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“Everyone needs a hero.I'm mine”

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<quoted text>My mistake, someone else brought up Stallworth, not you.We all know he got off easy because he paid off the victims family big time. How far do we carry this "second chance" and forgivness" thing? Dahmer? Manson? McVay?
When did Dahmer, Manson and McVeigh get convicted of federal dog fighting and serve their sentence for it? They did murder HUMANS though. So that's the same thing in your eyes? Also, don't you think Dahmer and McVeigh paid so with their lives? Because both are dead. Bad example to compare them with Vick. Unless you think a dog's life is equal to a human's? Or in McVeigh's case over 500 human lives. If that's the case, what about the Humane society euthanizing dogs? The Iditarod and dog racing? Those dogs die a horrible slow death (6,000 known dog deaths in the 100 years) and are horribly treated, beaten, starved and killed. Where's your outrage for those "non-prosecuted" dog torturers and killers?

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#10701
Nov 15, 2009
 
Correction: It was 168 victims and injuring more than 680 in the Oklahoma City bombing.
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#10702
Nov 15, 2009
 
Mayhbe you just don't get that we care for man's best friend.
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#10703
Nov 15, 2009
 
Maybe you should look at the animal welfare sites and see what people are saying about thousands of other animal issues.
And no we will never shut up about Vick in his lifetime
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When did Dahmer, Manson and McVeigh get convicted of federal dog fighting and serve their sentence for it? They did murder HUMANS though. So that's the same thing in your eyes? Also, don't you think Dahmer and McVeigh paid so with their lives? Because both are dead. Bad example to compare them with Vick. Unless you think a dog's life is equal to a human's? Or in McVeigh's case over 500 human lives. If that's the case, what about the Humane society euthanizing dogs? The Iditarod and dog racing? Those dogs die a horrible slow death (6,000 known dog deaths in the 100 years) and are horribly treated, beaten, starved and killed. Where's your outrage for those "non-prosecuted" dog torturers and killers?
thank you wonderful post.

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Pittys rule wrote:
<quoted text>It is unforgiveable and they just can't get over it.
It's not "they" that can't get over it. It is you and those that support your view. As the poster stated clearly, it's not up to us to forgive.
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#10706
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That would be thousands of people all over the world that hate that demon. Look at some other blogs about Vick.They are all the same
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We are evil and hateful people? Why? Because we are outraged what that vicious beast did to innocent and helpless animals? May I ask what name you have for him? In other words, if you call us "evil and hateful, what name do you have for a monster who tortured and mutilated animals to their death by tearing them apart for his OWN PERSONAL PLEASURE AND ENJOYMENT? AND FOR A PERIOD OF SEVEN YEARS? You have no basis for calling others evil and hateful while you are protecting and idolizing a freak who enjoys torturing innocent and voiceless animals to death.
Well said Rose

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Pittys rule wrote:
<quoted text>It is unforgiveable and they just can't get over it.
Sam wrote:
Mayhbe you just don't get that we care for man's best friend.
I do also. I have a dog that I love, thank you very much. Actually 4 in my lifetime and 2 cats.
Thank you Sam for proving my point. It is you and your ilk that have the problem, not those of us that say he paid his debt and have moved on. Comparing what he did to the Oklahoma City bombings and Dahmer and Manson because he killed dogs, really? Not you directly but others have. This is much like explaining our view to a tree though. And I really like trees also.
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#10709
Nov 15, 2009
 
Don't really care whether you think he's served his time.We don't think he served one day for animal abuse.You and your ilk are uninformed to the facts
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Let me sum it up- for some of us, NO amount of time will buy him forgiveness. We deplore his actions with every fiber of our being, and we don't trust he'll ever be "rehabilitated" of his predilection to enjoy torturing animals. Besides, one time doing such a horrendous thing is one too many. Sorry, he doesn't get two bites at that apple.
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eagle fan wrote:
<quoted text>thank you wonderful post.
You have also posted very good points. Can we just get past this and use it as a learning experience? I could understand the hatred if he had been caught doing this again. He hasn't and by all accounts (Humane Society, NFL, Philidelphia Eagles, you and I) he is putting forth the effort to change from this. Other people just need a poster boy for hate. And I mean hate in the worst (human trait) way.
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beguiled wrote:
<quoted text>Of course not. I did not like what Vick did to animals. I know Korny says they are mearly "beasts" and very disposible.I disagree. It was his cruelty that was unforgivable to me.You can forgive, I don't. The subject is mute. Go buy his sweatshirt.
It is unforgivable and his "whatevers" have made sure it will never be forgotten along with his actions which weren't mild,they were EXTREME electrocuting dogs in his pool.
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Let me sum it up- for some of us, NO amount of time will buy him forgiveness. We deplore his actions with every fiber of our being, and we don't trust he'll ever be "rehabilitated" of his predilection to enjoy torturing animals. Besides, one time doing such a horrendous thing is one too many. Sorry, he doesn't get two bites at that apple.
And to add to your post, I will again state that no NORMAL PERSON could or would torture and mutilate innocent and helpless animals to their death. The methods that this beast used to torture these precious creatures are despicable, to say the least. He needs to be evaluated as to why he chose to torture animals starting at the age of 8 years old. THESE ARE NOT NORMAL ACTS OF CHILDREN OR ADULTS, FOR THAT MATTER. Obviously, no one paid attention to what he was doing because if they did, they would have brought him to a psychiatrist to find the cause of his heinous acts against animals. Therefore, he continued his disgusting and revolting torture and mutilation of animalsl until he got caught.
HE, HIMSELF, knew damn well what he was doing was wrong but, of course, he got his personal pleasure out of his torture of animals and even enjoyed hearing their screaming pains as they were dying.
Until he is evaluated by a psychiatrist and treated by medication and/or counselling, he will continue his hobby and perhaps even escalate to killing humans as such similar cases have been documented and proven over the years.
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big tim wrote:
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You have also posted very good points. Can we just get past this and use it as a learning experience? I could understand the hatred if he had been caught doing this again. He hasn't and by all accounts (Humane Society, NFL, Philidelphia Eagles, you and I) he is putting forth the effort to change from this. Other people just need a poster boy for hate. And I mean hate in the worst (human trait) way.
You still don't realize that the heinous methods he used to torture and mutilate animals are not the acts of a NORMAL HUMAN BEING. You will not digest this fact and continue with your stupid arguments such as we need a poster boy for hate. Why would I not HATE AND DESPISE what he did to helpless and innocent animals? WHY?Do you have friends or relatives who have tortured and mutilated animals to death, not to mention that he threw little animals in a pool and electrocuted them while they were desperately trying to get out which caused them a slow and painful death while we watched them and laughed.
Does that sound NORMAL to you? If you knew that your neighbors or friends were torturing animals to death, would you not call the Police or some other authority to stop those heinous acts?
All that I am saying is that he needs to be evaluated by a psychiatrist as to what caused him to inflict this torture at the early age of 8 years. There has to be some brain disorder to have caused him to entertain himself by these heinous acts on animals. If and when he is evaluated, I am sure he will need counselling and/or medication as NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT torture and mutilate innocent and helpless animals for no reazson whatsoever other than personal pleasure and entertainment.
I am not trying to use him or anyone else as a poster boy for hate. If you believe otherwise, I have nothing else to say.
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Rose wrote:
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You still don't realize that the heinous methods he used to torture and mutilate animals are not the acts of a NORMAL HUMAN BEING. You will not digest this fact and continue with your stupid arguments such as we need a poster boy for hate. Why would I not HATE AND DESPISE what he did to helpless and innocent animals? WHY?Do you have friends or relatives who have tortured and mutilated animals to death, not to mention that he threw little animals in a pool and electrocuted them while they were desperately trying to get out which caused them a slow and painful death while we watched them and laughed.
Does that sound NORMAL to you? If you knew that your neighbors or friends were torturing animals to death, would you not call the Police or some other authority to stop those heinous acts?
All that I am saying is that he needs to be evaluated by a psychiatrist as to what caused him to inflict this torture at the early age of 8 years. There has to be some brain disorder to have caused him to entertain himself by these heinous acts on animals. If and when he is evaluated, I am sure he will need counselling and/or medication as NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT torture and mutilate innocent and helpless animals for no reazson whatsoever other than personal pleasure and entertainment.
I am not trying to use him or anyone else as a poster boy for hate. If you believe otherwise, I have nothing else to say.
while "he"
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Rose wrote:
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And to add to your post, I will again state that no NORMAL PERSON could or would torture and mutilate innocent and helpless animals to their death. The methods that this beast used to torture these precious creatures are despicable, to say the least. He needs to be evaluated as to why he chose to torture animals starting at the age of 8 years old. THESE ARE NOT NORMAL ACTS OF CHILDREN OR ADULTS, FOR THAT MATTER. Obviously, no one paid attention to what he was doing because if they did, they would have brought him to a psychiatrist to find the cause of his heinous acts against animals. Therefore, he continued his disgusting and revolting torture and mutilation of animalsl until he got caught.
HE, HIMSELF, knew damn well what he was doing was wrong but, of course, he got his personal pleasure out of his torture of animals and even enjoyed hearing their screaming pains as they were dying.
Until he is evaluated by a psychiatrist and treated by medication and/or counselling, he will continue his hobby and perhaps even escalate to killing humans as such similar cases have been documented and proven over the years.
I don't think drugs would help him. We can only hope he stays away from animals.
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You have also posted very good points. Can we just get past this and use it as a learning experience? I could understand the hatred if he had been caught doing this again. He hasn't and by all accounts (Humane Society, NFL, Philidelphia Eagles, you and I) he is putting forth the effort to change from this. Other people just need a poster boy for hate. And I mean hate in the worst (human trait) way.
i could maybe understand the outrage if vick's situation was an isolated incident, but we all know that it isn't. animal abuse and dogfighting didn't start with vick, didn't stop when vick went to prison, nor has it stopped now. fact is it has gotten worse and harder to detect. these people are haters and will hate regardless to what. amazing with all the crap that is going on in this country all they can do is worry about michael vick. i don't like what vick did anymore than the next person, but there is no way i could live with the hate these people have NO WAY.
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Edwin wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think drugs would help him. We can only hope he stays away from animals.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/411/petition-t...
I'm not talking about drugs; I am trying to say that he has a brain disorder as NORMAL people DO NOT TORTURE AND MUTILATE ANIMALS TO THEIR DEATH. He needs to find out what caused him to inflict those heinous acts starting at the age of 8 years. Something caused him to torture animals. He needs to see a psychiatrist for an evaluation of his desire and need to torture animals, whether it be medication and/or counselling.
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#10719
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What is worse- abusing innocent dogs for pleasure or supporting those who do so?Why should he benefit from the maltreatment of poor helpless animals.
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