Baltierra, Lawrence respond to Grand Jury report

Blah and chip must have a problem with this type of reasoning?

Questions wrote:

OHD and I am not the person you just replied to so please dont mistake me for that person.

Okay, Questions......look at the ISPs and please see what I am saying. Makes everyone look bad now doesn't it?

Old Hound Dog wrote:

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That is the only issue you took out of my blog? How would anyone know it was not you, think about that! You do not have a regular sign in name, you are not registered on Topix. Everyone else is changing their names to fit their needs to do these things. I, Paradise Gal, Song Dog, Laughing Dog, Bad Dawg, Good Dog and even Beguile has signed in to let people know that we are who we say we are.
Others then ping their ISP from the same area as you, so who knows for sure?
What about the other points of my blog? Will you answer those questions?

I do not make a lifestyle or habit out of blogging. As a matter of fact, I had never even been on one or knew anything about them until just recently when all of this came up regarding PPD. This is all very new to me and I do not care to make it a regular thing. I find it to be more destructive than constructive. For the most part, I find it to be a very hostile environment (at least for this subject matter). For that reason, I have never bothered to register, however whenever I reply to someone and respond to their reply, I always use the same "name".

Yes, you and Paradise Gal, and the Dogs registered, however you still keep your identity unknown. So why is that any different than the way I have chosen to keep my identity unknown?

Did I address all the questions you wanted to me address?

Questions wrote:

OHD and I am not the person you just replied to so please dont mistake me for that person.

Okay, Questions......you must surely see what I mean about who is who here and what is what and who is saying what. I don't care if the people sign in anonymous, I believe in the First Amendment and people protecting their rights to do so, but there is no accountability for who says what when all you have is an ISP to distinguish you. Think about that!

Old Hound Dog wrote:

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I am amazed at how when I ask questions, my questions go ignored. I will post my questions again:
How many citizens does it take to suffer from excessive force or police brutality or having their Constitutional Rights violated for you to concede to the fact that your protected PPD has a problem? HOW MANY CITIZENS QUALIFY?
Is one citizen okay by your standards? Two citizens or maybe 10 citizens is okay for them to be used as an avenue for excessive force or brutality to be bestowed upon them.
I am not going to answer questions when I do not have the same opportunity to have my questions answered.

Only one citizen! There should be zero tolerance for excessive force or brutality in law enforcement.

To OHD wrote:

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Yes, you and Paradise Gal, and the Dogs registered, however you still keep your identity unknown. So why is that any different than the way I have chosen to keep my identity unknown?
Did I address all the questions you wanted to me address?

Well at least you know that they are the ones posting and not someone else in the threads. If you disagree then you can at least direct that toward them.

No, my questions have still not been answered.

Old Hound Dog wrote:

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Well at least you know that they are the ones posting and not someone else in the threads. If you disagree then you can at least direct that toward them.
No, my questions have still not been answered.

Which questions did I miss?

Old Hound Dog wrote:

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I am amazed at how when I ask questions, my questions go ignored. I will post my questions again:
How many citizens does it take to suffer from excessive force or police brutality or having their Constitutional Rights violated for you to concede to the fact that your protected PPD has a problem? HOW MANY CITIZENS QUALIFY?
Is one citizen okay by your standards? Two citizens or maybe 10 citizens is okay for them to be used as an avenue for excessive force or brutality to be bestowed upon them.
I am not going to answer questions when I do not have the same opportunity to have my questions answered.

I am not the person you were originally posting to. I am a different person (I know, I know I have a chico ISP)

To whomever wrote:

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I only see a very "exclusive" group, not welcoming in others, being very secretive and doing their best to destroy PPD. I wished I could believe you are not anti-cop but I haven't seen anything to prove otherwise. Perhaps you can change my mind at the meeting tomorrow.

Once again I will post this for this person in above quoted post, who blogged this statement to answer:

How many citizens does it take to suffer from excessive force or police brutality or having their Constitutional Rights violated for you to concede to the fact that your protected PPD has a problem? HOW MANY CITIZENS QUALIFY?

Is one citizen okay by your standards? Two citizens or maybe 10 citizens is okay for them to be used as an avenue for excessive force or brutality to be bestowed upon them.

Sorry OHD I was wanting to know the answer too. So, I copied it for you, without your permission. You weren't coming back on the site and I thought it was a good question.

I'm still here. I haven't gone anywhere. I just was not going to respond to another question asked when that blogger knew full well, they did not answer my question.

Shirley Moore answered the question, but is not the person I asked. The blogger that proclaims that the CCOP is trying to destroy the PPD did not answer the question. That person needs to "own" their own voice.

Old Hound Dog wrote:

I'm still here. I haven't gone anywhere. I just was not going to respond to another question asked when that blogger knew full well, they did not answer my question.
Shirley Moore answered the question, but is not the person I asked. The blogger that proclaims that the CCOP is trying to destroy the PPD did not answer the question. That person needs to "own" their own voice.

I am not the blogger in post 284 "To Whomever". I dont know who that person is. I asked the questions regarding the CCOP's intentions. If you read up a bit they did ask you what questions they missed in post 309.

Okay, now I am going to go and have a nice supper with my lovely wife. So, I will not be watching the blogs. So, if you want to copy and post things I have posted, I won't be here to catch you. However, you can not claim to be me. I am a member of Topix forum. That is for security reasons. Thank you.

Old Hound Dog wrote:

I'm still here. I haven't gone anywhere. I just was not going to respond to another question asked when that blogger knew full well, they did not answer my question.
Shirley Moore answered the question, but is not the person I asked. The blogger that proclaims that the CCOP is trying to destroy the PPD did not answer the question. That person needs to "own" their own voice.

Sorry, after reading the posts I realized that the question was addressed to me. You are right, it does get confusing. My answer is zero.

Quote: "My answer is zero." Is that an answer? What kind of an answer is zero? How about, evasive is the answer. You are very good at asking questions, but why is it you never give answers?

shirley moore wrote:

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Only one citizen! There should be zero tolerance for excessive force or brutality in law enforcement.

Now if only city officials
would agree the community could be a relatively
safe place to live. Your sentiment is praisworthy.

Old Hound Dog wrote:

Okay, now I am going to go and have a nice supper with my lovely wife. So, I will not be watching the blogs. So, if you want to copy and post things I have posted, I won't be here to catch you. However, you can not claim to be me. I am a member of Topix forum. That is for security reasons. Thank you.

Hope your wife cherishes the honor of having dinner with such an endearing old dog. Thanks for doing such a fine job on the PR for the CCOP. TC

Remember, there are still cases pending. "It's not over till the fat lady sings."

not over wrote:

Remember, there are still cases pending. "It's not over till the fat lady sings."

for the reminder to remember it's
not over yet. Been a long dark tunnel but still
have the hope to believe there's a glorious light
ahead. Have always been a dreamer and a visionary!

So Paradise girl is actually Robin Huffman. A Town of Paradise Councilmen. surprise !