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Edwin Edwards
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I don't see the relationship.
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chbpod wrote:
Edwin Edwards
I was thinking Larry Craig
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Edwin Edwards was a successful Louisiana politician who ended up being prosecuted, convicted and incarcerated for corruption...

Clark is saying that Paul should start stocking up his canteen account with soap-on-a-rope.
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Edwin Edwards was a successful Louisiana politician who ended up being prosecuted, convicted and incarcerated for corruption...
Clark is saying that Paul should start stocking up his canteen account with soap-on-a-rope.
Edwards most famous quote

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Edwin Edwards was a successful Louisiana politician who ended up being prosecuted, convicted and incarcerated for corruption...
Clark is saying that Paul should start stocking up his canteen account with soap-on-a-rope.
Scales, Paul is going to resign. It's only a matter of time. And, you still have not answered why you continue to refer to Jose as a woman. It seems you're having troubling accepting the fact that Paul is gay.
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There's nothing to this story. It's the first time the media has had an opportunity to attack an openly Gay Republican candidate. This issue is full of hypocracy by the Dems.
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Edwin Edwards was a successful Louisiana politician who ended up being prosecuted, convicted and incarcerated for corruption...
Clark is saying that Paul should start stocking up his canteen account with soap-on-a-rope.
I know who Edwin Edwards is (or was) but I just don't see the resemblance here. Edwards was as corrupt as Huey Long. Paul has an ex who is coming out to attempt to emberass him.
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chbpod wrote:
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Edwards most famous quote
are you referring to:“The only way I can lose is if I’m caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.”

although I like his reference to an opponent: "he's so slow it takes him an hours and a half to watch sixty minutes" (even though it doesn't apply here)
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Scales, Paul is going to resign. It's only a matter of time. And, you still have not answered why you continue to refer to Jose as a woman. It seems you're having troubling accepting the fact that Paul is gay.
Are you stalking me? I did answer your question, Jerkweed; pull your head out of your ass (or ask your mother to help you). Now, to continue where I left off...

Trust is the greatest treasure within any relationship. Resting on the laurels that Paul was “cheating” on Jose is a distraction from the issues. Jose’s visa was expiring, he wasn’t doing anything to renew it (very strange and curious in itself) and Paul was not confident that their relationship had a future.

By all accounts within the New Times article, there weren’t any episodes of betrayal or “abuse” during the relationship while Jose’s visa was still valid. Jose’s lawyer’s simplified statement that “their relationship went sour” is (statutorily) sufficient for Paul (or any person similarly situated) to pursue another partner.

Chronologically, at that time, Jose’s immigration status became “questionable” and he had already begun efforts to exact demise upon Paul – with Jose recklessly and maliciously reneging upon the previously agreed upon confidentiality of Paul’s sexuality (even to the extremes of engaging in various internet crimes).

Would it be a violation of that treasured Trust if a wife tells her [friends and co-workers] about her husband’s recent circumcision? Would a husband be betraying his wife if he discussed her labia-reduction surgery with his [friends and co-workers]?

Yes, there ARE reasonable and practical expectations of privacy within relationships (without formal “non-disclosure” agreements); in the examples given above, the fact that circumcision and labia-reduction surgeries did occur are insignificant to the Truth as a Defense clause.

The public disclosures would rest with the husband’s decision regarding his privacy and with the wife regarding her procedure; neither individual has any right to violate the privacy of the other.

Likewise, though already previously agreed upon by Jose, Paul had a fundamental “right” to decide when and how to publicly disclose his homosexuality, or to keep it private if he so chose (which is what Jose agreed to anyway at the onset of the relationship).

In retrospect, Jose does not have a Constitutionally-protected “right” or even a simple domestic “right” to have his evolving illegal immigrant status protected and concealed (unless, of course, he faced political persecution upon deportation – which isn’t the case).

Is there any evidence whatsoever during the month-long investigative reporting by New Times that Babeu (or anybody) ever “reported” Jose as now being illegal? No.

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There's nothing to this story. It's the first time the media has had an opportunity to attack an openly Gay Republican candidate. This issue is full of hypocracy by the Dems.
Like your story about Marie Haprin confirming the retard remark? Keep telling yourself that.

The media is attacking him for being gay? How? The issue is, much like Anthony Weiner's case, the lack of judgment in sending explicit pictures to someone Babeu knew to be a complete stranger. And then seeking a non-disclosure agreement. How can one consider themselves openly gay if they ask for a non-disclosure agreement? He was not forced to come out.
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Robert Moses wrote:
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are you referring to:“The only way I can lose is if I’m caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.”
although I like his reference to an opponent: "he's so slow it takes him an hours and a half to watch sixty minutes" (even though it doesn't apply here)
Yes Grasshopper--not a tight fit (probably that was a poor choice of words) but close---If I knew then what I know now- I would have advised him to do his Profiles in Courage paper on Edwards-- maybe he would have learned something from it
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Like your story about Marie Haprin confirming the retard remark? Keep telling yourself that.
The media is attacking him for being gay? How? The issue is, much like Anthony Weiner's case, the lack of judgment in sending explicit pictures to someone Babeu knew to be a complete stranger. And then seeking a non-disclosure agreement. How can one consider themselves openly gay if they ask for a non-disclosure agreement? He was not forced to come out.
I never said Harpin confirmed. I said she coud be heard on the open mike agreeing. There's a difference there between the words Confirming and agreeing. You can find that difference in the Dictonary or you could just Google it.

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Paul & Jose giving their sides

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/02/sheriff-paul...
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The media is attacking him for being gay? How? The issue is, much like Anthony Weiner's case, the lack of judgment in sending explicit pictures to someone Babeu knew to be a complete stranger. And then seeking a non-disclosure agreement. How can one consider themselves openly gay if they ask for a non-disclosure agreement? He was not forced to come out.
You are a flunking retard. Paul allegedly sent one (1) allegedly explicit photo to a complete stranger (who has been acknowledged to be Jose) you imbecile. What was it that Jose's own lawyer said about Truth as a Defense -- the alleged stranger was not a "stranger" at all, it was Jose.

I’d really like to see Topix hold you to the same standard of “privacy” that you feel Paul isn’t entitled to. If Topix disclosed your identity to us, you’d be crying like sissy-boy Solons! You entered into a “non-disclosure agreement” with Topix – Why? You are the definition of Hypocrite.

Who decides when it’s time for Praxis to come-out? Me, Sher, Clark, Robert Moses, Section 4x2, Voix, your sister, your partner? We all say that it’s not our decision to make. Certainly, the appropriate answer isn’t that YOU are the one to decide when and how to come-out… So, who is it, Praxis, who decides when a gay person should come out?
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You are a flunking retard. Paul allegedly sent one (1) allegedly explicit photo to a complete stranger (who has been acknowledged to be Jose) you imbecile. What was it that Jose's own lawyer said about Truth as a Defense -- the alleged stranger was not a "stranger" at all, it was Jose.
I’d really like to see Topix hold you to the same standard of “privacy” that you feel Paul isn’t entitled to. If Topix disclosed your identity to us, you’d be crying like sissy-boy Solons! You entered into a “non-disclosure agreement” with Topix – Why? You are the definition of Hypocrite.
Who decides when it’s time for Praxis to come-out? Me, Sher, Clark, Robert Moses, Section 4x2, Voix, your sister, your partner? We all say that it’s not our decision to make. Certainly, the appropriate answer isn’t that YOU are the one to decide when and how to come-out… So, who is it, Praxis, who decides when a gay person should come out?
Don't leave me out of this. I hate that solons punk and am just waiting for him to make his move.He is a puke face phoney liberal who hates veterans and the military. He reminds me of certain mill rats with their sarcastic "what did you do" when asking about a veterans service. The guy is a fraud and a pervert.

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Are you stalking me? I did answer your question, Jerkweed; pull your head out of your ass (or ask your mother to help you). Now, to continue where I left off...
Trust is the greatest treasure within any relationship. Resting on the laurels that Paul was “cheating” on Jose is a distraction from the issues. Jose’s visa was expiring, he wasn’t doing anything to renew it (very strange and curious in itself) and Paul was not confident that their relationship had a future.
By all accounts within the New Times article, there weren’t any episodes of betrayal or “abuse” during the relationship while Jose’s visa was still valid. Jose’s lawyer’s simplified statement that “their relationship went sour” is (statutorily) sufficient for Paul (or any person similarly situated) to pursue another partner.
Chronologically, at that time, Jose’s immigration status became “questionable” and he had already begun efforts to exact demise upon Paul – with Jose recklessly and maliciously reneging upon the previously agreed upon confidentiality of Paul’s sexuality (even to the extremes of engaging in various internet crimes).
Would it be a violation of that treasured Trust if a wife tells her [friends and co-workers] about her husband’s recent circumcision? Would a husband be betraying his wife if he discussed her labia-reduction surgery with his [friends and co-workers]?
Yes, there ARE reasonable and practical expectations of privacy within relationships (without formal “non-disclosure” agreements); in the examples given above, the fact that circumcision and labia-reduction surgeries did occur are insignificant to the Truth as a Defense clause.
The public disclosures would rest with the husband’s decision regarding his privacy and with the wife regarding her procedure; neither individual has any right to violate the privacy of the other.
Likewise, though already previously agreed upon by Jose, Paul had a fundamental “right” to decide when and how to publicly disclose his homosexuality, or to keep it private if he so chose (which is what Jose agreed to anyway at the onset of the relationship).
In retrospect, Jose does not have a Constitutionally-protected “right” or even a simple domestic “right” to have his evolving illegal immigrant status protected and concealed (unless, of course, he faced political persecution upon deportation – which isn’t the case).
Is there any evidence whatsoever during the month-long investigative reporting by New Times that Babeu (or anybody) ever “reported” Jose as now being illegal? No.
No, you have no answered my question my you continue to refer to Jose as female.

And, Paul cheated on Jose. And you talk about trust? Paul threatened him and his family. If Jose is in the U.S. on a tourist visa, then he is prohibited from working. As it appears he was working, and Paul (or his lawyer) threatened him about the status of his visa, then deportation could result because he would have violated the terms of his visa. So, the threat does appear credible.

As for your claims of some sort of constitutional violation, Paul is a public figure, and has put his identity as a sheriff on a dating website with explicit pictures. So, what reasonable expectation of privacy could he have had in his sexuality. It's rather rich to claim an invasion of privacy when you've put your naked body and identity on the internet for strangers to see.

And, is it possible for you to debate an issue with anyone without calling them names? Apparently not.

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I never said Harpin confirmed. I said she coud be heard on the open mike agreeing. There's a difference there between the words Confirming and agreeing. You can find that difference in the Dictonary or you could just Google it.
That is semantic nonsense. Marie denied it, and so has Lisa. And, now, a week later, this alleged tape of the meeting has yet to materialize.

Heard by who, you? Was there a camera on them when Blackmer said it? Obviously not. You don't know what you're talking about.

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Don't leave me out of this. I hate that solons punk and am just waiting for him to make his move.He is a puke face phoney liberal who hates veterans and the military. He reminds me of certain mill rats with their sarcastic "what did you do" when asking about a veterans service. The guy is a fraud and a pervert.
Ok, Ozzie. When are you ever going to make good on your pathetic threats. I don't hate veterans and the military. I think you are full of it, and I've said as much. You are an intolerant fool, who have said I like little boys. I should kick your ass up and down the Zylonite for saying so, but I don't want to have to delouse after I do so.
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That is semantic nonsense. Marie denied it, and so has Lisa. And, now, a week later, this alleged tape of the meeting has yet to materialize.
Heard by who, you? Was there a camera on them when Blackmer said it? Obviously not. You don't know what you're talking about.
You are right I forgot the old addage "believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see"

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