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Man Found Stabbed At Grocery Store, Suspect Jailed

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CLEARFIELD A man is dead and a suspect is behind bars after a stabbing at a Davis County grocery store.

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Sep 12, 2006
 
He was doing it in self defense, Karl came after him
Friend of the Kuhn family

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Sep 13, 2006
 
There is always two sides to the story. However I find it interesting that you are calling "Karl" by the name in the paper. If you had inside information I would think you would know his name... and how is using a deadly weapon against an unarmed man self defense? Fight fair... and if Moll was defending himself, he should have called police and stuck around to tell his side of the story. Once "Karl" was down and injured he was no longer a threat, why run?
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Sep 13, 2006
 
I called Paul Karl becuase I didnt know what to think the paper calls him Karl and I had always known him as paul, paul was a great guy dont get me wrong, but he did have a temper. and I know for a fact that paul almost always had a razor blade knife with him, that is why mike felt threatened. so he pulled his knife out, mike didnt intend to kill him, he was trying to leave at first before he threatened to kill his family, and if you think about it mike only stabbed paul once, one time, it wasnt an intentional kill, I'm really sorry for your family. Paul sat at our table and ate meals with us, he and I drove places together, he hung out. But I still think that he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, he sought out mike, he looked for him, it wasnt the other way around and if IF mike had called the police he would have been dead before they got there, let me ask you this, if you knew you were going to have and arugement with someone, and you usually had a weapon on you, wouldnt you bring it with you? I hope your family is doing okay.
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There is always two sides to the story. However I find it interesting that you are calling "Karl" by the name in the paper. If you had inside information I would think you would know his name... and how is using a deadly weapon against an unarmed man self defense? Fight fair... and if Moll was defending himself, he should have called police and stuck around to tell his side of the story. Once "Karl" was down and injured he was no longer a threat, why run?
pauls little sister

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Sep 18, 2006
 
Jane Doe wrote:
He was doing it in self defense, Karl came after him
IT WAS NOT SELF DEFENSE!!!!! My Brother did not go after him. Did Paul have any sort of weapon?! Did Paul come after the kid? NO! Whoever thinks that it was self defence is SICK and TWISTED and i hope that sick freak who murdered my brother rots in jail for the rest of his pathetic life! The whole Moll family are a bunch of sick freaks. And I will bet my life on it that Moll's father knew what his son was up to. Why else would he "convinantly" walk into the grocery store while he sick son walked around outside with a 4 inch blade knife. It was planned..the whole thing was planned. I hope Moll gets the death penalty so I can be front row to watch that sicko get the lethal injection and slowly die..hopefully suffer while he is at it.
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Sep 18, 2006
 
Friend of moll family wrote:
I called Paul Karl becuase I didnt know what to think the paper calls him Karl and I had always known him as paul, paul was a great guy dont get me wrong, but he did have a temper. and I know for a fact that paul almost always had a razor blade knife with him, that is why mike felt threatened. so he pulled his knife out, mike didnt intend to kill him, he was trying to leave at first before he threatened to kill his family, and if you think about it mike only stabbed paul once, one time, it wasnt an intentional kill, I'm really sorry for your family. Paul sat at our table and ate meals with us, he and I drove places together, he hung out. But I still think that he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, he sought out mike, he looked for him, it wasnt the other way around and if IF mike had called the police he would have been dead before they got there, let me ask you this, if you knew you were going to have and arugement with someone, and you usually had a weapon on you, wouldnt you bring it with you? I hope your family is doing okay.
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and you are sick too. how dare you come on here saying that and then saying that you hope our family is doing ok. if i were you, i would be absolutly ASHAMED to know the Moll family.
lonnie woods

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Sep 18, 2006
 
friend of the vitum to who it my concern the boy should be in prison for the rest of his life.
if he did not mean to kill him then why did he stabb him
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Sep 18, 2006
 
I understand the way you guys feel. We are all stressed out by this situation. I dont believe that pauls little sister really believes that the whole mall family is sick, do you really believe that they are supporting what their son/brother has done? well they dont, they pray every night for paul and his family, they wanted to go to his funeral but felt it wouldnt be right. They LOVED paul. I'm sure if they could turn back time they would. No one wanted paul to die, and hopefully you'll understand that mike (the son) wasnt on his meds at the time, he also had been bullyed by Pual for a few days prior to pauls death, Mike was never known to pull a knife. He fought with his fists. Right now Mike is in solitary confinment (I bet your taking joy in this) he is on 23 hour lock down. His family doesnt know what to think, they lost a son/brother but they also lost a very good friend. Mike himself wishes he can get the death penalty, they were good friends dispite their spats. I loved both of these men greatly and I am sad that in a way I have lost them both.
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Sep 19, 2006
 
what you think that meds is a good excuse for stabbing someone? quit making up excuses for your son and just face it that your son murdered someone. you'll still get to go see your son. my friend debbie (pauls mom) will never see her son again. nobody has the right to take anyones life. thats Gods decision..not his.
Anita Baeza

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Sep 19, 2006
 
Friend of moll family wrote:
I understand the way you guys feel. We are all stressed out by this situation. I dont believe that pauls little sister really believes that the whole mall family is sick, do you really believe that they are supporting what their son/brother has done? well they dont, they pray every night for paul and his family, they wanted to go to his funeral but felt it wouldnt be right. They LOVED paul. I'm sure if they could turn back time they would. No one wanted paul to die, and hopefully you'll understand that mike (the son) wasnt on his meds at the time, he also had been bullyed by Pual for a few days prior to pauls death, Mike was never known to pull a knife. He fought with his fists. Right now Mike is in solitary confinment (I bet your taking joy in this) he is on 23 hour lock down. His family doesnt know what to think, they lost a son/brother but they also lost a very good friend. Mike himself wishes he can get the death penalty, they were good friends dispite their spats. I loved both of these men greatly and I am sad that in a way I have lost them both.
From a Family Friend who knows that you did not loose a brother or a son or a friend because he is very much alive in prison. In another hand, our Paul is gone forever. But we know that he is in a better place. Trust me, no one is taking any joy in this matter. Whatever the cause has meant thats why were having the legal system do their job so there wont be anymore negative emails being passed on. We only wish you guys the best and im sure if Paul was here, you would know what he would have said.
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Sep 19, 2006
 
That was meant for the parents and family of Mike.
Pauls Little Sister

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Sep 19, 2006
 
I personally am taking joy in knowing what is going on with your son. But I have come to believe that Mike did not mean to kill Paul. I believe he had intentions to HURT him..but not kill. I think thats why he ran. He realized what he had done, and that he did something wrong, and panicked. I hope your son serves time for what he did. But you have to understand that anyone would want that. Yes, the family lost someone too, but not in the way we lost Paul. Paul is gone forever. We only see him in memories. You can see Mike through a piece of glass and thats better than nothing.
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Sep 21, 2006
 
I would like to thank you guys for being so understanded that two sides where hurt, and dont worry I know that my brother will do time (I'm his little sister not his mom) and I want you guys to know that I DO pray for you guys every night. I know what my brother did was wrong and there is NOO excuse for what he did, Paul was a great guy and will forever be in my heart. Peace to you guys
Pauls Little Sister

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Sep 21, 2006
 
I decided that there is no reason to hate your family for what Mike did. He's his own person. I know it probably affected your whole family though. Its hard for everyone. But you guys have to understand that you will always get to see Mike.. it may be through glass but its better than only having the memories. And the only memory i can remember of my brother is seeing him laying in his casket. I stood there with him the whole time playing with his hair. I hope your brother understands what he did. And that he ruined soo many lives and took away a very special man. If your gonna pray for anyone, pray for Pauls little boy who will never know what a great man his dad was.
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Sep 21, 2006
 
Ya Ya Ya poor Mike.... The fact is MIKE is a murderer. If he did not know he had done something that was totally wrong he would not have fled the scene. Maybe Mike's daddy should pay his employees. All Paul (KARL) had were words...it was Mike that had the weapon. and since when it is okay to murder someone just because they have a temper????? JERK!!!!
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I called Paul Karl becuase I didnt know what to think the paper calls him Karl and I had always known him as paul, paul was a great guy dont get me wrong, but he did have a temper. and I know for a fact that paul almost always had a razor blade knife with him, that is why mike felt threatened. so he pulled his knife out, mike didnt intend to kill him, he was trying to leave at first before he threatened to kill his family, and if you think about it mike only stabbed paul once, one time, it wasnt an intentional kill, I'm really sorry for your family. Paul sat at our table and ate meals with us, he and I drove places together, he hung out. But I still think that he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, he sought out mike, he looked for him, it wasnt the other way around and if IF mike had called the police he would have been dead before they got there, let me ask you this, if you knew you were going to have and arugement with someone, and you usually had a weapon on you, wouldnt you bring it with you? I hope your family is doing okay.
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Sep 21, 2006
 
Jane Doe wrote:
He was doing it in self defense, Karl came after him
Who are you JANE, Moll's mother? Fact is people shou;d not have to die for thier words. maybe for once Moll will have to take responsibility for his actions
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Sep 21, 2006
 
who are you JANE, Moll's mother? Oh poor Moll....Killed a man because the man's WORDS scared him. Moll is a murderer. FACE IT!!!!!!!!!!
Debbie Turnidge

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Sep 21, 2006
 
I would just like to know how the Moll family would feel about the person if this had happened to Mike? I have not really heard much from the friends and Moll's mother that shows any REAL remorse or sympathy to the Kuhn Family. You disgust me!!!!I think if the parents were in touch with reality they would have done something about Mike's behavior when he was racking up his juvenille record. Oh...I forgot....none of tat was his fault either right? always blaming the other guy is what got your son to this point....MURDER
Debbie Turnidge

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Sep 21, 2006
 
I apologize to Paul's family for my anger. Please know that I have a son, Buck, who has been taken to his knees by this. Buck is on a baseball scholarship in Oklahoma and Paul's obituary in his baseball locker and he has written Paul's initials in his baseball cap. He will be playing this season for Paul. He loved him very much as did I. I know that anger is not the answer for any of us, but it's so darn hard not to be angry. We saw Paul a couple of months ago, he came down to LV and went to church with Buck and I and after we had a wonderful lunch.. He was truly happy and talked of Joshua wit lights in his eyes. It's those same eyes and that same light that will watch over Josh and all of us forever. We have our own special angel and his name is Karl Paul Kuhn. honestly Mike Moll is not worth our attention or negative emotions. He is nothing. He will never be anything, and Paul is everything.
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Sep 21, 2006
 
Well... I worked at a boarding school for troubled youth in nevada. And one thing that we stressed there was taking accountability for there actions. Maybe the moll family should do the same. And one thing I also learned while working at the boarding school, seeing as i also had to work with the parents of the kids, is that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. You know i am so sick of hearing about all the stuff paul did to provoke this attack!!! "Karl was known to cary a blade or a knife on him at all times," well i guess mike did as well. "Karl came after Mike," and i bet mike didn't say anything to provoke an attack if that is what even happened. I would like to know where everyone is getting there information. Were you there? Or is poor mikey telling you this? I meen he would murder somone but no he wouldn't lie about anything. And yes i was beeing sarcastic. I bet you are saying that i am angree about this, and you know what you would be right. Paul was my brother though not by blood a brother none the less. So like i had begun this comment, stop with the excusses take some accountability and mike will pay for his choices. We make choices every day and all come with consequences and i will take satisfaction in knowing that mikes will be spending the rest of his LIFE behind bars! And you can continue with the excuses because you know what GOD doesn't care about excuses. My God cares about remorse and truly being sorry for the SINS you have comitted. And until MIKEY and his family stop making excuses they feel no remorse. And if you say you do, The EXCUSES say it all.
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Sep 21, 2006
 
And you know, I play baseball at Northeastern State Univ. in Oklahoma and I can no longer call my friend and tell him about my games and he can no longer tell me about how well he and his son are doing... but i have to look at a obituary in my locker and every time i wipe the sweat away from my eyes, see his initials under the brim of my hat. And i also think about a little boy who will never get to know his father, all he will hear are stories of the loving person i knew as Paul. So please forgive me if I am angry. But that is MY choice is to be ANGRY. And if the Moll family doesn't like me for it than that is my consequence.
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