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Why not eliminate all the half days schools have ?
There must have been 10 to 15 this year.
The last day of school is 1 hour. Seems odd ? 1 hour why even bother ?
Combine the half days into one day and shut the school down the other.
Simple solution - kids and teachers happy with another day off. Tax payers save on busses, school electric. Win win for everyone ?
Right ?
Oceanside, NY
School districts hit hard by fuel costs
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1 Private schools receive a minimal amount of their operating budgets from public funds. They still provide a quality education for MUCH less than the public schools, which exist MORE FOR THE TEACHERS than the students!!! There are far too many costly programs, classes and extracurricular activities that cost the taxpayers a fortune to maintain and line the pockets of the teachers! The US public educational system is one of the most expensive in the world! Most other developed nations educate their kids for less and achieve better results than we do! LET'S CUT THE WASTEFUL SPENDING! |
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school districts hit hard by fuel costs - join the club!
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"While some districts are cushioned by long-term fuel and oil contracts, others are stuck with higher-priced agreements. In one Suffolk County district, a new "energy team" is working to slash costs."
Love this comment. they just basically stated why LI school districts need to be CONSOLIDATED! |
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Like LIPA, schools as end-users could have hedged their supply costs. But nooooo....
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Thank you, it was a "specialty" of mine for many years! |
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Look, this was something that I worked on a lot for years. I know what I'm talking about. You would have to go into each building, get the numbers and sizes of the classrooms, get the number of kids in each grade level, figure in furniture, computers, whatever else your district puts in each classroom. You have to see what the class-size guidelines or limits are for your district - not everyone is the same. A "saner" staffing level is what in your opinion? What's good for the taxpayers or what's good for the children in each room? What's good for your wallet or what's good for the children's education? In reality, a balance between the two needs to be found. But, as I was trying to explain in the above post, how and where you cut a class depends largely on how many children are in a grade level in a building. And in my district, we've always been concerned about a little thing called "EQUITY". Meaning, how fair or equal is it to have 30 kids in a 4th grade class in one building while another building in the same district only has 22 let's say. Are they getting the same education, the same attention etc? Chances are they're not. What type of children are in each class is also a consideration. Some need special services, some have behavior issues, some have language issues, some have emotional issues, some need a lot of attention, others need to be challenged more because they are very bright. These are the things principals and teachers have to work out every year to maximize the education, time and space they have to work with. It's far from an easy fix sir. |
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If you take one school district and see how many different private and parochial schools are used by some of the children you'd be pretty surprised. Then see how many buses are needed to run routes for all those private and parochial schools in the morning and in the afternoon. Oh, and if you have early or late buses for the district, the privates and parochials can get an equivalent number of days for early and late buses, just because. Have you any idea how expensive bus contracts are these days? Perhaps you should give your business official a call and find out what it costs to provide busing for the private/parochial schools. Do you have any idea how expensive textbooks are? Well the p/p's can, if they so choose, order new ones every year, and the district has to pay for them! Even if the district keeps its books for five or ten years! Doesn't matter. Oh, and if parents in the district demand that Johnny gets an extra text to keep home so he doesn't have to carry all the weight in his backpack, then the p/p's can also get extra texts. Call your business official and see how much was spent on new textbooks for the p/p's. Special ed, nursing, software, on and on.... Forget the lower salaries the teachers get in the p/p's, just add in all of the above costs to your little tuitions and you would be shocked at how fast and far they go up! So don't be so dismissive of what the public schools have to do for your private enclaves that don't have to deal with poor grades, bad behavior and disabilities. You will never win the argument. |
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You seem like you know alot about this subject. Can you explain to me why there are so many half days on the school calender ? and do you think it might be a good idea to make two half days into one full day then close the school the other day ? This just seems like a no brainer ? 2 half days instead of one full day is a waste of everything. |
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Tell that to the bus companies that schools contract with. Not every district owns buses. |
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In my school district they pick the children up at their homes and bus them to their schools. No one walks to school. I live roughly 750 feet from a school and the children on my block are bussed the very short distance to the school.
When my children attended the very same school I walked them rather than stand on a bus stop to be bussed a two minute walk away. We have to have some sanity here about bussing. Parents have to be responsible for their children going to school not the school districts. The luxury of door to door bussing is over at over $4.00 per gallon. |
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Garden City - 4 days this week of school from 8:20 a.m. to 9:55 a.m., the 5th day there is no school at all. |
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Thats alot of waste. No ? 4 days of 1 & half hours each. Why ? Does anyone know ? |
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“Eye Smell a Huckster in NH”
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1 Are you talking about the teachers, or the kids? Please clarify. |
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Go on, you want school districts to be fiscally responsible? We've been giving them a blank check for years as they waste our tax dollars. Then every year, they come back to the well and ask for more. They will blame it on every reason other than the obvious one which is they WASTE so much money.
Speak to anyone that has worked in a school district, how teachers and staff are told to spend and order more and use every supply so they can get at least the same budget next year (EVEN IF THEY DON'T NEED IT). They never had to cut back, they never had to balance a budget or checkbook because the well won't ever run dry when it is funded by tax payers who keep voting YES on budgets because you actually have been trained like sheep to think that voting NO will hurt the kids. Again, the kids will never be able to afford to live here on Long Island, so, we are educating them with a Regents Diploma (which mind you is meaningless in 49 states) so they can move away. I fail to see the logic here about continuing to give the districts what they want year after year. At what point, and there has to be a limit, would everyone say school taxes are too much. 15k? 20k? 25k? 50K? THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN and those that vote YES year after year are voting to keep it BROKEN! |
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Can anyone tell my why the Superintendants of the school districts get paid so much. They sure as heck do not do much of anything. They act like dictators over the peon's who work under them, from the teachers right down to custodial, cafeteria etc etc etc. Look into the Supers salary for cuts.
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I was referring to the kids, but for some reason teachers do have a high rate of obesity, not a good example for the chubsters. |
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Districts only have to live by the number of days required for school, generally around 180, some have a few more days. So when the calendar is made up (and all districts get a draft one from their BOCES) they figure in the holidays they must take, when Regents are scheduled, if they want Supt Conference Days, teacher conference days, snow days etc. You'll find that not every district has exactly the same end result. Schools get state aid for the days they are open. If you take two half days and combine them into one, the district loses a day of aid. And if you did combine them, you probably aren't saving any energy costs because the custodians would be using that day for maintenance and repairs, administration would still be in most likely as well. |
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