Bloomberg Says Gun Show Dealers Often Violate Law

Mr_Bill wrote:

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Your argument is with the founding fathers. You do not understand America.

Mr_Bill wrote:

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Wrong again.
Sorry, son, you are always wrong.

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Caffeinated wrote:

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Time for you to go back and read what you wrote. It doesn't say anything like that. You had a hodge podge of vagueness.
I'm not Dionne Warwick.
Nice try, moron. ROTFLMAO!!

Mr_Bill wrote:

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You do, as does the Supreme Court, misread and misinterpret the 2nd Amendment.
It is about preserving the Union with a 'well organized militia'the present version is the NATIONAL GUARD.
However, your misreading is now the law of the land.

Mr_Bill wrote:

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You do, as does the Supreme Court, misread and misinterpret the 2nd Amendment.
It is about preserving the Union with a 'well organized militia,' the present version is the NATIONAL GUARD.
However, your misreading is now the law of the land.

Wolverine wrote:

<quoted text>Horseshit! The National Guard was not formed for 127 years after the BOR was added to the Constitution. There is no way in hades that the 2nd was referring to the "National Guard".

okimar wrote:

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You do realize you're talking to an ideolog liberal who is flat lining,right? No real appreciable brain activity registering to be found on the chart......

Wolverine wrote:

<quoted text>Yes. But to let the madman continue without rebuttal, will allow the ignorant masses to believe it.

okimar wrote:

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Fortunately the ignorant masses are becoming less numerous by the day. Obama is fast wearing on people.

Seen It Before wrote:

<quoted text>How DARE you speak ill of "Our Fearless Leader" Recipient of The Nobel Peace Prize! Giving that to him is like presenting The Congressional Medal Of Honor to a MALLCOP for chasing a shoplifter.

Another Voice Heard From wrote:

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What the hell is that, the (allegedly adult) version of "I'm right, you're wrong, so there"?
If I'm wrong,, PROVE me wrong, your opinions, much as your opinion on how the 2nd Amendment is interpreted, are worthless.
I cited US Supreme Court case law....you show me something that PROVES otherwise.
Otherwise, don't bother to respond.

Boomer215 wrote:

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In order to "preserve the Union" from foriegn and domestic threats,
the Constitution gave Congress the power to “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”
AND “To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States,..”
Makes little sense for the States to later add the 2nd Amendments-"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Little sense that is unless the goal of the States was in "preserving the Union" from tyranny by the national government.
The 2nd Amendment restrained the power of the national government.
The "militia" mentioned in it was, and are, the citizens of each State, a States military force.
The United States Nation Guard may be described as the Militia of Article 1, section 8, However it is at best a 'select militia' which "may be employed in the Service of the United States", not the "Militia" of the 2nd Amendment.

Mr_Bill wrote:

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The Supreme Court has disregarded the idea of an organized militia, and pretends that everyone is 'militia.'
Are illegal aliens part of the Supreme Court's definition of militia?
Yes. Some organized militia.
That is the law of the land. It is a perversion of our constitution, but that is the ruling of the present Supreme Court.

Mr_Bill wrote:

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The Supreme Court has disregarded the idea of an organized militia, and pretends that everyone is 'militia.'
Are illegal aliens part of the Supreme Court's definition of militia?
Yes. Some organized militia.
That is the law of the land. It is a perversion of our constitution, but that is the ruling of the present Supreme Court.

Boomer215 wrote:

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You stated on your post #107-
"You do, as does the Supreme Court, misread and misinterpret the 2nd Amendment.
It is about preserving the Union with a 'well organized militia,' the present version is the NATIONAL GUARD."
That's what I responded to. So why don't you support with facts your statement about the intent of the 2nd, instead of deflecting by telling me what the SCROTUS says. It didn't post message # 107, you did.

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Mr_Bill wrote:

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Before we had a national guard, we had commissioned officers, usually raising their own regional troops into a militia, to assist the Continental Army.
When the Department of the Army was established, private commissions were obsolete. There are no more US Militia, such as "The Philadelphia Militia" and the original "Minutemen."
As the US Army replaced General Washington's Continental Army; the State militias, National Guard, became the reserves.
The National Guard canot be disarmed by the Federal Governmnet, although during national crisis they can be FEDERALIZED.

Mr_Bill wrote:

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The case you sited had nothing to do with registration of guns and the second amendment. It was a 5th Amendment case.
Perhaps I should say that rather than wrong, thay you are confused.

Mr_Bill wrote:

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Before we had a national guard, we had commissioned officers, usually raising their own regional troops into a militia, to assist the Continental Army.
When the Department of the Army was established, private commissions were obsolete. There are no more US Militia, such as "The Philadelphia Militia" and the original "Minutemen."
As the US Army replaced General Washington's Continental Army; the State militias, National Guard, became the reserves.
The National Guard canot be disarmed by the Federal Governmnet, although during national crisis they can be FEDERALIZED.

Mr_Bill wrote:

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Before we had a national guard, we had commissioned officers, usually raising their own regional troops into a militia, to assist the Continental Army.
When the Department of the Army was established, private commissions were obsolete. There are no more US Militia, such as "The Philadelphia Militia" and the original "Minutemen."
As the US Army replaced General Washington's Continental Army; the State militias, National Guard, became the reserves.
The National Guard canot be disarmed by the Federal Governmnet, although during national crisis they can be FEDERALIZED.