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GPS device will be part of nurse's probation

Kevin Laing didn't defend himself. He didn't offer any apologies. He didn't say much of anything, really.

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#1
Apr 19, 2008
 
Good people are staying away from teaching jobs because of the
risk of false accusations. Now they'll stay away from nursing and other personal care jobs.

There is always the possibility that he DID NOT do what he was accused of.

3 or 30 lies do not make a truth.

So let's just leave it alone and stop calling for blood ( or jail ).

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Apr 19, 2008
 
You are exactly right, Wmnktt. This is EXACTLY the reason why people are staying away from teaching jobs, nursing jobs, etc...... Any job where there is ANY possibility that someone could make a false allegation against them.

Personally, I think that as soon as a person makes an accusation like this, child or adult..... they should have to have a lie detector test to see if they are telling the truth immediately.

I also think that it is about time to legalize pedosexuality (where most of the allegations are fabrications or exaggerations of what really went on [usually a child calling a consensual encounter forced]), so that we do not have any more of these things come up.

This is the main reason why I turned away from becoming a teacher, not just because I am a pedosexual, but because I was terrified of the thought of having a false or exaggerated allegation lodged against me by some little shithead who didn't want to take responsibility for asking me for a sexual encounter or exaggerating what went on in our sexual encounter.

Everyone I know, even knowing that I am a pedosexual and an UNREPENTANT one, says that I would have been perfect as a day-care instructor or elementary school teacher, because I am patient as ANYTHING with children.
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Apr 19, 2008
 
We may not know the truth wrote:
Good people are staying away from teaching jobs because of the
risk of false accusations. Now they'll stay away from nursing and other personal care jobs.
There is always the possibility that he DID NOT do what he was accused of.
3 or 30 lies do not make a truth.
So let's just leave it alone and stop calling for blood ( or jail ).
He deserves a lot of jail time and his wife is the biggest fool and liar existing.
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Apr 19, 2008
 
while there is the slight possibility that he is innocent, it isn't likely. the three original accusations have now become at least five. i doubt very seriously that anyone will stay away from nursing because of this case. his wife is certifiable and should never have been allowed to get away with that stunt in the courtroom.
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Apr 19, 2008
 
Instead of a GPS, this creep deserves to have a remote detonated Claymore attached to him and touched off when hes in a clear area. Let the buzzards have whats left.
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Apr 19, 2008
 
We may not know the truth wrote:
Good people are staying away from teaching jobs because of the
risk of false accusations. Now they'll stay away from nursing and other personal care jobs.
There is always the possibility that he DID NOT do what he was accused of.
3 or 30 lies do not make a truth.
So let's just leave it alone and stop calling for blood ( or jail ).
I am a nurse. I am OUTRAGED by what this man has done not only to his victims, but to the profession of nursing.
There is NO WAY that three unrelated strangers would come up with such similar accusations. Furthermore, due to the sexual nature of the crime, it is VERY difficult to get people to come forward with their accusations, knowing that it is difficult to prove.
Hopefully when this creep rapes again ( and there WILL be a next time ), it will be you that he violates.
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Apr 19, 2008
 
I would like to know WHY Sandra Laing was allowed to get away with harrassing the witness ? A witness, especially the witness in a sexual assault case should be PROTECTED BY THE COURT SYSTEM. Ms. Laing is in a wheelchair, but was able to get up and walk across the courtroom to sit behind the victim. I wonder if she is collecting disability ?
She had better be glad she didn't harrass me........I WOULD have demanded justice. Seems like the court system dropped the ball not just once, but twice. Maybe the defendant is servicing the Judge behind the bench.
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Apr 19, 2008
 
TheRunningNurse wrote:
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There is NO WAY that three unrelated strangers would come up with such similar accusations.

Hopefully when this creep rapes again ( and there WILL be a next time ), it will be you that he violates.
I am so surprised at your concluding remarks regarding the poster.
He/she gave a opinion.
In fact I know of two specific cases in which a number of unrelated individuals gave false information subsequently disproved by dna results.

It is highly improper for you to spew such hatred and ill will.
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Apr 21, 2008
 
How in the world is it that the family of an accused is allowed to approach a victim/witness and practically threaten her? It sounds like intimidating a witness to me. Why is the judge not issueing a restraining order from having the perpetrators family go NEAR any of the victims. The perpetrator and his wife sound like two nasty thugs to me. I doubt 3 complaints from patients are a "coincidence." This guy is SICK and he looks scary. I am sorry he will be out on the streets -- the prosecutors should have tried harder on this one.
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Apr 22, 2008
 
TheRunningNurse wrote:
I would like to know WHY Sandra Laing was allowed to get away with harrassing the witness ? A witness, especially the witness in a sexual assault case should be PROTECTED BY THE COURT SYSTEM. Ms. Laing is in a wheelchair, but was able to get up and walk across the courtroom to sit behind the victim. I wonder if she is collecting disability ?
She had better be glad she didn't harrass me........I WOULD have demanded justice. Seems like the court system dropped the ball not just once, but twice. Maybe the defendant is servicing the Judge behind the bench.
you are no nurse, you are a scumb bag, were you in court?did you hear what was said?amy the sentinel reporter is a heartless liar, she is trying to promote herself to the top at any cost. christina pernese got up on the stand and lied as she's been doing since day one. she has a long history of mental illness and tried to kill herself on zanax.no one call her anything except a liar. get your facts straight before you open your mouth, i feel sorry for you and your ignorgance, i feel sorry for you that you are so bitter and you don't have the facts. there are too many innocent people in prison based on someone lies.
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Apr 22, 2008
 
We may not know the truth wrote:
Good people are staying away from teaching jobs because of the
risk of false accusations. Now they'll stay away from nursing and other personal care jobs.
There is always the possibility that he DID NOT do what he was accused of.
3 or 30 lies do not make a truth.
So let's just leave it alone and stop calling for blood ( or jail ).
The truth is that Laing is innocent. When this mental patient tells the truth then you all will agree with me.
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Apr 23, 2008
 
You wrote, "She has a long history of mental illness and tried to kill herself on zanax."

That inforation is not part of the police report, and was not in the trial proceedings. It appears in no newspaper reports. What you just wrote, if it is true, is HIPAA protected information from the patient's medical record. The only way you would have access to that is if you were ... Mrs. Laing herself. I'm sure this is one of the many excuses Mr. Laing gave you in excusing his behavior.

I hope, for your sake, I am wrong and you are not Mrs. Laing. Because the fact that Mr Laing discussed the patient's medical record with you is in violation of both state and federal laws. The victim in this case, if she wanted, could bring a whole new slew of complaints against your husband, and, ultimately, you.

At any rate, let's speak fact here. Your husband, Mr. Laing, pled "no contest." Does anyone here know what that legal term means?

It means:

NO CONTEST: Not an admission of guilt, but an admission of the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. A plea of "no contest" may not be used against a person in subsequent civil or criminal proceedings. Such plea must be made with the consent of the Court.

Mr. Laing did not say he was guilty. But he admitted the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. That's as guilty as you can plead without using the words, "Guilty." It's a plea entered to save tax-payer's dollars. It's also a plea entered to keep both the guilty party, his family, and the victim and victim's family from going through a long, drawn-out court proceeding in which everyone's dirty laundry is aired.

And of everything I've seen written in this discussion topic, that's about the only verifiable FACT that anyone has put to paper. Mr Laing pled no contest to the charges. It wasn't an admission of guilt, but an admission of the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. The fact is -- that woman complained that Mr Laing sexually assaulted her while she was in her care. Through is plea, he admitted the truth of that fact.

And if Mr Laing is telling people, now, that is not what he meant ... well ... he should have listened more carefully when the lawyer defined what a "no contest" plea entailed.
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Apr 24, 2008
 
A few points wrote:
You wrote, "She has a long history of mental illness and tried to kill herself on zanax."
That inforation is not part of the police report, and was not in the trial proceedings. It appears in no newspaper reports. What you just wrote, if it is true, is HIPAA protected information from the patient's medical record. The only way you would have access to that is if you were ... Mrs. Laing herself. I'm sure this is one of the many excuses Mr. Laing gave you in excusing his behavior.
I hope, for your sake, I am wrong and you are not Mrs. Laing. Because the fact that Mr Laing discussed the patient's medical record with you is in violation of both state and federal laws. The victim in this case, if she wanted, could bring a whole new slew of complaints against your husband, and, ultimately, you.
At any rate, let's speak fact here. Your husband, Mr. Laing, pled "no contest." Does anyone here know what that legal term means?
It means:
NO CONTEST: Not an admission of guilt, but an admission of the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. A plea of "no contest" may not be used against a person in subsequent civil or criminal proceedings. Such plea must be made with the consent of the Court.
Mr. Laing did not say he was guilty. But he admitted the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. That's as guilty as you can plead without using the words, "Guilty." It's a plea entered to save tax-payer's dollars. It's also a plea entered to keep both the guilty party, his family, and the victim and victim's family from going through a long, drawn-out court proceeding in which everyone's dirty laundry is aired.
And of everything I've seen written in this discussion topic, that's about the only verifiable FACT that anyone has put to paper. Mr Laing pled no contest to the charges. It wasn't an admission of guilt, but an admission of the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. The fact is -- that woman complained that Mr Laing sexually assaulted her while she was in her care. Through is plea, he admitted the truth of that fact.
And if Mr Laing is telling people, now, that is not what he meant ... well ... he should have listened more carefully when the lawyer defined what a "no contest" plea entailed.
you do not have all records? she is a sicko.
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Apr 24, 2008
 
Disgusted taxpayer wrote:
How in the world is it that the family of an accused is allowed to approach a victim/witness and practically threaten her? It sounds like intimidating a witness to me. Why is the judge not issueing a restraining order from having the perpetrators family go NEAR any of the victims. The perpetrator and his wife sound like two nasty thugs to me. I doubt 3 complaints from patients are a "coincidence." This guy is SICK and he looks scary. I am sorry he will be out on the streets -- the prosecutors should have tried harder on this one.

weak case. you know that this man is black not scary.
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Apr 24, 2008
 
Isn't it a little too coincidental that these allegations followed this poor innocent soul to three different hospital systems? How did the molestee's all get their stories to agree? His wife's actions do not surprise me. It is obvious they are not very nice people.
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Apr 24, 2008
 
A few points wrote:
You wrote, "She has a long history of mental illness and tried to kill herself on zanax."
That inforation is not part of the police report, and was not in the trial proceedings. It appears in no newspaper reports. What you just wrote, if it is true, is HIPAA protected information from the patient's medical record. The only way you would have access to that is if you were ... Mrs. Laing herself. I'm sure this is one of the many excuses Mr. Laing gave you in excusing his behavior.
I hope, for your sake, I am wrong and you are not Mrs. Laing. Because the fact that Mr Laing discussed the patient's medical record with you is in violation of both state and federal laws. The victim in this case, if she wanted, could bring a whole new slew of complaints against your husband, and, ultimately, you.
At any rate, let's speak fact here. Your husband, Mr. Laing, pled "no contest." Does anyone here know what that legal term means?
It means:
NO CONTEST: Not an admission of guilt, but an admission of the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. A plea of "no contest" may not be used against a person in subsequent civil or criminal proceedings. Such plea must be made with the consent of the Court.
Mr. Laing did not say he was guilty. But he admitted the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. That's as guilty as you can plead without using the words, "Guilty." It's a plea entered to save tax-payer's dollars. It's also a plea entered to keep both the guilty party, his family, and the victim and victim's family from going through a long, drawn-out court proceeding in which everyone's dirty laundry is aired.
And of everything I've seen written in this discussion topic, that's about the only verifiable FACT that anyone has put to paper. Mr Laing pled no contest to the charges. It wasn't an admission of guilt, but an admission of the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. The fact is -- that woman complained that Mr Laing sexually assaulted her while she was in her care. Through is plea, he admitted the truth of that fact.
And if Mr Laing is telling people, now, that is not what he meant ... well ... he should have listened more carefully when the lawyer defined what a "no contest" plea entailed.
are you really a nurse or a wanna be nurse or are you the friend of christina pernese who don't want the real truth to come forth. you must be on xanax too? you can say and think whatever you want. your friend is a sicko and i feel sorry for you and her, you are on a mission, did you read about the man in kissimee who was given a plea, of 40 years for sex acts aganist his karate students? that a real sex offender but he's white and didn't get any publicity, were you in his court room too, did what he did to these students make you sick? amy edwards is only interested in the laing case because he's black, there are no evidence to support your friend, only accusations. yet you continue attack even though you don't know the facts. clearly, you have chosen her side. you and the sentinel are on the same side. you also forgot that the prosecutor say christina was on drugs and she also agreed when the judge ask her if she was on drugs. lets not play dumb here this was the only time she told the truth. where was her so call boyfriend? shouldn't he be there in court, or did they have another fight and there was a warrant for his arrest.????????? how many times did he beat her up. maybe he will show up and tell the truth, once her money grabbing lawyers drop her like a hot potatoe, she will start telling the truth.
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Apr 24, 2008
 
A few points wrote:
You wrote, "She has a long history of mental illness and tried to kill herself on zanax."
That inforation is not part of the police report, and was not in the trial proceedings. It appears in no newspaper reports. What you just wrote, if it is true, is HIPAA protected information from the patient's medical record. The only way you would have access to that is if you were ... Mrs. Laing herself. I'm sure this is one of the many excuses Mr. Laing gave you in excusing his behavior.
I hope, for your sake, I am wrong and you are not Mrs. Laing. Because the fact that Mr Laing discussed the patient's medical record with you is in violation of both state and federal laws. The victim in this case, if she wanted, could bring a whole new slew of complaints against your husband, and, ultimately, you.
At any rate, let's speak fact here. Your husband, Mr. Laing, pled "no contest." Does anyone here know what that legal term means?
It means:
NO CONTEST: Not an admission of guilt, but an admission of the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. A plea of "no contest" may not be used against a person in subsequent civil or criminal proceedings. Such plea must be made with the consent of the Court.
Mr. Laing did not say he was guilty. But he admitted the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. That's as guilty as you can plead without using the words, "Guilty." It's a plea entered to save tax-payer's dollars. It's also a plea entered to keep both the guilty party, his family, and the victim and victim's family from going through a long, drawn-out court proceeding in which everyone's dirty laundry is aired.
And of everything I've seen written in this discussion topic, that's about the only verifiable FACT that anyone has put to paper. Mr Laing pled no contest to the charges. It wasn't an admission of guilt, but an admission of the truth of the facts alleged in the complaint. The fact is -- that woman complained that Mr Laing sexually assaulted her while she was in her care. Through is plea, he admitted the truth of that fact.
And if Mr Laing is telling people, now, that is not what he meant ... well ... he should have listened more carefully when the lawyer defined what a "no contest" plea entailed.
you seem to forget the state offered the plea, she was affraid to lose the case, his lawyer was ready to go to trial, you think about that. the state knew her case was so weak that instead of loosing she offered the plea to save face. stop going around the issues as it was stated in court. you were there so why are you going around the issues??? "no contest" is offered in any court case when a plea is given!!, you are not as smart as you present your self to be.
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Apr 28, 2008
 
Observer wrote:
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He deserves a lot of jail time and his wife is the biggest fool and liar existing.
I AGREE, THIS BEAST SHOULD BE CASTRATED IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE. NO PATIENT ILL EVER FEEL SAFE IN A
HOSPITAL AGAIN
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I AGREE, THIS BEAST SHOULD BE CASTRATED IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE. NO PATIENT ILL EVER FEEL SAFE IN A
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This nurse is not a beast. He is an experienced critical care nurse with 15 years experience. As a black male nurse he had to be good enough to became a nursing superivisor. most nurses will never make it beyond the bedside. sorry, hospital was never a safe place.... This girl is not telling the truth. He was offered probation to get him off the train.
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He deserves a lot of jail time and his wife is the biggest fool and liar existing.
I am sure that they are not perfect. They met in high school-almost 35 years ago. married for 22 years. Many lies along the way? She still standing by her husband. She is a strong black woman. Yes, he married a black woman. Most woman would have gone already. she must really love this man. His wife is even more educated than her husband. Neither of than a fool. In contrast, the accuser has a boyfriend for 8 years. who has repeatedly abused her for years and made her dependent on drugs and mental health svcs.
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