts, and mentally impaired people due to their use of marijuana.
it happened before.
back in the 1800's, mainland china went through the opium wars.
what happened? READ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars
now, the big question is... do you really think this scenario of drug addicts and the mentally impaired is what you want?
imagine a world of the brain dead, and stupid.
as it were, we have capitol hill full of these people. and look at how well they are doing.

You get it wrong at the start. Marijuana is not addictive, and it does not impair the mental. This has been verified experimentally again and again. MJ is a slight inebriant with healthy consequences, especially compared to drugs like tobacco, alcohol and most tranquilizers and antidepressant. It is pleasurable and can lead to some habituation for people having some life trouble, but then again it is better for those people to habituate themselves to cannabis instead of most known legal products. So the evidences are that, when legal, cannabis prevents the use of drugs and medications.
Anyway, addiction, even strong one, can be cured. It is an health problem, and the medication exists and are efficacious, like with Tabernanthe iboga or Salvia divinorum.
This illustrates how much prohibition leads to misinformation, and create the drug problem, where before there was just incidental problems, nor more than we sport and bikes.
As we have explain often, including references, cannabis legalization would lead to much *less* "brain dead and stupidity", if only by being regulated instead of sold at abnormal price in all streets in the whole world by gangsters who target the kids and never ask for ID.

Paddington wrote:

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Totally agree with you. What always disturbs me about these proposed laws is the lack of infrastructure planning presented. How will all of this be managed? What system, tools, etc. will be used? What about the healthcare costs associated with increased users/addicts/usage? We still can't seem to get a grip on our alcohol/cigarettes issues: Why add another vice to the pile? How else will my taxes be spent? Who else's problems do I have to pay for?

You start from a wrong premise. Once all drugs are legal, the drug consumption diminishes, the healthcare costs diminishes drastically. In countries where drugs are better regulated you have one or two pharmacies per town. Where drugs are illegal, you are sold addictive medication and the state becomes a drug dealer, and you get one or two if not more pharmacies per street, and much more impaired people by alcohol and legal medication.
So it is not a question of adding another vice to the pile, but as making legal an excellent medications against vices and many health problem.