Appears that the right wing is totally against choiice of contraception by women. some seem to think there should be no choice by women to choose whether or not to use contraction to prevent pregnancy.Now it appears that most of those anti-choice folks appears to be mostly men. Something kind of odd there as I do believe that it is the ladies that make the choice of whether or not they make use of contraception. What do you fine folks think of the use of contraception. Are you for or against the use of contraception?? It was not many years ago that people were sentenced to jail aS IT WAS A PUNISHABLE CRIME for the use of or to buy contraceptives.

If I'm not paying for it, or the reason she needs it, then it's none of my business.

We've got many important issues in this country to deal with, but I don't think any of them are in that "area".

It's a man's right to keep a woman bare foot and pregnant.

Barry Dozer wrote:

It's a man's right to keep a woman bare foot and pregnant.

Dirty feet and raging hormones, I'll pass.

Folks, they tried to take that right away in several states previously. the latest state to try the no contraception law was defeated in Mississippi by a vote of great differences of opinion. It went down to defeat. But the far right wingers will try to bring it up in other states. It was not long ago ,1972 that a state had the use of traception as unlawful and jail time was the punishment.

Barry Dozer wrote:

It's a man's right to keep a woman bare foot and pregnant.

BARRY, you left out one important thing-- A man could also s---- himself out of a place at the dinner table impregnating his lady to many times adds up to no place at the dinner tableand losing his chair to watch the sports channels. That is a symtom of to many kids. A symtom that occurrs every day.

pappy wrote:

<quoted text> BARRY, you left out one important thing-- A man could also s---- himself out of a place at the dinner table impregnating his lady to many times adds up to no place at the dinner tableand losing his chair to watch the sports channels. That is a symtom of to many kids. A symtom that occurrs every day.

Yeah but lots of poor kids means plenty of needy cannon fodder for unpopular wars.

Once agin Hermit you hit the nail on the head,but agin you let out one important thing: The wealthy who own and run this goverment as thier own as a corporation actually want more competition for jobs and lots of cheap labor. The more births the better it is for the cheap labor market as it will be more people looking for that same job. We have been MALMATIZED. wHY DO YOU THINK COLLEEGE GRANTS HAVE DEEN DOWNSIZED--NO EDUCATION EQUALS CHEP LABOR.cHEAP LABOR EQUALS MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY . OR NEAR POVERTY. WHICH ONCE AGIN EQUALS CHEAP LABOR, ONCE AGIN WALMARTIZED.

jUST AN OBSERVATION OF THE NEWS AND THE ACTIONS OF THE REPUBLICANS---the republians did not want to use the pay as you go during the Bush years in office. but as Bush is now gone they want everything brought up in congress ,especially tax cuts for the working folks. It seems they now do not want to run up the debt ,vut they forget how much debt they ran up in the years past. Now suddenly thye become deficit watchdogs. But they never sought a pay as yougo plan when the rich got their tac cut that benefitted the rich and brought down their tax bracket to 15 percent for the rich and the filthy rich. No austerity plan there. During the Bush years a Republican never saw a spending bill they did not like, they just loved spending the tax payers money. During the years up to 2oo7 the Republicans were in control; of both houses. So at that time they had control over spending and deficits.

pappy wrote:

Once agin Hermit you hit the nail on the head,but agin you let out one important thing: The wealthy who own and run this goverment as thier own as a corporation actually want more competition for jobs and lots of cheap labor. The more births the better it is for the cheap labor market as it will be more people looking for that same job. We have been MALMATIZED. wHY DO YOU THINK COLLEEGE GRANTS HAVE DEEN DOWNSIZED--NO EDUCATION EQUALS CHEP LABOR.cHEAP LABOR EQUALS MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY . OR NEAR POVERTY. WHICH ONCE AGIN EQUALS CHEAP LABOR, ONCE AGIN WALMARTIZED.

Yeah I know we used to call it indentured servitude, now it will be Walmartized, slavery with another nice name

no birth control?
that is outrageous.
I'd like to know who is the 25% who don't want to use it.?

lynnie wrote:

no birth control?
that is outrageous.
I'd like to know who is the 25% who don't want to use it.?

The 25% who aren't getting any.

I bet the men who write this legislation against birt control are getting their VIAGRA paid for thriugh their Insurance. Remeber Limburger and his travels and the viagra?

The Catholic Church has come out against birth control as they do not want to pay for it as it is against their beliefs, now thats afact as they do not believ in birth control. do not want to furnish it to their employees working at church, schools, nor unaversities, nor hospitals. So waht about thsoe that work for them that are not of their belief. So what about the employees not of their faith or thsoe coming to the hospitals needing boirth control while in the hospital or attending their universities who use birth control-------wonder what happens to their rights. And a question--what happens to the federal funding that they recieve from the Federal; goverment. For schools, universities such as grants, and research and developement departemnts. Because of separation of church and state should their now be a separation of funding for those same facilities and the goverment. Or do Republicnas want it both ways as they are against birth control for adults?

Republicans are raising cane against birth control but are trying to change the subject to other than the economy as the economy is getting better. So they have once agin changed the subject in fear that the economy is gettinmg better and may no longer play as a political foot ball

As I have said before--a person should have a choice to use birth control if they so choose.

pappy wrote:

The Catholic Church has come out against birth control as they do not want to pay for it as it is against their beliefs, now thats afact as they do not believ in birth control. do not want to furnish it to their employees working at church, schools, nor unaversities, nor hospitals. So waht about thsoe that work for them that are not of their belief. So what about the employees not of their faith or thsoe coming to the hospitals needing boirth control while in the hospital or attending their universities who use birth control-------wonder what happens to their rights. And a question--what happens to the federal funding that they recieve from the Federal; goverment. For schools, universities such as grants, and research and developement departemnts. Because of separation of church and state should their now be a separation of funding for those same facilities and the goverment. Or do Republicnas want it both ways as they are against birth control for adults?

If you're not Catholic don't go to their schools or work in their companies/orgs.
As for funding, cut them off,they're not special and letting them be exempt while others aren't would be unconstitutional and wouldn't work well.

Hermit, the insurane laws in seversl states(28 to be exact) allows a church to not participate in allowing non particiataTION OF CONTRACEPTIVES---- BUT THEY DO NOT ALLOW THE OTHER RELIGIOUS AFFILIATES SUCH AS HOSPITALS OR UNIVERISITIES TO THAT SAME PROTECTION ,SO THEY MUST INCLUDE CONTRACEPTIES TO THEIR EMPLOYEES IF THEY ARE OFFERED INSURANCE--CONTRACEPTION MUST BE OFFERED. And I do believe in separation of church and state. So I do not know what the republicans are mad about in the insurance plan including contraception. Of which they are complaining about in Obama CARE. Even Romney had it in the insurance plan he was for and passed in Old Masechuetts. As do 28 other states. Republicans are against everything and anything that a democrat gets passed in congress. Now thats a fact.

If you want the pleasure of having sex with someone and don't want kids, that's your issue and you should pay for it.

Repubs and Dems are two sides of the same rotten apple.

How about that Viagra that men use Hermeit, when they have ED? thould they al;so pay for it? Even a flying cricket flea has sex and has no need for Viagra. Thjey are hornmy litle critters. Did you know that the flying cricket flea is the larget flea in the world. They can jump further than a regular flea because they make use of their wings.