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11-01-05 Kelsey's OCCY Report

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Thursday Nov 5
 
She must have learned (or is it taught) that technique from Sue- posting the same thing multiple times does not make it more true. She got the answer to her question but insists on re-posting on the same page.

If you are curious about the book Badge, go to the website and find out. The same way anyone else is able to, and decide for yourself if you want to read it, the same way anyone else can.

I do have to laugh at the use of 'we' in her comment.'We' can read, and 'we' can decide for 'ourselves'.

“The truth will come out.”

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So, tell us again who's book this is, I am not sure we caught that. Anyone interested in this book might want to know who is claiming it, writing it, the narrators and the publisher and will anyone other than the proclaimed "authors" profit. Is this Kathie's or Lance's book? We know you claim it's content valid and truthful, is it a biased account? Thanks in advance.
the book is co-written by the reporter who ruined raye dawn's trial by spreading lies to the public.

“The truth will come out.”

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She must have learned (or is it taught) that technique from Sue- posting the same thing multiple times does not make it more true. She got the answer to her question but insists on re-posting on the same page.
If you are curious about the book Badge, go to the website and find out. The same way anyone else is able to, and decide for yourself if you want to read it, the same way anyone else can.
I do have to laugh at the use of 'we' in her comment.'We' can read, and 'we' can decide for 'ourselves'.
Kelsey's Purpose signs

were put at the entry of our neighborhood

with Channel Four's

Cherokee Ballard there,

as it was aired on the evening news.

All of this was handed over to the District Attorney,

Richard Smothermon, but not one thing was ever done about it.

Protests took place

in front of the District Attorney's office with signs stating,

"No Deals For Raye Dawn".

A petition was even done in order

to keep my son away from me when he was born.

My son is absolutely no business of Kathie Briggs.

There was even a petition to bring charges against me,

even though I was working with the District Attorney's office to the fullest extent.

There were no protests or petitions about Mike Porter recieving a deal,
or about keeping my son away from him -

the person whom murdered and sexually assaulted her granddaughter on October 11, 2005.

In fact, the Briggs family agreed to
the plea bargain of murder and sexual
assault being dropped
and to him pleading to "Enabling Child Abuse".

District Attorney Richard Smothermon

exhumed my baby's body

to look for sexual assault

and then he turned around and dropped it!

Do you have any idea what I went through when

I was told they were going to do that?

Let me tell you,

it almost killed me knowing they were going

to disturb my daughter's resting place
and it will bother me for the rest of my life,

even more because now I know they did it for NO reason.

http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....

this is from raye dawn, who is not lawyer, no reporter, but is not a abuser of anyone.
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#26
Thursday Nov 5
 
YaMeVoy wrote:
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the book is co-written by the reporter who ruined raye dawn's trial by spreading lies to the public.
Where was Kelsey when she was murdered? With her mother. whokilledkelsey.com
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YaMeVoy wrote:
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Kelsey's Purpose signs
were put at the entry of our neighborhood
with Channel Four's
Cherokee Ballard there,
as it was aired on the evening news.
All of this was handed over to the District Attorney,
Richard Smothermon, but not one thing was ever done about it.
Protests took place
in front of the District Attorney's office with signs stating,
"No Deals For Raye Dawn".
A petition was even done in order
to keep my son away from me when he was born.
My son is absolutely no business of Kathie Briggs.
There was even a petition to bring charges against me,
even though I was working with the District Attorney's office to the fullest extent.
There were no protests or petitions about Mike Porter recieving a deal,
or about keeping my son away from him -
the person whom murdered and sexually assaulted her granddaughter on October 11, 2005.
In fact, the Briggs family agreed to
the plea bargain of murder and sexual
assault being dropped
and to him pleading to "Enabling Child Abuse".
District Attorney Richard Smothermon
exhumed my baby's body
to look for sexual assault
and then he turned around and dropped it!
Do you have any idea what I went through when
I was told they were going to do that?
Let me tell you,
it almost killed me knowing they were going
to disturb my daughter's resting place
and it will bother me for the rest of my life,
even more because now I know they did it for NO reason.
http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....
this is from raye dawn, who is not lawyer, no reporter, but is not a abuser of anyone.
No, that was not from Raye Dawn. That was from J.O.
what about

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#28
Thursday Nov 5
 
YaMeVoy wrote:
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Kelsey's Purpose signs
were put at the entry of our neighborhood
with Channel Four's
Cherokee Ballard there,
as it was aired on the evening news.
All of this was handed over to the District Attorney,
Richard Smothermon, but not one thing was ever done about it.
Protests took place
in front of the District Attorney's office with signs stating,
"No Deals For Raye Dawn".
A petition was even done in order
to keep my son away from me when he was born.
My son is absolutely no business of Kathie Briggs.
There was even a petition to bring charges against me,
even though I was working with the District Attorney's office to the fullest extent.
There were no protests or petitions about Mike Porter recieving a deal,
or about keeping my son away from him -
the person whom murdered and sexually assaulted her granddaughter on October 11, 2005.
In fact, the Briggs family agreed to
the plea bargain of murder and sexual
assault being dropped
and to him pleading to "Enabling Child Abuse".
District Attorney Richard Smothermon
exhumed my baby's body
to look for sexual assault
and then he turned around and dropped it!
Do you have any idea what I went through when
I was told they were going to do that?
Let me tell you,
it almost killed me knowing they were going
to disturb my daughter's resting place
and it will bother me for the rest of my life,
even more because now I know they did it for NO reason.
http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....
this is from raye dawn, who is not lawyer, no reporter, but is not a abuser of anyone.
I will say we agree on one thing and one thing only she couldn't have recieved a fair and balanced trial. Do not get me wrong from what I have read she seems guilty of at least facillitation of child abuse. That said there is no way she recieved a fair trial, there were too many people who knew the ins and outs of this case for it to be fair. It was too public to hold it so close to home. At the very least she should recieve another trial somewhere the jurors can not be biased. Then she can be convicted fairly. I do believe she is guilty though.
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Thursday Nov 5
 
The last time that Raye Dawn Smith spoke for herself was when she was in court, after sentencing. She screamed out,"I don't understand!" Did Kelsey understand when she was being beaten to death? whokilledkelsey.com
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#30
Friday Nov 6
 
KelseysVoice wrote:
The last time that Raye Dawn Smith spoke for herself was when she was in court, after sentencing. She screamed out,"I don't understand!" Did Kelsey understand when she was being beaten to death? whokilledkelsey.com
you who ruined Kelsey's memory forum with your ugly thoughts.
at least you and the devil work hard.
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Friday Nov 6
 
concerned for children wrote:
Great answer 4 the children, Thank you since badge has posted the same nonsence of every thread.
Thank you.
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Sunday Nov 8
 
yaMeVoy wrote:
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you who ruined Kelsey's memory forum with your ugly thoughts.
at least you and the devil work hard.
Ugly thoughts? Ugly thoughts? I'm supposed to feel benevolent toward Raye Dawn Smith, child murderer? You wrong Kelsey every day you continue to post lies supporting Raye. You know what, nothing could ruin Kelsey's memory, because she was beautiful inside and out, though God knows you've tried. The Devil works in you, each time you try to put words of hate in the mouth of a child filled with light and love. I never said Kelsey didn't love her mother. She loved everyone, may God bless her. whokilledkelsey.com
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Sunday Nov 8
 
YaMeVoy wrote:
<quoted text>
Kelsey's Purpose signs
were put at the entry of our neighborhood
with Channel Four's
Cherokee Ballard there,
as it was aired on the evening news.
All of this was handed over to the District Attorney,
Richard Smothermon, but not one thing was ever done about it.
Protests took place
in front of the District Attorney's office with signs stating,
"No Deals For Raye Dawn".
A petition was even done in order
to keep my son away from me when he was born.
My son is absolutely no business of Kathie Briggs.
There was even a petition to bring charges against me,
even though I was working with the District Attorney's office to the fullest extent.
There were no protests or petitions about Mike Porter recieving a deal,
or about keeping my son away from him -
the person whom murdered and sexually assaulted her granddaughter on October 11, 2005.
In fact, the Briggs family agreed to
the plea bargain of murder and sexual
assault being dropped
and to him pleading to "Enabling Child Abuse".
District Attorney Richard Smothermon
exhumed my baby's body
to look for sexual assault
and then he turned around and dropped it!
Do you have any idea what I went through when
I was told they were going to do that?
Let me tell you,
it almost killed me knowing they were going
to disturb my daughter's resting place
and it will bother me for the rest of my life,
even more because now I know they did it for NO reason.
http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....
this is from raye dawn, who is not lawyer, no reporter, but is not a abuser of anyone.
More lies from someone who appears to be physically unable to being honest. NO ONE DROPPED KELSEY'S BODY. Raye beat her to death, though.
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KelseysVoice wrote:
<quoted text>Ugly thoughts? Ugly thoughts? I'm supposed to feel benevolent toward Raye Dawn Smith, child murderer? You wrong Kelsey every day you continue to post lies supporting Raye. You know what, nothing could ruin Kelsey's memory, because she was beautiful inside and out, though God knows you've tried. The Devil works in you, each time you try to put words of hate in the mouth of a child filled with light and love. I never said Kelsey didn't love her mother. She loved everyone, may God bless her. whokilledkelsey.com
we are talking about good memories of kelsey. or good memories of you and kelsey. not your ugly hate of a traumatized mommy. what part of the post is a lie, because I do not see what you see. and even if she did lie, she is not lying about you and puttin you in jail for life.
I do know for a fact that lies have been told to the media, and the media ruined her impartial juries.
and you lie about me, maybe not you because I cannot keep track of you nameless ones, nor do I want to.
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#36
Monday Nov 9
 
Sue, let's cut the crap. Abbie told you exactly what my name is. I do appreciate and thank you for not posting it all over the country. There are many good memories of Kelsey. She was a beautiful, amazing little girl. Raye Dawn is none of these. Don't read anything posted on KP, if you don't trust it. There are many links for independent confirmation of what I and many other people have posted. The Briggs may have stirred up a publicity campaign, but they are not in control of the entire state of Oklahoma. Even you have to realize that. You never contacted Kathie Briggs, because you are one of the most memorable people I have ever come across. And as far as I know, Kathie Briggs never brought you up. Do some research, and post your own opinions, instead of copying and pasting. You really are smart enough to do that.
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KelseysVoice wrote:
Sue, let's cut the crap. Abbie told you exactly what my name is. I do appreciate and thank you for not posting it all over the country. There are many good memories of Kelsey. She was a beautiful, amazing little girl. Raye Dawn is none of these. Don't read anything posted on KP, if you don't trust it. There are many links for independent confirmation of what I and many other people have posted. The Briggs may have stirred up a publicity campaign, but they are not in control of the entire state of Oklahoma. Even you have to realize that. You never contacted Kathie Briggs, because you are one of the most memorable people I have ever come across. And as far as I know, Kathie Briggs never brought you up. Do some research, and post your own opinions, instead of copying and pasting. You really are smart enough to do that.
I will post raye dawn's side, with refs.

she deserves to be heard.

I do believe what she says.

I do believe Kelsey has a right to have her true story told.

Raye is not the evil person people say she is.

she does not get in other people's business and

she does not lie and steal peoples' babies,

unlike some kidnappers we know.

disturbing the nest of a child,

just because they can,

putting a sick man dying of cancer to an early grave.

and viciously bullying a grieving family in

the most cruel and unusual way.

Raye Dawn Smith
found guilty by a
jury, not by the
facts. by a prejudiced jury

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#39
Monday Nov 9
 
YaMeVoy wrote:
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the book is co-written by the reporter who ruined raye dawn's trial by spreading lies to the public.
Oh, now it's the reporters fault? Yesterday it was Lance's fault?

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Tuesday Nov 10
 
yaMeVoy wrote:
<quoted text> we are talking about good memories of kelsey. or good memories of you and kelsey. not your ugly hate of a traumatized mommy...
Kelsey's "mommie" is traumatized bececause she was convicted and put in prison. I don't hate Smith, I want JUSTICE. I will work just as hard as you do defening her loser butt so I can make sure she is in prison for her entire current sentence and hopefully longer. Why? Because she killed Kelsey.

Do I have to post a list of every other POS "mommie" that has gone to prisom for THE CRIME enabeling child abuse since this case was tried? Are thy all innocent? DId you know that almost all of them claim they are?

News flash: If Smith had been aquited she would not have given Kelsey another though and by now would probaly have been knocked up at least twice more by two new baby daddies.
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Tuesday Nov 10
 
What Kathie doesn’t want the public
or her supporters to know is that the DHS record does not
show a pattern of abuse by Raye Dawn

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it shows a pattern of her
own deceit and
manipulation
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Judge Craig Key and DHS workers poured
over the records
for countless hours
before Kelsey
was finally returned to her mother in June 2005.
it was Kelsey own voice that they listened to.
and this voice was not heard in the courts, her severe reaction to the briggs with all the visitation at the DHS office with the briggs was not brought out in court.
nor was the eyewitness of who was viciously abusing kelsey, mike's own daughter said this while being afraid her dad will find out.
"thanks to the lies and deception,Did not this child later have overnight visits while porter was out on bail"? sic, sic, but not the first time that happened.
This evidence was not brought up because. it frees raye dawn and all those millions would be lost,
it fact it would bring out the abuse of kelsey and raye by lance and by kathie.

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#42
Tuesday Nov 10
 
yaMeVoy wrote:
it was Kelsey own voice that they listened to.
and this voice was not heard in the courts,
Were any of the Briggs there when Kelsey died? NO.

Why wasn't Kelsey there to be heard? Because Smith and/or Porter killed her.
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yaMeVoy wrote:
What Kathie doesn’t want the public
or her supporters to know is that the DHS record does not
show a pattern of abuse by Raye Dawn
...
it shows a pattern of her
own deceit and
manipulation
...
Judge Craig Key and DHS workers poured
over the records
for countless hours
before Kelsey
was finally returned to her mother in June 2005.
it was Kelsey own voice that they listened to.
and this voice was not heard in the courts, her severe reaction to the briggs with all the visitation at the DHS office with the briggs was not brought out in court.
nor was the eyewitness of who was viciously abusing kelsey, mike's own daughter said this while being afraid her dad will find out.
"thanks to the lies and deception,Did not this child later have overnight visits while porter was out on bail"? sic, sic, but not the first time that happened.
This evidence was not brought up because. it frees raye dawn and all those millions would be lost,
it fact it would bring out the abuse of kelsey and raye by lance and by kathie.
No abuse confirmed against RDS?
Then explain about the bruises found on Kelsey's back and bottom in January of 2005.
Why did DHS get involved to begin with?
Where's the proof of how this happened to Kelsey?
Why would an ER doctor contact DHS if it wasn't abuse?
No one here BUT THE JURY saw the pictures that were taken of Kelsey.
The jury was privy to information AND pictures that NO ONE has seen.
And you call the jury prejudiced?
Against whom?
Whenever there is a death of a child, of course, people DO go crazy and they want justice.
Maybe women should WAKE UP and if they aren't ready to become parents and/or want to hook up with different men who don't like their children, then maybe they should give their children up for adoption instead of abusing and/or watching them being abused to death.
As for the insurance policies, I never heard that the Briggs had 2 policies out on Kelsey. Lance covered Kelsey for dependent life insurance from the military to the sum of $10,000 which is hardly enough to get rich from. As for the other policy, I heard it was from the Smith camp.
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Tuesday Nov 10
 
I just found this in the OCCY Report. This is so very sad. I am going to type this because I can't copy and paste it. Forgive my typos please. This is just some of the excerps from the report.

From Page 26:
The worker reorted the mother had completed her classes. The treatment plan also identified "conditions that need to be corrected," and "desired results." The DHS treatment plan responses are as follows:

Kelsey's parents will be able to protect her from further abuse, emotional, and physical, and be able to demonstrate proper physical care and nurturing of the child.

Kelsey will be free from physical and/or emotional abuse and trauma as seen by the fact that she has no new inflicted injuries and is emotionally bonded to her parents.

It is the opinion of the OSJO that:

Kelsey's parents had not demonstrated an ability to protect Kelsey, nor was Kelsey free from physical and/ or emotional abuse.

The treatment plan had not been completed.
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