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educationnotopti onal

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Mar 29, 2012
 

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I'm so tired of seeing kids not in school when they should be. Everyone seems to be 'homeschooling' these days. And what exactly does that mean? It means many parents are taking their children out of school and pretending to educate them at home when they aren't. That's neglect and is a great diservice to our children. They deserve an education so they can truly grow up and be whatever they want to be and not just another Welfare recipient. I think homeschooling rules need to change - every school-aged child should have to take a test at the end of each academic year and if they don't score a passing grade they should have to be enrolled in school. AND if the parents are on food stamps, etc, they should have to reimburse the funds. I am tired of seeing dumb kids who are just going to grow up to be dumb adults that we as society are going to be financially responsible for because they can't get a job. If they aren't disciplined enough to go to school every day, how are they going to go to work every day? Parents do your part! Be a parent or quit having more babies for the government to pay for! Lousy parenting needs to stop here - get your butts up and get your kids off to school and go to work like the rest of the world does! Quit slacking and raising your children to be slackers!
educationnotopti onal

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Mar 29, 2012
 
I know there are a few - VERY FEW -that are actually taught at home - but even these children are never going to get the social skills they need to go on to college or the working world. Eventually they have to get out in the world, the real world - homeschooling is putting off the inevitable.
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Mar 30, 2012
 
You are entitled to your opinion,however my friends in the Sparta area and elsewhere have done an exemplary job,98% of the kids I know have went on to college and graduated.One reason people homeschool is because of the bullying in public school and the refusal of administrators to protect the victims.If you don't think that's true you should check an old Sparta topix thread called "Is there still bullying at Sparta school?"or some similar name.
educationnotopti onal

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Mar 30, 2012
 
homeschooler wrote:
You are entitled to your opinion,however my friends in the Sparta area and elsewhere have done an exemplary job,98% of the kids I know have went on to college and graduated.One reason people homeschool is because of the bullying in public school and the refusal of administrators to protect the victims.If you don't think that's true you should check an old Sparta topix thread called "Is there still bullying at Sparta school?"or some similar name.
Unfortunately bullying is a fact of life. It's in every single school there is - whether public or private. Children have to learn to work through it as they will deal with bullying in their adult life as well. I believe the job of a parent is to prepare your child for life - and by taking them out of school you are merely placing them in a plastic bubble temporarily that eventually will get popped - the reality is they have to be out amongst the public eventually. Can you imagine how stressful it would be to never go to school then attempt college? It's why very few homeschoolers can handle it. There has to be a balance. And it has to be realistic. You aren't fixing the problem by removing them from society - you are just alienating your child and keeping them from having the good part about school which is to make friends and take part in class and in sports. You are cripplying that child in more ways than you are helping them. It's sad...
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Mar 30, 2012
 
It's situational.
My sister in-law obtained a teaching degree to do this very thing.
They choose the best private classes outside of what they are taught at home to attend. If you've been to any vocal , dance , art , piano, even equestrian performance you've seen one, if not most of them. There is actually a huge network .
Various languages that arent taught in public schools they've already leaned... when taught about a location they actually travel to that location .... and what area each child has made a choice to focus on ... they in fact top their competitor. 3 of the oldest are in college already . They wont accept a dime of assistance. Its against their principles .
Otherwise, unless I had seen what a good option it can be first hand I might feel the same.
Would I do it ....... NO WAY And I have one that tested out of three grade levels.
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Mar 30, 2012
 
incog wrote:
It's situational.
My sister in-law obtained a teaching degree to do this very thing.
They choose the best private classes outside of what they are taught at home to attend. If you've been to any vocal , dance , art , piano, even equestrian performance you've seen one, if not most of them. There is actually a huge network .
Various languages that arent taught in public schools they've already leaned... when taught about a location they actually travel to that location .... and what area each child has made a choice to focus on ... they in fact top their competitor. 3 of the oldest are in college already . They wont accept a dime of assistance. Its against their principles .
Otherwise, unless I had seen what a good option it can be first hand I might feel the same.
Would I do it ....... NO WAY And I have one that tested out of three grade levels.
This type of parent is the exception not the rule.We all see those that are no schooled not home schooled. That is the reason I think there should be testing to make sure they can read, write, and do math at a level they can succeed.
a lot of states does just that. I knew a person that had that job in the state of Texas.
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At this writing Sparta School does not even offer a foreign language,they prefer to spend money on sports.Academically some schools are just not acceptable.I am greatful that we live in a free country where we have "School Choice".But you seem to see a bunch of truant students who claim to be homeschooled rather than the real thing.Those are offensive to everybody.
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You are, more than likely, the wellfare bum. I homeschool my kids and and pay taxes for yours to go to the State. The American public school system is a joke in it's self. The reason people opt to send their children to the STATE is because they don't have the intelegence to teach them themselves, or if they do, it is because they don't want to take responsibality and they are the ones who should consider not haveing any more chidren. Society is already brainwashed enough buy the STATE.
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antistate wrote:
You are, more than likely, the wellfare bum. I homeschool my kids and and pay taxes for yours to go to the State. The American public school system is a joke in it's self. The reason people opt to send their children to the STATE is because they don't have the intelegence to teach them themselves, or if they do, it is because they don't want to take responsibality and they are the ones who should consider not haveing any more chidren. Society is already brainwashed enough buy the STATE.
Thank you for helping me make my point - some parents are not intelligent enough to home school. You had several incorrect spellings ie "intelligence, responsibility, having". Perhaps you should rethink sending yours to someone who can better teach them.
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One thing small children tend to bring home from public school(besides headlice) is some real bad language that some us do not use at home ,and some age-inappropriate sex education from other 5-year olds.A kid that age should not know about the physical components of homosexual sex.Do you,by the way,also object to parochial schools?
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Apr 1, 2012
 
homeschooler wrote:
One thing small children tend to bring home from public school(besides headlice) is some real bad language that some us do not use at home ,and some age-inappropriate sex education from other 5-year olds.A kid that age should not know about the physical components of homosexual sex.Do you,by the way,also object to parochial schools?
I dont object to any school or place (including a home) where a child is getting a real education - but they should be monitored so deadbeat parents who aren't teaching them won't allow the child to fall between the cracks. Children who are homeschooled miss out on the socializing and that's something you cannot teach at home. All of us dealt with bullies and bad circumstances going to school - however, if you are taught at home and in church about GOOD life decisions, the child will surpass this and flourish. Eventually they will be out in the world amongst society - I think it's better to do so gradually in school than to just wait until they are 18 and throw them to the wolves. I think it's child neglect to not give ALL children an education where they can go on to college or be whoever they want to be. But if a parent is giving them that - isn't educating them properly - then that's neglect. It's very near abuse...
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educationoptional wrote:
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I dont object to any school or place (including a home) where a child is getting a real education - but they should be monitored so deadbeat parents who aren't teaching them won't allow the child to fall between the cracks. Children who are homeschooled miss out on the socializing and that's something you cannot teach at home. All of us dealt with bullies and bad circumstances going to school - however, if you are taught at home and in church about GOOD life decisions, the child will surpass this and flourish. Eventually they will be out in the world amongst society - I think it's better to do so gradually in school than to just wait until they are 18 and throw them to the wolves. I think it's child neglect to not give ALL children an education where they can go on to college or be whoever they want to be. But if a parent is giving them that - isn't educating them properly - then that's neglect. It's very near abuse...
I DO believe children come to school with a moral & behavior code that's already ingrained from home and family, and can usually overcome any bad situation at school. However, as a former teacher, I also see some very timid, sweet children who have to put up with horrible behavior from other students because public schools seem to lack the ability or fortitude to deal with these constantly bullying, attention-seeking children. As parents allow the schools to take care of everything - meals, snacks, weight & physical strength, behavior, character building, responsibility learning, not to mention academics!- more and more public school children are coming ill equipped to handle group situations. The focus becomes less on academics and more on crowd control!(Not to mention overbearing parents who never accept the blame for their child's lack of control) IF parents are concerned, intelligent, continue to network with other parents & children, I don't see anything wrong with homeschooling. I remember almost applauding when a student-with irate parents- left to be "home-schooled." Yes, as a teacher I felt guilty knowing that children would NOT be getting what they needed to be educated, but then I could concentrate on working with the remaining 21 students. It's a fine line we tread as we try to mold students who come with horrible habits, attitudes, often little sleep, etc., etc.
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Also, I believe the title home school vs real school is misleading. Home school can be real school when done correctly, for the right reasons, and by intelligent, caring parents who are self-disciplined enough to teach their child(ren). Missouri does need to toughen the rules & testing for home-schoolers, though.
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Children who are homeschooled miss out on the socializing and that's something you cannot teach at home. All of us dealt with bullies and bad circumstances going to school - however, if you are taught at home and in church about GOOD life decisions, the child will surpass this and flourish. Eventually they will be out in the world amongst society - I think it's better to do so gradually in school than to just wait until they are 18 and throw them to the wolves.

Actually, I think it's child abuse to "throw them to the wolves" before they're 18, and I view some public schools as just that - full of wolves & bullies who pick on children who know how to behave and children who are respectful. How many of you were traumatized at some point by hurtful, harmful words at a young, tender age? Why do you think suicide among children and teens is at an all-time high and continually rising? Schools aren't handling the bullying, and other parents make excuses for their aggressive, ill-mannered child, so the cycle continues. A parent who home-schools, keeps their child involved in sports and academic teams, contests, etc. are integrating their child into social areas and even competition for this dog-eat-dog world. But WHY expose them to a daily regimen of mean, mean kids?! Home schoolers are often the ones who win spelling bees, art contests, and even have their own competitions in sports.(Springfield just hosted a home schoolers' basketball tournament) Just as I wouldn't categorize ALL schools as poor schools, I wouldn't categorize all home-schooling parents as borderline neglectful or abusive parents. Just my humble opinion.
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Apr 2, 2012
 
OOPS - sorry, in the previous post the first paragraph was a quote from post #11. Thank you.

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My youngest was home schooled and I would put his knowledge and social skills up against any kid in the public school system. He has manners,real job skills besides knowing that Wellington beat Napoleon at Waterloo. He can assemble a computer from scratch, he plays guitar and wants to be a writer. He will be off to college soon not because I want him to but because he wants to. He understands things like paying bills,checking accounts and credit cards.If a parent or adult child is there to actually home school the child it can be a great experience.
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Sounds like you're raising a good student & a great citizen! Nice job on your part & your son's!
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I think former teacher made an important point about sweet ,timid children being relentlessly bullied because public schools don't have the fortitude(and they don't care enough)to stop it.It is mainly children like this whom I have seen pulled out of public school to homeschool or go to christian schools ,for their SAFETY.When that is not possible you may get to hear about them on the news because they were driven to suicide.
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May 26, 2012
 
I am homeschool and choose to be because I want to be home and out of the drama.
my point exactly

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May 27, 2012
 
antistate wrote:
You are, more than likely, the wellfare bum. I homeschool my kids and and pay taxes for yours to go to the State. The American public school system is a joke in it's self. The reason people opt to send their children to the STATE is because they don't have the intelegence to teach them themselves, or if they do, it is because they don't want to take responsibality and they are the ones who should consider not haveing any more chidren. Society is already brainwashed enough buy the STATE.
h-a-v-i-n-g having (NOT haveing)

w-e-l-f-a-r-e welfare (NOT wellfare)

also intellegence and responsibility is spelled wrong and 'it's self' is used inappropriately. And you think you are doing your child(ren)a service. More like an injustice. I wouldn't want my child taught by you. What a joke of a parent you are...

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