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12 arrested in L.A. welfare fraud

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#24
Jul 25, 2008
 
Welfare solutions wrote:
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I read somewhere that it take about $9 in taxes to provide $1 in welfare benefits. Some tickle down waste that is. I think that welfare workers who allow fraud to occur should be responsible to pay the government back for their inadequacy to perform their fiduciary duties as welfare employees.
Reward system should be in place. People who turn in those committing welfare fraud should be entitles to half the amount saved in one year as an incentive. It's a win-win situation; the government saves money in the first year and each year thereafter, and the whistle blower finds a new source of revenue.
I say this after observing people in the grocery store buying luxury foods with the food stamp card (they are not required to show ID to use the card) then they exit the store only to enter their BMW's or Benzes. Something is definitely wrong with that picture.
To add to the discussion, those receiving welfare monies from the state should be obligated to perform some sort of community service in return. That way, their dignity will remain intact and the public won't be so infuriated because welfare recipients will be earning their keep.
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#25
Jul 25, 2008
 
How much for the Escalade?

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#26
Jul 25, 2008
 
Don't give someone a fish teach them TO fish, don't give someone a loaf of bread, teach them HOW to bake. As long as we don't require those that take public assistance to learn how to take care of their self we are going to continue to have these problems. No one should get welfare for more than 4 years, that is time enough to learn to support yourself. It should be understood when appling for welfare that having additional children will not increase you income and women that apply for welfare should be required to give the names of the father(s) of their children. Failure to supply that information will result in not being approved for aid. All applacant must be fingerprinted, photograghed and all Soc.Sec.#'s of mothers and all children checked to be sure the #'s are vaild. The idea that anyone can just walk into a welfare office and walk out with aid is down right stupid. Not only stupid but completely irresponsible. The taxpayers don't mind giving a hand up but it needs to lead to the receiver learning to take care of themselves, so one day they can help give a hand up to someone else. The taxpayer should not be responsible to support someone for life.
JUST ONE PERSONS OPINION!!!!
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Jul 25, 2008
 
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Where in the article mentins "Illegals"?, only two spanish surnames, and it does not specify their citizenship
You know EXACTLY what is meant by "illegal", either in or out of the story, Poco! Illegal immigration from anywhere in the world is turning the USA into a dirt floor, Third World country.
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#29
Jul 25, 2008
 
illegals, these are lazy america blacks and whites, at least illegals are willing to work
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#30
Jul 25, 2008
 
Paddy wrote:
<quoted text>You know EXACTLY what is meant by "illegal", either in or out of the story, Poco! Illegal immigration from anywhere in the world is turning the USA into a dirt floor, Third World country.
especially them freakin canadians. they steal jobs and undermine our economy by acting like they are americans.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
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Well it doesnt sound to me as if they are commiting a crime!! Obviously, this person is trying to do something with their life. Unlike others that are receiving all this and dont try to work or at least go to school!! C'mon, stop hating on this person.
There are 3 adults and6 kids living in a section 8 apartment. All the adults work and 1 owns a small business. Three teenagers also work and do not go to school. They receive welfare for kids who's dads are in jail and some are supposedly in Mexico. One father is here illegally and working and paying child support. They all get food stamps. This is 3 adult women milking the system. They get away with this with fake SS#. Obtained in Huntington Park. Not to mention free medical and dental. I am not friends with them. I know all this because I used to work with one, and know of 1 SS# she stole out of our office from a former employee. I am not jealous! I have always followed the law and have worked hard to get what I have. Not like these people. It sounds like you could be one of them. Watch out!
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#32
Jul 25, 2008
 
no namer wrote:
illegals, these are lazy america blacks and whites, at least illegals are willing to work
Then why aren't they willing to work for better change in their own countries? Now that's lazy.
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#33
Jul 25, 2008
 
The one who owns the business is the one getting all the free stuff. The one father who is here illegal does work and pays his ex child support even though she has claimed she receives no money from him because he is in Mexico. He is afraid not to pay her. She has threatened to turn him in if he doesn't.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
CJJ wrote:
<quoted text>There are 3 adults and6 kids living in a section 8 apartment. All the adults work and 1 owns a small business. Three teenagers also work and do not go to school. They receive welfare for kids who's dads are in jail and some are supposedly in Mexico. One father is here illegally and working and paying child support. They all get food stamps. This is 3 adult women milking the system. They get away with this with fake SS#. Obtained in Huntington Park. Not to mention free medical and dental. I am not friends with them. I know all this because I used to work with one, and know of 1 SS# she stole out of our office from a former employee. I am not jealous! I have always followed the law and have worked hard to get what I have. Not like these people. It sounds like you could be one of them. Watch out!
That's what I call a travesty of justice. People who follow and obey the law work to support law-breakers who steal benefits. And for a real slap in the face, those fraudsters laugh at your honesty.
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#36
Jul 25, 2008
 
Kim Johnson, James Earl Brown, Jacqueline Hervey,
Janice Devon Jones, Lee Arthur McPhearson.

And right from post #1 (literally), it's the illegals causing the problem. I love it.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
CJJ wrote:
<quoted text>There are 3 adults and6 kids living in a section 8 apartment. All the adults work and 1 owns a small business. Three teenagers also work and do not go to school. They receive welfare for kids who's dads are in jail and some are supposedly in Mexico. One father is here illegally and working and paying child support. They all get food stamps. This is 3 adult women milking the system. They get away with this with fake SS#. Obtained in Huntington Park. Not to mention free medical and dental. I am not friends with them. I know all this because I used to work with one, and know of 1 SS# she stole out of our office from a former employee. I am not jealous! I have always followed the law and have worked hard to get what I have. Not like these people. It sounds like you could be one of them. Watch out!
No sweetie!! Thank god I am not lazy. I am a single parent of 4 kids, and I do have a really good job. I do not depend on you or anyone elses taxes to pay my way. If I was on welfare, I would not be able to afford anything, I probably be sitting at home gossiping and hating on everyone else who has a job and a life, u know!! Not me, I have always been independent. So, you were probably stealing from your job too, and you were probably on welfare as well!! humm!! Oh by the way, next time b more specific!!
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#38
Jul 25, 2008
 
CJJ wrote:
The one who owns the business is the one getting all the free stuff. The one father who is here illegal does work and pays his ex child support even though she has claimed she receives no money from him because he is in Mexico. He is afraid not to pay her. She has threatened to turn him in if he doesn't.
why does it bother you so bad?? it sounds to me as if you have something to do with this father!! Oh watch out, all of a sudden you care, whatever!!
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#39
Jul 25, 2008
 
I wonder when we, the taxpayers will be reimbursed? I wonder when our checks will be in the mail?
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Jul 25, 2008
 
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Then why aren't they willing to work for better change in their own countries? Now that's lazy.
Exactly. why are they using all that "energy" in their own country? Hellooooo??? and stats show only 2 percent are picking crops. What are the others doing that's so hard? Selling dope is easy.
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#41
Jul 25, 2008
 
what wrote:
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why does it bother you so bad?? it sounds to me as if you have something to do with this father!! Oh watch out, all of a sudden you care, whatever!!
"What"....it sounds like you too are collecting. Why does it bother YOU so much why she wants to report something illegal? Do you pay taxes? It should bother you too! Oh....I see....you Dont pay taxes that are paying these people who commit fraud.
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#42
Jul 25, 2008
 
Anyone who pays taxes should be offended...no outraged...by those who knowing steal benefits vs. obtaining benefits illegally.

Turn them in.
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#43
Jul 25, 2008
 
knowing should be knowingly.

illegally should be legally.

Da*m flying fingers work before my brain spells correctly. ;-)
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#44
Jul 25, 2008
 
Wow. This is truly sad for the disabled and elderly who really need the help. It makes the workers even more suspicious of someone truly in need that have come in and applied for benifets.
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#46
Jul 25, 2008
 
our system is based on the honesty of people.....was he kidding, or just plain stupid, or does he have his head up his .a.s.s.?

12, 12....there are thousands of fraudulent cases...and they got 12....i guess i should say it's good to start somewhere.....but i wonder how much money it cost us, and will cost us, to find and bring the 12 to justice.

but is anyone really surprised, i mean, come one......the government just hands out money. of course people are going to milk the system. that's the problem with handing out money!!

and it's the democrats who don't want them fingerprinted....because, giving some validation to the one poster who said it takes $9 to give a $1, well, the more money demies can claim we need to feed the "needy and poor", the bigger the govnmnt and the happier they are taking other people's money and trying to control our lives.

bravo!
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