freemasonry

who believes in freemasonry and why or why not?

I would think its a possibility, perhaps for no other reason then it started with-in the blue collar world. hence the masonry in Freemasonry.

and based on that alone I think the only secret word of the Freemasons is Education, with out witch you can never become a Master Stone Mason or much of anything for that matter. In Essence what the three stooges wanted (from what I understand) is a short cut to what the Master Mason took a life time to achieve, not something that can be achieved by speaking a word, However being of limited intelligence and having a lust for power, greed seemed to have made them blind and they thought otherwise.

So three stooges wanted what they could not have because they where not willing to put in the time effort labor blood sweat and tears study and everything else it took to become a master of the trade and this (unless I missed something) is what a secret society is born out of, Assuming they exist at all.

So I think its a possibility that they may exist but their origins are rather.........unusual. let us hope history does not repeat itself AGAIN

Nobody wrote:

I would think its a possibility, perhaps for no other reason then it started with-in the blue collar world. hence the masonry in Freemasonry.
and based on that alone I think the only secret word of the Freemasons is Education, with out witch you can never become a Master Stone Mason or much of anything for that matter. In Essence what the three stooges wanted (from what I understand) is a short cut to what the Master Mason took a life time to achieve, not something that can be achieved by speaking a word, However being of limited intelligence and having a lust for power, greed seemed to have made them blind and they thought otherwise.
So three stooges wanted what they could not have because they where not willing to put in the time effort labor blood sweat and tears study and everything else it took to become a master of the trade and this (unless I missed something) is what a secret society is born out of, Assuming they exist at all.
So I think its a possibility that they may exist but their origins are rather.........unusual. let us hope history does not repeat itself AGAIN

well judging with how much people are freemasons these days,including peoples role models ,it is highly likely history could repeat it self

Not so sure if that would be a good thing or not

Nobody wrote:

Not so sure if that would be a good thing or not

well it obviously wuldnt be

pizzahater wrote:

who believes in freemasonry and why or why not?

Perhaps an introduction to the Freemasonry is in order ...

It gets it's name from the occupation of Masonry. Being a stonecutter or bricklayer. A mason is a builder and a worker in stone.

The Freemasonry appears to be a noble organization that has included many of the U.S. Presidents and many other peoples from all walks of life whether influential or unknown or rich or poor. It is the world's oldest fraternity. They honor the world's three main religions by displaying a Torah, a Holy Bible, and a Koran.

Some of their main symbols are the square, the compass, and the "G". They are all intended to represent that God is the master builder.

All you have to do to be an entry-level member is have a belief in God or a Higher Power and believe in doing good things in the world. Only males can join. And their meeting practices seem ritualistic such as the wearing of white gloves.

They are, however, enveloped in a shroud of controversy. There are conspiracy theories that they have influenced and caused the great events of history, among them including the design of the dollar bill and the Boston Tea Party that sparked the Revolutionary War. Some beieve that they are out to impose a one world government and install the Anti-Christ as the supreme ruler. Some believe that the Freemasonry emerged from the Knights Templar and are helping to keep or guard or protect the secret that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and have descendents and one day will reveal it to a ready world. But non of these have yet been proven.

anonymous california wrote:

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The Freemasonry appears to be a noble organization that has included many of the U.S. Presidents and many other peoples from all walks of life whether influential or unknown or rich or poor. It is the world's oldest fraternity. They honor the world's three main religions by displaying a Torah, a Holy Bible, and a Koran.
Some of their main symbols are the square, the compass, and the "G". They are all intended to represent that God is the master builder.

So a Freemason could be any one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

this had cool info i just have to wait now :/

Nobody wrote:

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So a Freemason could be any one?

Yes, apparantly so.

Anyone or any one. ;-)

That is, as far as social status goes. So you can be "nobody". But it is strictly limited to those deemed as having good moral character. So, you do have to at least be "somebody" in that regard. So, you can be a nobody/somebody at the same time. HA! Seriously though, early in American history, thay were known as the "know nothing" club. They are probaly pretty good with riddles. Hence, the "all-seeing eye" on the Great Seal symabol of the dollar bill. That is, if they really did "engineer" that design.:-)

In fact, speaking of riddles, the name "free" before "mason" or "masonry" may actually be a riddle alluding to something but what, if anything, is "IT"?

Which makes me wonder WHY so many 'federal' politians and 'hollywood' celebrities have been members. If they have to be of good moral standing. LOL!!!

There may even be a SECRET faction that never reveals themselves in a public way.

I think I might like to try and join the Freemasonry in the future and be a member if they would have me.

One thing I greatly admire about the Freemasons is that so many of them were U.S. Presidsents. I love American history and things about the presidency.

I kind of don't like the idea of being all ritualistic like in the wearing of white gloves though.

So, if there are any actual members, please post a comment.

This a really cool thread.

as far as a good moral standing I would think it would be very difficult to maintain such things when some individuals feel their pride is more important then the health and safety of the majority especially when the associates of the prideful individual seems to strike fear in everyone in the specific environment that we have to share and no one is willing to stand against them for fear of repercussion even though his actions are inexcusable

It seems to be unfolding like an old Clint Eastwood movie all we are missing is several hundred gallons of red paint and a bull whip.

Nobody wrote:

as far as a good moral standing I would think it would be very difficult to maintain such things when some individuals feel their pride is more important then the health and safety of the majority especially when the associates of the prideful individual seems to strike fear in everyone in the specific environment that we have to share and no one is willing to stand against them for fear of repercussion even though his actions are inexcusable
It seems to be unfolding like an old Clint Eastwood movie all we are missing is several hundred gallons of red paint and a bull whip.

You mean those in positions of power and authority? The politicians. Of course, your description of the prideful one and associates could also relate to these things called Topix trolls that keep coming out of the woodwork.

Wow. Great post. Pride does come before the fall, as the good book says. Something we all should really think about.

HA! Clint Eastwood. One of the great American actors. Though I think he got his start in foreign films. I can still remember him in "Every Which Way But Loose". The classic scene with the oruangatan ... "Right Turn, Clyde". LOL!!! I wonder if he is a freemason. Legendary actor John Wayne was. Speaking of Eastwood, he was really well-received at the recent 2012 RNC (Republican National Convention) with his off-the-wall invisible-Obama-empty-chair-sp eech. He probaly would've been a good politician.

Oh. Something else about Freemasons. They are never allowed to talk politics and religion at the meetings. I guess it's becasuse those are the two things that have led to more arguments among people than anything else.

pizza hater and nobody are the same people

Nobody's a Pizza hater?

Just for that, I think Gem129 is a potato hater

gem129 wrote:

pizza hater and nobody are the same people

Nobody wrote:

Nobody's a Pizza hater?
Just for that, I think Gem129 is a potato hater

Uh, you may both be on to something here.

A potato pizza topping!

anonymous california wrote:

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Uh, you may both be on to something here.
A potato pizza topping!

Id throw a pie at you for that one but I can not throw that far.

Nobody wrote:

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Id throw a pie at you for that one but I can not throw that far.

HA! I'll take that as a compliment. I like pizza and potatoes.

But if you do just happen to be pizzahater, it would be a long throw considering pizzahater's location says London (assuming England but there are other Londons). And if you are pizzahater, you hate pizzas -- so you wouldn't wanna toss me one out of kindness. LOL!!!

No, wait. I thought you meant a pizza pie. Oh, shoot.

Well, just throw a "piece of" (sounds like pizza) the pie. Maybe it'll go farther and with more speed, since it's not as heavy with all those toppings, like potatoes.

;-)

I have an idea of what the "G" might really mean. Or the "g".

THEY say the letter is an intitial used to represent geometry or God in relation to nature and God in creation of things and being the master builder.

But I have a different idea. Well, what they are saying could be -- depending on what or who they view as "nature's God".

It's in the shape. The way it looks. Not in the reading of the letter as standing for something. It could be a symbolic representastion of something -- or someone -- else.

I am not sure I should post what or who I think it may be because I could wrong.

But I will give a hint. Notice the way it goes from one endpoint to the other endpoint. The curving, the curl, the wave. Remind you of something in nature?

Considering the origins are in stonemason which geometry are a necessary part their of, along with the compass and square which can also be considered tools of both geometry and stonemasons, I think the "G" is more likely to reflect its origins and association with the necessary tools one of which was geometry.

Or it could be something like the stuff on the one dollar bill which seems more like 200 year old propaganda that was designed to screw with the minds of the British Empire during the revolution then any thing else.

The suggestion that the "G" has more then one meaning or perhaps has a different meaning for different people, in essence "it is what ever you make of it" may also be a possibility

Always leave them wondering and they'll never loose interest.

one more possibility the Masonic fraternity has been around for so long they may not even know. Meanings and symbols tend to get lost with time and so many other possibilities are created along the way sometimes its difficult to figure out which was the original answer