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The prosecution failed to prove

that Raye Dawn ever abused Kelsey

as much as they failed

to prove that she ever
"willfully" or
"maliciously"
allowed anyone
to abuse her.

The fact is
there can never be any
real justice
when it comes to
a child's murder.
Their lives are cut short for no purpose.
Yet, when reason fails
in the face of political
and financial gain,
it is not simply
a grieving mother who finds
her life gratuitously destroyed;
it is every citizen
who finds himself or herself
waking in a far more dangerous world,
where freedom is taken for the crimes of another.

http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....
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“You want to play games? You decide!”- Lance Briggs

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Research has shown that an intact and happy home is by far the best scenario for children. Why then did Kelsey’s mother, Raye Dawn, divorce Lance in the first place? Wouldn’t Kelsey seeing her mother and father together have been best? It was a long record of physical and mental abuse that preceded Raye Dawn’s escape. Make no mistake; Lance Briggs is a vicious physical abuser with a long laundry list of offenses.

Lance threw Kelsey’s mother against the wall and choked her with his arm for not “super-sizing his McDonald’s Value Meal.”

Lance reportedly, violently punched the pregnant abdomen of Kelsey’s mother causing a miscarriage in the summer of 2000. Police were called repeatedly during the marriage for assaults on Kelsey’s mother and advised her more than once to get a protective order. Lance pled to assault charges and was court ordered twice to attend anger management classes for his assaults on Kelsey’s mother and later on with girlfriend Marie Larsen. The final blow according to police records came in May, 2002 when Lance threw Kelsey’s mother against the wall and choked her with his arm for not “super-sizing his McDonald’s Value Meal.” What a hero! The injuries to her collar bone and neck were observed and photographed by police. When Kelsey’s mother, Raye Dawn, filed for divorce her pregnancy with Kelsey was so early on she was unaware of it. According to witnesses, Lance repeatedly, and against a temporary relief order, broke into her house and destroyed and stole personal items of hers only to leave them to be found in a nearby field and creek. On one occasion his mother even returned items that had gone missing when Lance claimed to have had no involvement. Yet he kept leaving notes asking her to take him back or threatening,“You want to play games? You decide!

Lance’s second marriage to Ashley Gober was so terrible that the divorce was finalized only one month after the death of Kelsey. However, Lance doesn’t confine this physical and mental abuse to his wife. Lance was arrested just last year for assaulting two women when he broke into a former girlfriend’s house and dragged her by her hair into the front yard and now yet another protective order is in place. Police records reportedly show he even had a loaded gun with him. How many charges and how many protective orders have to be filed before a pattern of violence is established and properly dealt with?

http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....

I think lance not pushing for custody was a plus on his part, had he known that mike was secretly abusing kelsey he would have pushed. but he trusted raye, after all he knew what a loving mommy she was.
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yaMeVoy wrote:
“You want to play games? You decide!”- Lance Briggs
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Research has shown that an intact and happy home is by far the best scenario for children. Why then did Kelsey’s mother, Raye Dawn, divorce Lance in the first place? Wouldn’t Kelsey seeing her mother and father together have been best? It was a long record of physical and mental abuse that preceded Raye Dawn’s escape. Make no mistake; Lance Briggs is a vicious physical abuser with a long laundry list of offenses.
Lance threw Kelsey’s mother against the wall and choked her with his arm for not “super-sizing his McDonald’s Value Meal.”
Lance reportedly, violently punched the pregnant abdomen of Kelsey’s mother causing a miscarriage in the summer of 2000. Police were called repeatedly during the marriage for assaults on Kelsey’s mother and advised her more than once to get a protective order. Lance pled to assault charges and was court ordered twice to attend anger management classes for his assaults on Kelsey’s mother and later on with girlfriend Marie Larsen. The final blow according to police records came in May, 2002 when Lance threw Kelsey’s mother against the wall and choked her with his arm for not “super-sizing his McDonald’s Value Meal.” What a hero! The injuries to her collar bone and neck were observed and photographed by police. When Kelsey’s mother, Raye Dawn, filed for divorce her pregnancy with Kelsey was so early on she was unaware of it. According to witnesses, Lance repeatedly, and against a temporary relief order, broke into her house and destroyed and stole personal items of hers only to leave them to be found in a nearby field and creek. On one occasion his mother even returned items that had gone missing when Lance claimed to have had no involvement. Yet he kept leaving notes asking her to take him back or threatening,“You want to play games? You decide!
Lance’s second marriage to Ashley Gober was so terrible that the divorce was finalized only one month after the death of Kelsey. However, Lance doesn’t confine this physical and mental abuse to his wife. Lance was arrested just last year for assaulting two women when he broke into a former girlfriend’s house and dragged her by her hair into the front yard and now yet another protective order is in place. Police records reportedly show he even had a loaded gun with him. How many charges and how many protective orders have to be filed before a pattern of violence is established and properly dealt with?
http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....
I think lance not pushing for custody was a plus on his part, had he known that mike was secretly abusing kelsey he would have pushed. but he trusted raye, after all he knew what a loving mommy she was.
Where was Kelsey when she was murdered? With her "loving" mommy. whokilledkelsey.com
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yaMeVoy wrote:
The prosecution failed to prove
that Raye Dawn ever abused Kelsey
as much as they failed
to prove that she ever
"willfully" or
"maliciously"
allowed anyone
to abuse her.
The fact is
there can never be any
real justice
when it comes to
a child's murder.
Their lives are cut short for no purpose.
Yet, when reason fails
in the face of political
and financial gain,
it is not simply
a grieving mother who finds
her life gratuitously destroyed;
it is every citizen
who finds himself or herself
waking in a far more dangerous world,
where freedom is taken for the crimes of another.
http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....
Where was Kelsey when she was murdered? With her mother. whokilledkelsey.com
KelseysVoice

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You betrayed yourself with the post that I just responded to, Sue. According to you, Raye never "willfully or maliciously" allowed anyone to abuse Kelsey. So, did she allow it by accident? When Kelsey returned to her in June of 2005, was she suddenly struck blind?
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yaMeVoy wrote:
“You want to play games? You decide!”- Lance Briggs
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Research has shown that an intact and happy home is by far the best scenario for children. Why then did Kelsey’s mother, Raye Dawn, divorce Lance in the first place? Wouldn’t Kelsey seeing her mother and father together have been best? It was a long record of physical and mental abuse that preceded Raye Dawn’s escape. Make no mistake; Lance Briggs is a vicious physical abuser with a long laundry list of offenses.
Lance threw Kelsey’s mother against the wall and choked her with his arm for not “super-sizing his McDonald’s Value Meal.”
Lance reportedly, violently punched the pregnant abdomen of Kelsey’s mother causing a miscarriage in the summer of 2000. Police were called repeatedly during the marriage for assaults on Kelsey’s mother and advised her more than once to get a protective order. Lance pled to assault charges and was court ordered twice to attend anger management classes for his assaults on Kelsey’s mother and later on with girlfriend Marie Larsen. The final blow according to police records came in May, 2002 when Lance threw Kelsey’s mother against the wall and choked her with his arm for not “super-sizing his McDonald’s Value Meal.” What a hero! The injuries to her collar bone and neck were observed and photographed by police. When Kelsey’s mother, Raye Dawn, filed for divorce her pregnancy with Kelsey was so early on she was unaware of it. According to witnesses, Lance repeatedly, and against a temporary relief order, broke into her house and destroyed and stole personal items of hers only to leave them to be found in a nearby field and creek. On one occasion his mother even returned items that had gone missing when Lance claimed to have had no involvement. Yet he kept leaving notes asking her to take him back or threatening,“You want to play games? You decide!
Lance’s second marriage to Ashley Gober was so terrible that the divorce was finalized only one month after the death of Kelsey. However, Lance doesn’t confine this physical and mental abuse to his wife. Lance was arrested just last year for assaulting two women when he broke into a former girlfriend’s house and dragged her by her hair into the front yard and now yet another protective order is in place. Police records reportedly show he even had a loaded gun with him. How many charges and how many protective orders have to be filed before a pattern of violence is established and properly dealt with?
http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....
I think lance not pushing for custody was a plus on his part, had he known that mike was secretly abusing kelsey he would have pushed. but he trusted raye, after all he knew what a loving mommy she was.
Raye Dawn miscarried her first child because she refused to stop drinking. I can verify this, and not by the Briggs family. Raye Dawn was known all over Meeker and Shawnee for her party life style, which included drinking and drugging.

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Was Lance with Kelsey when she died? No. Who was with her? Porter and Smith.

ALl indications confirm that from a young age Smith was a alcoholic skank who could not keep her knees together. Her brothers have to faired to well either. Her own words on the pre trial interview confirm this. She was a train wreck, yet she claims to have had a "normal" and "happy" childhood. I for one seriously doubt it.
yaMeVoy

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Even in Lance’s seeming lack of interest, Kathie sought and seeks anything she can set her hands on to destroy Raye Dawn’s life, attempting to gain any information possible and revising history to use against her. The police even saw this.

These actions had nothing to do with the well-being of a child.
It had to do with the selfish nature of an individual who was so angry for having been seen through that she came out spitting venom.
Of course, we’re sure she’ll simply say the evidence is lying.

http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....

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They also saw that Smith was a lying manipulitive sack of crap.

So the Briggs are wrong because of the money? Everyone responsible for returning Kelsey to Smith to be murdered should NOT have been sued? Then why does Smith want 1/2 of their nasty dirty money? Will her half magically become less dirty as far as you are concerned? If SMith has sued would you be here b itching and moaning about it??????

Botton line: The Briggs did not kill Kelsey. Smith and/or Porter did.
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yaMeVoy wrote:
Even in Lance’s seeming lack of interest, Kathie sought and seeks anything she can set her hands on to destroy Raye Dawn’s life, attempting to gain any information possible and revising history to use against her. The police even saw this.
These actions had nothing to do with the well-being of a child.
It had to do with the selfish nature of an individual who was so angry for having been seen through that she came out spitting venom.
Of course, we’re sure she’ll simply say the evidence is lying.
http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....
Where was Kelsey when she was murdered? With her lying, vicious mother. whokilledkelsey.com
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Sue, you are the only one who says the evidence is lying. Not Kathie. YOU!
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Correction;
does not compare to them e-mailing the murderer of kelsey briggs smith and conspiring with him to lie and frame some one else so they can get 7 million dollars.
I have seen many be murdered for less.
at least they did not murder raye dawn. I want to thank them for that.
KelseysVoice

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yaMeVoy wrote:
Correction;
does not compare to them e-mailing the murderer of kelsey briggs smith and conspiring with him to lie and frame some one else so they can get 7 million dollars.
I have seen many be murdered for less.
at least they did not murder raye dawn. I want to thank them for that.
When did they get seven million dollars? Where was Kelsey when she was murdered? With her vicious, lying, mother. whokilledkelsey.com
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Raye Dawn is standing right there with her bloody hands stretched out, after murdering her own child, so she can profit from her crime. Sue states,"at least they did not murder raye dawn". All she cares about is Raye Dawn. Kelsey's torture and murder mean nothing to her.
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I think that Raye Dawn and Porter should have some company as they rot behind bars. Craig Key should have a cell right near Raye's. Oh no, Curtis has that spot. I just learned that Dr. Kelli Koons is still practicing medicine in Shawnee. Pediatric medicine. She cooperated in the abuse and murder of Kelsey Briggs. This woman took Kelsey on as a patient, even though her brother was Raye's lawyer. That is a clear violation of medical ethics. She ignored the OBVIOUS signs of abuse, and gave Raye Dawn the excuses she needed to keep Kelsey away from the only family that loved her. Why does this woman still have her medical license, at the very least? Why wasn't she thrown behind bars?

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we now know that leaving a violent or abusive relationship doesn’t necessarily stop the violence and abuse against the victim. In the majority of cases the abusive dynamics continue, especially for those victims who have children in common with their abusers. Dr. Silberg states that in DV by Proxy cases, the batterer “sees clearly that the easiest way to continue to hurt her is to assert his legal rights to control access to the child of his former partner.”
Like most abusers, our father recognized that he no longer had direct access to our mother after the divorce, but he DID have access to us kids. He quickly learned that the best way to get to our mother was through her children, realizing that abusing us was a far better and more effective way to hurt HER. This chain of events is at the heart of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE by proxy.
If we accept the abuser's claims that he's a good parent, I ask you, would a good parent withhold crying little kids begging for their mother? Wouldn't a good parent console, calm and reassure his children that they're loved and safe - that Mommy's just a phone call away?
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- I think it's the sweetest and most attractive male quality to see a dad being nurturing towards a child but I didn't have a dad - The mother can only stand helplessly by as suspicious authoritative eyes keep a close watch on her while she prays for someone to see the truth and intervene because she’s no longer able to do so.
Even when a good father feels that he is being unfairly portrayed by his ex-wife, he does not set out to rip his child away from a loving mother and attempt to destroy the close bond his child has with that other parent. Yet these abusers systematically support the removal of any child from their mother despite the valid concerns of abuse. Their goals are to reduce or eliminate child-support, roll back protections against domestic violence .
These self-admitted “Feminist Haters”(as one site refers to themselves) have come to realize that the best way to hurt their partner and punish her for leaving or pressure her to return is to go after her children. Unfortunately we have seen this strategy play out in murders or murder-suicides, but most of the time abusive fathers who had little involvement with the children during the relationship suddenly seek custody after she leaves. This is Domestic Violence by Proxy in its purist form. The court system and the inadequately trained professionals often used by the courts have been slow to recognize this all too common phenomenon.
He was cooperative and my mother was unrelenting in her determination to protect us.
Research shows that when children lose their primary attachment figure (the parent that performed most of the child care in the first couple of years of a child's life), they are more likely to experience depression, low self-esteem and suicide among other harm.... My mom was once asked when she escaped the domestic violence from my father. I was surprised when she replied “the day I got my kids back.” When she was asked to elaborate she replied “even though he wasn’t hitting me anymore, his abuse continued through my children and that was even more devastating than any beating he gave me.” It was at that moment I realized that we were nothing but a tool for my father to continue to abuse his mother. It is time to recognize Domestic Violence by Proxy and understand that condoning the Parental Alienation deception is the route of “Court Appointed - Child Abuse.” It’s time to stop the “CA – CA!”
Jennifer Collins
CA3 Children Against Court Appointed Child Abuse
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we now know that leaving a violent or abusive relationship doesn’t necessarily stop the violence and abuse against the victim. In the majority of cases the abusive dynamics continue, especially for those victims who have children in common with their abusers. Dr. Silberg states that in DV by Proxy cases, the batterer “sees clearly that the easiest way to continue to hurt her is to assert his legal rights to control access to the child of his former partner.”
Like most abusers, our father recognized that he no longer had direct access to our mother after the divorce, but he DID have access to us kids. He quickly learned that the best way to get to our mother was through her children, realizing that abusing us was a far better and more effective way to hurt HER. This chain of events is at the heart of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE by proxy.
If we accept the abuser's claims that he's a good parent, I ask you, would a good parent withhold crying little kids begging for their mother? Wouldn't a good parent console, calm and reassure his children that they're loved and safe - that Mommy's just a phone call away?
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- I think it's the sweetest and most attractive male quality to see a dad being nurturing towards a child but I didn't have a dad - The mother can only stand helplessly by as suspicious authoritative eyes keep a close watch on her while she prays for someone to see the truth and intervene because she’s no longer able to do so.
Even when a good father feels that he is being unfairly portrayed by his ex-wife, he does not set out to rip his child away from a loving mother and attempt to destroy the close bond his child has with that other parent. Yet these abusers systematically support the removal of any child from their mother despite the valid concerns of abuse. Their goals are to reduce or eliminate child-support, roll back protections against domestic violence .
These self-admitted “Feminist Haters”(as one site refers to themselves) have come to realize that the best way to hurt their partner and punish her for leaving or pressure her to return is to go after her children. Unfortunately we have seen this strategy play out in murders or murder-suicides, but most of the time abusive fathers who had little involvement with the children during the relationship suddenly seek custody after she leaves. This is Domestic Violence by Proxy in its purist form. The court system and the inadequately trained professionals often used by the courts have been slow to recognize this all too common phenomenon.
He was cooperative and my mother was unrelenting in her determination to protect us.
Research shows that when children lose their primary attachment figure (the parent that performed most of the child care in the first couple of years of a child's life), they are more likely to experience depression, low self-esteem and suicide among other harm.... My mom was once asked when she escaped the domestic violence from my father. I was surprised when she replied “the day I got my kids back.” When she was asked to elaborate she replied “even though he wasn’t hitting me anymore, his abuse continued through my children and that was even more devastating than any beating he gave me.” It was at that moment I realized that we were nothing but a tool for my father to continue to abuse his mother. It is time to recognize Domestic Violence by Proxy and understand that condoning the Parental Alienation deception is the route of “Court Appointed - Child Abuse.” It’s time to stop the “CA – CA!”
Jennifer Collins
CA3 Children Against Court Appointed Child Abuse
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Where was Kelsey when she was murdered? With her mother. whokilledkelsey.com
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you said "I think it would be much easier for someone who only pretended to love Kelsey to do such a terrible thing to her!"
I agree, that is why I believe it was so easy for RD to do that to her own child. She was abused by RD before Porter even came into the picture, according to people in Meeker and a pic the DA has possession of.
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I think it would be much easier for someone who only pretended to love Kelsey to do such a terrible thing to her! Why defend that he may have sexually abused her?
I didn't even get the priviledge of being close to Kelsey.I was utterly appalled that Kathie sent pictures of Kelsey to that freak!!!! Pictures of HIS choice!!!!!!!!
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you said "I think it would be much easier for someone who only pretended to love Kelsey to do such a terrible thing to her!"
I agree, that is why I believe it was so easy for RD to do that to her own child. She was abused by RD before Porter even came into the picture, according to people in Meeker and a pic the DA has possession of.
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Notice the sentence "I didn't even get the privilege of being close to Kelsey." She's mad no one sent pictures to her.
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