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TRANSFIGURATION&ST.ANTHONYS supposed merger

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Saturday Jul 26
 
ITALIAN wrote:
Questioning,
First of all I was offended by your response to our conversation sorry I called you a half breed but that is how I see things. Wrong or right I was raised that you marry your own. Because they are raised like you they understand your traditions and your families thought process.
I know that is old thinking but I am old. The only history that you probably know of your ancestors is the Italian side people with more than 2 nationalities don't know their historys or how they came about.
I am not all that miserable, I just have strong convictions. I am sure you are a good kid. But I am 89 years old and probably not going to change much at this point.
I am who I am
Dear ITALIAN,

I think it is wonderful for you to want to learn new things and take classes. I hope I can do that when I am your age, too.
I just wanted to remind you and also anyone else on this site that the Irish were severely discriminated against in this country just like the Italians. I think both nationalities make up the backbone of our country and are so much alike that a lot of them married. You hear so many people are both-Irish and Italian & are proud of both nationalities.
As you are a student, I went onto a site called Wikipedia and looked this up for you.
Have you ever heard of “INNA” signs from the late 1800's & early 1900’s? They stood for Irish Need Not Apply. The people of the United Sates would not even hire the Irish when they first came to this country. So, I think you might want to rethink your stand on the Irish being superior to the Italian. If anything from any history I have ever read, they both came over on the same boat and faced the same problems.

Think about this....

As far as the church past issues, perhaps it had more to do with a small select group of people and less to due with the Irish vs. the Italians. Don’t you think that makes more sense?
Here's what I copied and past from Wikapedia for you:
Anti-Irish racism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anti-Irish racism includes persecution, discrimination, hatred or fear of the Irish as an ethnic or national group, whether directed against Ireland in general or against Irish immigrants and their descendants in the diaspora particularly in the early days. It is traditionally rooted in the Irish and English relationship and their views of each other and is also evidenced in Irish immigration to other countries like the United States in the early days.
The term also applies to the religious persecution of Irish Roman Catholics.
Caricature political cartoon by Thomas Nast titled "The Usual Irish Way of Doing Things", purporting to depict an Irishperson, having consumed too much alcohol, lighting a powder keg and swinging a bottle. Published 1871-09-02 in Harper's Weekly.
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Saturday Jul 26
 
As "Italian" got me to thinking...
I hope you all know the thought on Transfiguration being the superior church because it was the Irish Church is very false.

Are you all forgetting about the hardships of the Irish in this country?

Don't you remember our history and how poor they were when they came over to the US?

I am sure the problems between the churches had more to do with personal conflicts or the people in power at that time and less to do with nationalites.

Read this...

Irish Immigrants in America during the 19th Century

"Though life in Ireland was cruel, emigrating to America was not a joyful event...it was referred to as the American Wake for these people knew they would never see Ireland again. Those who pursued this path did so only because they new their future in Ireland would only be more poverty, disease, and English oppression. America became their dream. Early immigrant letters described it as a land of abundance and urged others to follow them through the "Golden Door." These letters were read at social events encouraging the young to join them in this wonderful new country. They left in droves on ships that were so crowded, with conditions so terrible, that they were referred to as Coffin Ships.

Even as the boat was docking, these immigrants to America learned that life in America was going to be a battle for survival. Hundreds of runners, usually large greedy men, swarmed aboard the ship grabbing immigrants and their bags trying to force them to their favorite tenement house and then exact an outrageous fee for their services. As the poor immigrant had no means of moving on, they settled in the port of arrival. Almshouses were filled with these Irish immigrants. They begged on every street. One honest immigrant wrote home at the height of the potato famine exodus, "My master is a great tyrant, he treats me as badly as if I was a common Irishman." The writer further added, "Our position in America is one of shame and poverty." No group was considered lower than an Irishman in America during the 1850s."
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