Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652537 May 28, 2012
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>When is the last time you looked at a pay stub? Hard working citizens are not paying less taxes,they are contributing less to social security. The only people that are paying less taxes are the ones that are making less money. Obama didn't lower taxes,he extended Bush tax cuts until after the election. Hopefully Romney will lower taxes before the Clinton tax rates return in 2013. Obama had planned to raise taxes considerably after the election,he can raise taxes in Chicago when he returns to his corrupt Tony Rezko home.
the clinton tax tables need to return. the difference is negligible.
cway

United States

#652538 May 28, 2012
the westerner wrote:
<quoted text>
Hilarious, are you an out of work comic?
Just who has defined nuclear energy as "green"?
How much pollution do nuclear power plants release into the atmosphere?

Answer: None.
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652539 May 28, 2012
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text> You birfers are sick in the head beyond repair. If I were President Obama, I'd never release anything, just because you're all so disgustingly disrespectful of this President.
ppl were disgustingly disrespectful of our last prez. who cares whether this one is disrespected.
the time of respecting world leaders has long passed.

“wisdom”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#652540 May 28, 2012
cway wrote:
<quoted text>
First, summarize the book's points.
Giving me a book title and an unsupported conclusion doesn't cut it.
The only credit I'll give you is that Hayak's book is well-regarded. That doesn't necessarily mean it stands as gospel, but most acknowledge it has good ideas in it.
I agree with one of Hayek's main points, which is the nature of collective planning. Unfortunately for your argument, Democrats don't support collective planning. In general we believe in a free market system.
Where Democrats get bent out of shape is when Wall Street attempts to corrupt the free market with monopoly practices or even outright scams.
Hayek did not account for how the market can be manipulated even in the capitalist model.
Serfdom was something which existed in the Middle Ages long before communism. I don't think you can make the argument that the medieval lords and barons who presided over that system were "communists". They certainly didn't believe in a classless society. They were slave drivers, pure and simple
Economic serfdom can exist under the capitalist model as well. Until Franklin Roosevelt took office and instituted things like minimum wage and made unions legal, the average blue collar worker was paid slave wages. The American middle class was very small.
I once again challenge you to describe in specific terms what these "worms of socialism" are. You might even let the original poster try to defend his ideas, rather than desperately jumping in to help.
More and more welfare and government giveaways, now estimated at $500 billion a year, some call it "socialism".

Not true about FDR and "slave wages" Henry Ford paid his workers a very adequate salary, they could even afford his cars.
People could have stayed on their farms, like they had been doing for millenia, no one forced them to apply for manufacturing jobs..
cway

United States

#652541 May 28, 2012
the westerner wrote:
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Yes, we do need a more appropriate term for what Brokeback BO and the dems have in mind. I nominate the term "fleabagging" to denote wealth redistribution and rewarding sloth..
Monopolies? How about the public school teachers?
Well, touche on public employee unions.

As for wealth redistribution, someone explain to me why giving to the poor is morally wrong. Should we worship greed instead?

If the American people hate welfare so much, they are always free to do away with it by their vote.

I might add, there's such a thing as wealth redistribution to the wealthy. Such as Bush and Cheney's unnecessary war in Iraq which enriched Haliburton and the armaments industries with taxpayer dollars.

I don't hear Republicans complaining about that.

“wisdom”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#652542 May 28, 2012
cway wrote:
<quoted text>
How much pollution do nuclear power plants release into the atmosphere?
Answer: None.
OK, so you and BO , when it's convenient to claim it's "green", I don't think that is going to persuade many of us.
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652543 May 28, 2012
Adam wrote:
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For anyone to be so clueless or hate filled as to actually think or believe that a persons political beliefs determine their degree of love and loyality to country is far more a sad reflection on your lack of character than theirs. Especially since the mind set of conservatives is far more detrimental to the well being of our military men and women, as proven by the facts from the last administration.
u chastise a person for judging loyalty by political beliefs and do the same urself all in the same post.
shrub wasnt the best prez 4 our military but beats johnson no doubt.
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652544 May 28, 2012
cway wrote:
<quoted text>
How much pollution do nuclear power plants release into the atmosphere?
Answer: None.
release of low level waste into local waters? thousands of gallons.
cway

United States

#652545 May 28, 2012
azazel wrote:
<quoted text>
ppl were disgustingly disrespectful of our last prez. who cares whether this one is disrespected.
the time of respecting world leaders has long passed.
It was contempt richly deserved.

The Republicans stole the 2000 election. Gore was entitled to a recount under Florida State law and never got it. Later, it was discovered the state secretary had purged thousands of legitimate voters off the rolls.

Bush and Cheney lied us into an unnecessary war in Iraq.

They encouraged the military to torture prisoners, the majority of whom were not captured insurgents, but people randomly rounded up for curfew violations, etc.

Bush also approved NSA mass surveilance of the public in violation of existing FISA laws.

Those who criticized the administration for its war in Iraq were labeled as "giving aid and comfort to the enemy". In other words, traitors.

In short, the Bush administration did everything possible to enrage the opposition.
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652546 May 28, 2012
ImRight59 wrote:
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They pay way more..........
You think somebody who is "rich" should pay 50%? 70%??
How much is enough for a liberal?
And who is the "rich" anyway? Anybody who has a job? A house?
Owns a small business?
ur well aware of the 1%. its not how much is good enough for a liberal its about our country.
during the same time frame people were losing their homes 401ks and everything else the top percentile was reporting a 3 to 4 % gain every year.
this seems right how?
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652547 May 28, 2012
cway wrote:
<quoted text>
It was contempt richly deserved.
The Republicans stole the 2000 election. Gore was entitled to a recount under Florida State law and never got it. Later, it was discovered the state secretary had purged thousands of legitimate voters off the rolls.
Bush and Cheney lied us into an unnecessary war in Iraq.
They encouraged the military to torture prisoners, the majority of whom were not captured insurgents, but people randomly rounded up for curfew violations, etc.
Bush also approved NSA mass surveilance of the public in violation of existing FISA laws.
Those who criticized the administration for its war in Iraq were labeled as "giving aid and comfort to the enemy". In other words, traitors.
In short, the Bush administration did everything possible to enrage the opposition.
dont agree on the stolen election. gore drama queen bs.
iraq and afghanistan were both bs wars. neither country attacked us.
torture is inexcusable but its been used for years by all sides. this wont change not right but wont change. btw obama has okd the murder without due process of US citizens on foreign soil.
once a senator obama voted for the patriot act renewal and voted for it as prez. many other invasive laws passed during his tenure. blaming shrub doesnt fly anymore.
obama admin has done no less to inflame and enrage. different name same president.
cway

United States

#652548 May 28, 2012
the westerner wrote:
<quoted text>
Not true about FDR and "slave wages" Henry Ford paid his workers a very adequate salary, they could even afford his cars.
Only in the beginning when cars were built by a small number of specialists. And that was hardly representative of blue collar wages in general.

As Ford went to an assembly line system, that changed.

When the auto workers began to unionize, Ford's response was to repress them with hired thugs led by his chief goon, Harry Bennett, an ex-Navy boxer.
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652549 May 28, 2012
Adam wrote:
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It appears as though you don't understand that the rich pay a far less percentage of their income than do the average working man, it has little to do with the amount. Your programmed support for the rich is duely noted. Although your understanding is lacking. No one is asking them to pay any higher percentage than anyone else, just the same, the Bush tax break for them has created nothing but the rich getting richer. Clinton taxed the rich and the nation prospered. " BOTH ARE FACTS"
the tax breaks became the bush/obama tax breaks once he extended them however corp tax breaks go a lot farther back than simply obama or bush.
cway

United States

#652550 May 28, 2012
azazel wrote:
<quoted text>
release of low level waste into local waters? thousands of gallons.
What low level waste?

A nuclear pile inside a power plant simply heats water to steam, which in turn drives a turbine.
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652551 May 28, 2012
finding wrote:
<quoted text>This adminastration is try ing get rid of the owners of companies, then there will be no jobs, they we will bow down to nobommie,as we pray to alla, with our head on floor buts in the air. Sad part of this story no one cares, wake up voters, we can make a change and this time it will be a change for the better .
corps were moving their industrial hubs and factories before obama became prez. it started prior to bush. so who do u blame now?
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652552 May 28, 2012
cway wrote:
<quoted text>
What low level waste?
A nuclear pile inside a power plant simply heats water to steam, which in turn drives a turbine.
according to the nrc low level waste is contained on site until deemed decayed then either dumped in landfills or released into local waterways. either method hits your groundwater.
not arguing against nuke plants realistically our lone option.
never did answer my question re the paki doc.
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652553 May 28, 2012
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Translation:
"Those white guys are alright. We want to know about the n****r"
atypical response racist inference.
if obamas medical college and other records arent readily available as is the case with past presidents ppl have the right to question why without being called racist.
have u figured out oral sex is sex yet? from ur romney size remark maybe u have?
cway

United States

#652554 May 28, 2012
azazel wrote:
<quoted text>
dont agree on the stolen election. gore drama queen bs.
It's not BS if the Republican secretary of state purged thousands of eligible voters off the rolls in a race Bush "won" by just over 500 votes.
iraq and afghanistan were both bs wars. neither country attacked us.
Iraq, yes. But regarding Afghanistan, if you feel Bin Laden was behind 9-11, the Taliban become complicit by sheltering him.
torture is inexcusable but its been used for years by all sides. this wont change not right but wont change.
Two wrongs don't make a right. And it must change or we are no longer a civilized nation.
btw obama has okd the murder without due process of US citizens on foreign soil.
Indeed. Care to elaborate on that?
once a senator obama voted for the patriot act renewal and voted for it as prez. many other invasive laws passed during his tenure. blaming shrub doesnt fly anymore.
Blaming shrub still flies. But now Obama is complicit as well. Give yourself a point.
obama admin has done no less to inflame and enrage. different name same president.
I disagree. The Republicans have been rabid and over the top since Obama took office. Congressman Joe Wilson yelled "You Liar" at him within three months of being sworn in. Since when did any Democrat do the same with Bush?

Add to this the tea baggers marching about with portraits of Obama wearing a Swastika. Or portrayed as Stalin. Blaming the guy for Bush's recession. It's all sheer hatred without much foundation.

Obama didn't steal the 2008 election. He didn't lie us into an unnecessary war. Hasn't raised taxes or taken away anyone's guns.
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652555 May 28, 2012
moshx wrote:
<quoted text> unlike Obama,Bush and the others you listed seem to have nothing to hide and you can look up and research their records.
regardless of pedigree,why do you support obama , a blatant treasonous bastard?
have to ask why u blame a prez for anything. everyone knows the prez hasnt run our country for decades.
the puppet strings r wrapped tightly around our congress senate and presidency.
azazel

Spring Lake, NC

#652556 May 28, 2012
cway wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not BS if the Republican secretary of state purged thousands of eligible voters off the rolls in a race Bush "won" by just over 500 votes.
<quoted text>
Iraq, yes. But regarding Afghanistan, if you feel Bin Laden was behind 9-11, the Taliban become complicit by sheltering him.
<quoted text>
Two wrongs don't make a right. And it must change or we are no longer a civilized nation.
<quoted text>
Indeed. Care to elaborate on that?
<quoted text>
Blaming shrub still flies. But now Obama is complicit as well. Give yourself a point.
<quoted text>
I disagree. The Republicans have been rabid and over the top since Obama took office. Congressman Joe Wilson yelled "You Liar" at him within three months of being sworn in. Since when did any Democrat do the same with Bush?
Add to this the tea baggers marching about with portraits of Obama wearing a Swastika. Or portrayed as Stalin. Blaming the guy for Bush's recession. It's all sheer hatred without much foundation.
Obama didn't steal the 2008 election. He didn't lie us into an unnecessary war. Hasn't raised taxes or taken away anyone's guns.
this scenario has happened before. thousands of overseas votes lost during obamas election. not seeing a difference here.
the afghanis were left hanging by the US in their fight against the taliban. the afghanis didnt attack us. bad fight.
torture will continue until morale improves. jokes aside torture will continue we as a nation r no better or worse. as i already stated not right but its the way it is.
do ur own homework look it up.
i dont do points.
bush had his share of vocal detractors. neither side shows any class.
shrub was depicted wearing a swastika also. so what.
obama has his fair share of lies. no prez is fault or guilt free.
what do you know of obamas once closest members Geither paulson for example. obama lives in a glass house.
no obama hasnt taken guns in fact he basically gave them to mexican cartels.
why did he sell out the paki?
btw what role did clinton play in the banking debacle?

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