Judge ponders whether to release documents in Paradise excessiv...

You can bet the judge will release the documments to Mr Funks lawyer, as the Judge knows the FBI is in town. The window is getting small for these rebel cops!

The judge should release any information to this guys lawyer reguardless of what the FBI fines. I think cops are becoming increasingly hostile towards the puplic. They are not much better (if at all) than some of the thugs they arrest.
They need to change their motto form "To protect and serve" to "Your dead meat punk"

There is a solution to get police and deputy records...It's called the Pithcess Motion or Evidence code 1043 et seq. Also referred to as the "Brady Motion." I used this in Plumas Co. against a rouge cop this last year.

Brian Garrett wrote:

There is a solution to get police and deputy records...It's called the Pithcess Motion or Evidence code 1043 et seq. Also referred to as the "Brady Motion." I used this in Plumas Co. against a rouge cop this last year.

But that's what was used in both cases, Funk
and Schumacher. In your case, did you have to wait
for the judge to review the file first & then decide
to release? Don't see why that is necessary? One
could have a spaz attack just waiting for the judge
to decide.Hah Hah After being attacked unnecessarily
by cops, sitting in court for months, then finally
seeing some progress by your Atty getting the file.
Now you have to wait another month or so for the
decision to be made for it's release. One oughtta get
compensated for having to deal with the fiasco of it
all. Seems like alot of wasted time and undue stress.

"According to a lieutenant in the ridge police department, an internal affairs investigation previously ruled that Cooper and Pickering did not violate any departmental rules or laws in connection with Baltierra's arrest. "

Funny after reading this from http://www.copbrutality.com/ which reads:

" Police brutality is a term used to describe any excessive and unnecessary physical force, assault, or verbal abuse used by law enforcement when dealing with the public. The United States Code, the laws that govern the day to day running of the country, states that any person working under the authority of a state law enforcement body who violates the civil rights of anyone in the U.S. is liable to pay for any damages they cause. "

...exactley what these officers delt out to Balltiera, Funk, & Shumaucer (names might be misspelled, sry). By US code, they violated the rules. Plain & simple.

LOL Book 'um Dano~

A Good Dog wrote:

"According to a lieutenant in the ridge police department, an internal affairs investigation previously ruled that Cooper and Pickering did not violate any departmental rules or laws in connection with Baltierra's arrest. "
Funny after reading this from http://www.copbrutality.com/ which reads:
" Police brutality is a term used to describe any excessive and unnecessary physical force, assault, or verbal abuse used by law enforcement when dealing with the public. The United States Code, the laws that govern the day to day running of the country, states that any person working under the authority of a state law enforcement body who violates the civil rights of anyone in the U.S. is liable to pay for any damages they cause. "
...exactley what these officers delt out to Balltiera, Funk, & Shumaucer (names might be misspelled, sry). By US code, they violated the rules. Plain & simple.
LOL Book 'um Dano~

Thanks Good Dog. Now getting the chief and
his staff to admit that is another story. Almost
seems like we don't speak the same language. Also,
in the UN Code of Conduct for Law Officials it
provides that officers use force only when strictly
necessary and to the extent required for the performance of their duty. It goes on to stipulate
that whenever the use of force and firearms is
unavoidable officials shall exercise "restraint" in
such use and act in proportion to the seriousness of
the offence and the legitimate objective to be achieved. It is obvious to any "honest" observer who
looks at the cases under the parameter of the code
that the officers, in fact, did not follow code but
still,PPD claims they did, at least in JB & JL's
cases. Sorry, but those "internal" investigations
look like more of a cover up to me. Still think they
should include the Town and the citizens on those.

Sadly in today's world, those who would make good policemen are not pursuing that line of work anymore. Why work for pennies when you can earn quarters and 50 cent pieces in other lines of work?

Thus, all that's left are bottom feeders like these two cowboys. In the old days a police chief with a spine would have fired them in a second and most likely, they wouldn't have been hired in the first place.

Paradise PD is Corrupt wrote:

Sadly in today's world, those who would make good policemen are not pursuing that line of work anymore. Why work for pennies when you can earn quarters and 50 cent pieces in other lines of work?
Thus, all that's left are bottom feeders like these two cowboys. In the old days a police chief with a spine would have fired them in a second and most likely, they wouldn't have been hired in the first place.

Heard something similar from a retiree from
the force who adamantly said those two bozos would
have been out of there by now in his department. But
see your point about there being no incentive for
new officers to aspire to the profession. What do you
think can be done to change that? And what about the
starting age? Isn't 20 yrs old too young to have the
maturity to handle a police profession?

Paradise PD is Corrupt wrote:

Sadly in today's world, those who would make good policemen are not pursuing that line of work anymore. Why work for pennies when you can earn quarters and 50 cent pieces in other lines of work?
Thus, all that's left are bottom feeders like these two cowboys. In the old days a police chief with a spine would have fired them in a second and most likely, they wouldn't have been hired in the first place.

Yeah well get used to the idea of having a bunch of new cops.. with a town manager like Chuck Roe there will be no lateral cops from anywhere. He gives himself a 24% raise and comes from a town he helped to bankrupt and takes his vacation last month in Hawaii, but dont expect him to hire any new or good cops.

Devils Advocate1 wrote:

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Yeah well get used to the idea of having a bunch of new cops.. with a town manager like Chuck Roe there will be no lateral cops from anywhere. He gives himself a 24% raise and comes from a town he helped to bankrupt and takes his vacation last month in Hawaii, but dont expect him to hire any new or good cops.

The Town Manager is Chuck Rough, AKA: Charles Rough.

Paradise Gal wrote:

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The Town Manager is Chuck Rough, AKA: Charles Rough.

So the Devil's Advocate claims there will be
no lateral cops. Is he referring to transfers or what? Trying to gain an understanding of his claims.

To Paradise Gal wrote:

<quoted text>So the Devil's Advocate claims there will be
no lateral cops. Is he referring to transfers or what? Trying to gain an understanding of his claims.

Lateral, meaning no seasoned cops. We will get fresh out of school kids working our streets, being trained by the very officers that most of this community detest.

To Paradise Gal wrote:

<quoted text>So the Devil's Advocate claims there will be
no lateral cops. Is he referring to transfers or what? Trying to gain an understanding of his claims.

Actually, I believe Devil's Advocate is limited in her thought process. Actually, we won't need lateral transfers. We are having a whole bunch of veterans coming back from the war. There is a pull down of forces. I believe we will get some experienced police officers that were trained by professionals. The good Ole USA, government trained and government funded for education. They will be an assest to the police force.

Paradise Gal wrote:

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Actually, I believe Devil's Advocate is limited in her thought process. Actually, we won't need lateral transfers. We are having a whole bunch of veterans coming back from the war. There is a pull down of forces. I believe we will get some experienced police officers that were trained by professionals. The good Ole USA, government trained and government funded for education. They will be an assest to the police force.

And I believe PG is limited in her knowledge of how Town Goverment works. Our fine town manager is only allowing one position to be filled with a lateral officer. Any others (even if just coming home from a war) will have to go through the schooling and again be trained by the PPD officers. An FTO trains for 6 months before they are allowed to hit the streets alone. They are then on probation for another 6 months after FTO training is complete.

Devils Advocate1 wrote:

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And I believe PG is limited in her knowledge of how Town Goverment works. Our fine town manager is only allowing one position to be filled with a lateral officer. Any others (even if just coming home from a war) will have to go through the schooling and again be trained by the PPD officers. An FTO trains for 6 months before they are allowed to hit the streets alone. They are then on probation for another 6 months after FTO training is complete.

Aren't you the smart little devil. Don't know the town managers name, but can plug in all there is about officers' training. Amazing!

Paradise Gal wrote:

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Aren't you the smart little devil. Don't know the town managers name, but can plug in all there is about officers' training. Amazing!

(Patting PG on the head) I know his name.. spelling it, maybe not. It's funny.. you people want to know all about the officers' and how they feel, but when someone posts info you bash them.. Like I have said before in other posts.. you are no better then they are.

Devils Advocate1 wrote:

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(Patting PG on the head) I know his name.. spelling it, maybe not. It's funny.. you people want to know all about the officers' and how they feel, but when someone posts info you bash them.. Like I have said before in other posts.. you are no better then they are.

I'm sorry "Little Devil", I must be dumb as a post, exactly who are you talking about, who are they that I'm no better than?

Please pat me some more on the head and enlighten me.

Devils Advocate1 wrote:

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(Patting PG on the head) I know his name.. spelling it, maybe not. It's funny.. you people want to know all about the officers' and how they feel, but when someone posts info you bash them.. Like I have said before in other posts.. you are no better then they are.

No, not so, Dear
Devil. Appreciate your valuable information.
Thank you for the heads up on what the Town plans
to do to improve the Department. Please don't
be so easily insulted by Paradise Gal's comments.
It's just that she's a little concerned about
what you're claiming. So, are you saying that we
will not get any experienced officers to serve the
Town of Pdse? Only rookies who won't know how to
act right when faced with the citizens? Or is that
a wrong perception of what you're claiming?

No Not So wrote:

<quoted text>No, not so, Dear
Devil. Appreciate your valuable information.
Thank you for the heads up on what the Town plans
to do to improve the Department. Please don't
be so easily insulted by Paradise Gal's comments.
It's just that she's a little concerned about
what you're claiming. So, are you saying that we
will not get any experienced officers to serve the
Town of Pdse? Only rookies who won't know how to
act right when faced with the citizens? Or is that
a wrong perception of what you're claiming?

That is what the claim is. Chuck has only approved ONE lateral officer. Any others that are hired will be fresh out of school.