Child- support amnesty set July 20-24 Northampton County offers...

Here's a chance to make good, dads and moms who haven't been paying court-ordered child support. Full Story
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Wendy Richenbach

Raeford, NC

#22 Jul 5, 2009
Mr. Danner...you're right. These guys are no good. The county DRS is headed by a hyphen woman, so that should give a hint to what's going on in there...

The abuse doesn't stop there however. If a woman cheats on her husband and has a baby, the husband will still be forced to pay child support even the baby turns out to be a different race!

Domestic relations doesn't care one bit about the best interests of the child...that is lame rhetoric. It's time our spinless legislators fix this horribly abusive situation.
Richard Danner wrote:
It has been proven that the child was not mine, but still these low lifes refuse to give me my hard earned money back. I have proof that Northampton County Domestic Relations are thiefs. Its a deadbeat system that creates a deadbeat parent
Captain Jack

Breinigsville, PA

#24 Jul 5, 2009
This whole problem would go away if both parents were required to pay child support into a fund that was then used to pay for all of the child's needs. The custodial parent would control what money comes out of the account but it would need to be accessible only by check or some sort of electronic payment.

It'd be pretty easy to spot fraud and then the parent who is paying a greater sum wouldn't feel that all of his (& yes it is almost always a man who pays support) was going toward the whims of the mother. There would still be problems but checks written to the local drug dealer, the nail salon, or the BMW dealership would clearly be fraudulent.

Applying a series of checks & balances to both parents would cut down on deadbeats and strengthen these broken families because you'd have far fewer custody battles.
Hah

United States

#25 Jul 5, 2009
You deadbeat Dads need to man the f--- up and support your kids. You don't like the Mom anymore? Tough crap. Seventy dollars a week is nothing compared to what it costs to raise your child the right way.
i agree

Easton, PA

#27 Jul 5, 2009
Hah wrote:
You deadbeat Dads need to man the f--- up and support your kids. You don't like the Mom anymore? Tough crap. Seventy dollars a week is nothing compared to what it costs to raise your child the right way.
I agree with you 100%. My ex paid $13.00 a week back in the 80's.
NeffsDeadHead

Slatington, PA

#28 Jul 5, 2009
Domestics Relations in Lehigh county doesnt give a rats a~~ about any of the men in Lehigh county. When I left the b~t~h I automatically STARTING PAYING CHILD SUPPORT, before the domestic court hearing, so I would'nt fall in the rears. I paid $285 child support every two weeks for two years, then my son came to live with me. On top of the child support, I was ordered by the court to pay $1,200 a month alimony to the b~t~h, until the age of sixty, 3 1/2 years to go. she collects SSD at the rate of $1,595 a month, she makes more money in a year, its not fair.
Southside Allentown 18103

Whitehall, PA

#29 Jul 6, 2009
Hah wrote:
You deadbeat Dads need to man the f--- up and support your kids. You don't like the Mom anymore? Tough crap. Seventy dollars a week is nothing compared to what it costs to raise your child the right way.
My husband's ex took off one morning while he was at work. He went to work, and when he came home, his wife and children were gone. He did not know where his children were for almost two years. While he was waiting to find his children and get visitation, he went down to the county child support office, opened an account and started paying child support. After two years,(she was actually living 12 blocks away from him and she never informed him) she saunters into court looking like a prostitute and started sassing the judge and said she wasn't receiving child support. The judge quickly put her in her place and stated had she used her head for thinking and called the courts, she would have known that there were money for the children. If the courts don't have the address to send the money to, then it is put on hold. My husband had filed for divorce and he got visitation for every other weekend and on the off week he would get the boys, he was allowed to get them on his birthday, Father's Day and on alternating holidays and two weeks out of the summer months when the boys were out of school.
Now to give the background of the woman. She is high school drop out with hardly any brains at all. My husband when he was married to her worked hard to pay the bills because she didn't work. She would hardly let him touch the children or help raise them. She was irresponsible with money. He would give her the money to pay the bills and she would go out and spend it wildly on other things. Then he would have to hustle playing pool to come up with the money.
When we lived in Florida (where they live) we got the boys as stated except for the two weeks summer vacation. Then for two years, she pulled the vanishing act again when she moved from her father's house and then we took her back to court on Contempt of Court charge (violating his visitation [he was paying support each week]and not keeping him informed of address changes and phone numbers to keep in contact with the boys). When she was served the papers, we got a phone call immediately and she wanted to know when we wanted the children.
When we moved to Pennsylvania, the communication really stopped. We were being kept advised about the boys through their aunt (our friend) and she informed the father that the youngest son was not being treated for scoleosis (which was turning out to be life threatening because the curvature was getting so bad it was crushing the heart and lungs (this was three years ago). My husband stepped in and called Child Services and they went out to check it out and he was immediately scheduled for surgery about 6 months later.
Meanwhile, the mother was taking the support money and getting illegal prescriptions for drugs and using the support money for her habit. She was not using the money for the boys. One was born in 1988 and the youngest was born in 1991. When the boys would ask for the support money, she would tell them she didn't get any and downgrade their father. But they were soon set straight because the child support was being deducted automatically from his paycheck.
The boys have a sister that they had not seen since 1999 at Christmas (despite the fact that pictures were sent to them and hidden or destroyed). When my youngest stepson was in Shriners' Hospital for his surgery, he wanted his dad to be with him. She didn't like that at all. But he went and spent time with his son and from that time on, he has talked to his dad and his sister and has gotten to know her and she loves her brother.(despite the efforts of her to keep her boys sequestered from their father).
Upshot of the whole thing, my stepson now has control of his money and uses it for his own until the last payment is made on Aug 13 (next month).
Dan

Emmaus, PA

#30 Jul 6, 2009
This is a joke !!!!!!

Last week my daughter received a letter fro DR stating it was terminating her order because they can't inforce it. The deadbeat owes $16,000.00 in arreages and has not paid in years. He lives with friends and doesn't work to avoid getting caught.

The DR says it cant enforce the order so they are going to close the case. Is this how they sweep difficult cases under the carpet to make their collections look better?
Southside Allentown 18103

AOL

#31 Jul 6, 2009
Dan wrote:
This is a joke !!!!!!
Last week my daughter received a letter fro DR stating it was terminating her order because they can't inforce it. The deadbeat owes $16,000.00 in arreages and has not paid in years. He lives with friends and doesn't work to avoid getting caught.
The DR says it cant enforce the order so they are going to close the case. Is this how they sweep difficult cases under the carpet to make their collections look better?
Maybe she is better off without the "deadbeat" in her life. Maybe he doesn't want to be bothered! I never enforced visitation or child support from my ex. I had a good job and really didn't want his influence around her...Thank goodness he lived in several states away. The farther the better.

“Reality is subjective”

Since: Aug 08

Springtown, PA

#32 Jul 6, 2009
Whoa Dan!!!!! There's something wrong there, big time. Provide DRS with his address so they can serve him. They need to know where he is to take action.

And yes yes! I know the whole system is a wreck. Mr. Danner's problem is more common than you think. What Mr. Danner needs to do is hire a good attorney. The system will assign a father to support a child who has done so in the past. Some parents (m/d) who adopt and get divorced think they're no longer responcible for the child they adopted. Another situation is when a wife has a child by another man and her husband "does the right thing" and supports the child even though it's not his.

I would think producing the real father would help the case.

The bottom line issue is that TWO people brought the child into the world and TWO people have to support it. If you don't want to pay support or support a child, stay dressed and don't do the deed or use some form of birth control.

DRS, as messed up as they are (and I don't work for them) DID NOT bring that child into the world. The parent did. And... as the payer who did stay on his obligation, I know I did my part. what my child's mother did with it is her business. Buttt.... let her mess up with care of my daughter and I was all over her like stink on a skunk.

My 2nd wife... left me to raise 3 on my own with little support. Had the unmitigated gall to say "i carried them for 9 months, now it's your turn. i shouldn't have to pay support." And she's done everything to NOT pay it. That's BS.

if the child is yours (don't matter if you are dad or mom) pay your flipping support. DRS has issues and no time to figure anything out if there's an error. Follow proceedure WITH an attorney to get solutions.
Richard Danner

Duncannon, PA

#33 Jul 6, 2009
stevej61 wrote:
Whoa Dan!!!!! There's something wrong there, big time. Provide DRS with his address so they can serve him. They need to know where he is to take action.
And yes yes! I know the whole system is a wreck. Mr. Danner's problem is more common than you think. What Mr. Danner needs to do is hire a good attorney. The system will assign a father to support a child who has done so in the past. Some parents (m/d) who adopt and get divorced think they're no longer responcible for the child they adopted. Another situation is when a wife has a child by another man and her husband "does the right thing" and supports the child even though it's not his.
I would think producing the real father would help the case.
The bottom line issue is that TWO people brought the child into the world and TWO people have to support it. If you don't want to pay support or support a child, stay dressed and don't do the deed or use some form of birth control.
DRS, as messed up as they are (and I don't work for them) DID NOT bring that child into the world. The parent did. And... as the payer who did stay on his obligation, I know I did my part. what my child's mother did with it is her business. Buttt.... let her mess up with care of my daughter and I was all over her like stink on a skunk.
My 2nd wife... left me to raise 3 on my own with little support. Had the unmitigated gall to say "i carried them for 9 months, now it's your turn. i shouldn't have to pay support." And she's done everything to NOT pay it. That's BS.
if the child is yours (don't matter if you are dad or mom) pay your flipping support. DRS has issues and no time to figure anything out if there's an error. Follow proceedure WITH an attorney to get solutions.
My whole matter stems from a very corrupt judge who is still on the bench in Northampton County. Believe it or not this said Judge rubber stamped a false order that I was responsible for a child that was not mine in any such form. Good lawyers are hard to find since they work in this corrupt system and god forbid they step on someones toes in the system. I have been to a state representative to try getting my money back with no luck. I myself have no problem being a whistle blower and calling a spade a spade. I did try the lawyer way and the cost to get my $7,200 back from these jack boot thugs is quite expensive. I know the real truth about the DRS in PA. Its almost like a scam that is legal with guns and handcuffs behind them. This is nazi Germany here in good old Northampton County. The yellow fringe around the american flag in the court house means under marshal law. So justice isn't just believe me. Justice in Northampton County should be spelled just us!!!!!! Amen
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Ed Smith

North Wales, PA

#34 Jul 7, 2009
Tellmehow wrote:
Pay your support and you wouldn't be so bitter. My ex went from paying $300.00 (choosing never to see his daughter) to $534.00 per month all because he didn't feel like going to a hearing. He paid the same $300.00 for 6 years and I never took him back to have it raised. Was he bitter when he had to pay $534.00 and it was his own fault. Don't have children if you don't want to support them.
Something isn't right with your story. Child support is a mathematical calculation that is defined by law. Going to a hearing has nothing to do with it.
I suspect that you were getting $300/month and wanted more. His error was getting mad and probably telling you to go pound sand when you asked for more money. If he agreed to a $100 increase you would have jumped at it and he would have been ahead $134. But anger got the best of him.
Fed Up

Nazareth, PA

#35 Nov 17, 2010
Ed Smith wrote:
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Obviously you haven't dealt with the clowns in DR. The state meddles in family affairs and creates these problems, puts laws in place to "enforce" and then fails to provide for the children.
Now the new plan is to threaten people to pay up or go to jail? The jails are already full of criminals and gov't is broke. Why should PA put more people in jail? What is it going to change? Parents don't have the money to pay.
Then don't have children....DR enforces on deadbeats that owe only $80 but not $15,000. DR is negligent in many cases and only getting worse from my experience. My personal opinion is there are all kinds of situations where there may need to be enforcement and the parent(s) that are honest, willing, and trying to raise their kids (whether on their own or jointly) by paying what they need to and doing what they can to make it happen, are the ones that should be commended. It's the jerks (male or female) who just don't care and try to manipulate the system with fake tax forms, phony businesses, and lies that just keep getting bigger.....are poor excuses for parents and it's not the parent who suffers, it is the child. Most of these parents are also spiteful thinking they could get back at their ex....WRONG! They hurt the child in the process. Why do have so many screwed up people in Northampton County (between the drunks and Domestic Violence) perhaps the Psycho wards should be full as well.
Wraith

Morrisville, PA

#36 Jan 25, 2013
Hah wrote:
You deadbeat Dads need to man the f--- up and support your kids. You don't like the Mom anymore? Tough crap. Seventy dollars a week is nothing compared to what it costs to raise your child the right way.
Agreed, and deadbeat moms also need to woman the f--- up and support their kids, rather than dodging out on their $25 a month payments.

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