Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,796

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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thisGuy

Stephenville, TX

#146003 Jun 15, 2012
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
Translation, you were making an inept point that you cannot support.
<quoted text>
THE majority of heterosexual marriages fail. 68%, in fact, will fail.
So, your idiotic notions about marriage are far from apt. Do you have any legitimate state interest served by denying equal protection of the law to same sex couples as mandated by the 14th Amendment, which would render your argument relevant?
"Translation, you were making an inept point that you cannot support."
-REAL Translation: You're gay marriage is about as pointless as boys who fuck dogs, & moms who fall in with their 8 yrs old daughters.

"So, your idiotic notions about marriage are far from apt. Do you have any legitimate state interest served by denying equal protection of the law to same sex couples as mandated by the 14th Amendment, which would render your argument relevant?"
-Yeah I do! What's next? You're gonna marry your dog? Your 12 yrs old adopted son? Or your toaster? It's disgusting, like homosexuality.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#146004 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
-REAL Translation: You're gay marriage is about as pointless as boys who fuck dogs, & moms who fall in with their 8 yrs old daughters.
Wow, that was short, yet pointless. Do you have a valid argument? Bestiality and incest are already illegal, homosexuality by the way is not, and there is a legitimate state interest served by such restrictions. Can you indicate any such legitimate state interest served y denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry that would make your argument a) valid, and b) constitutional? I donít think you do.
thisGuy wrote:
-Yeah I do! What's next? You're gonna marry your dog? Your 12 yrs old adopted son? Or your toaster? It's disgusting, like homosexuality.
Wow, you really arenít that bright, are you?

A dog, a 12 year old, and a toaster each have one thing in common; do you know what that is? Each lack the ability to grant legal consent, and none can enter into a legal contract.

Do you have a rational argument for your position?

Oh, and I think it is simply precious that it took you multiple posts to respond. What's the matter, can't take the time to compose a rational thought?

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146005 Jun 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
You shoot in the wrong direction, can't miss a target by more.
The gay twirl that "children are not a requirement of marriage" is the 'concept'.
I simply point out that children ARE a part of 96% of marriages.
You have no argument for that reality, so you try to change the issue, which also exposes your character.
The "issue" is that it's not a requirement of marriage. The only one trying to change the issue is the dipshyt who keeps stating fake statistics about 96%, as if that somehow alters the facts.

You state, "I simply point out that children ARE a part of 96% of marriages. You have no argument.....". Um, we don't need one. You've presented nothing that needs to be argued. Because what you presented doesn't challenge the FACT that children aren't required.

The fact, and the issue, are that, even if 99.9% of marriages produced children, it would still not be a requirement, and therefore is completely irrlevant in a discussion about marriage. Of course you already know this, but you are completely incapable of producing a valid state interest in denying gay people marriage equality so you just repeat the same bullshyt over and over and over. You remind me of the pigeon that wanted to play chess. I flew down on the board, flapped its wings and knocked off all the pieces, then shyt on the board flying off screaching "I won, I won".

Marriages that don't produce children, be they 1% or 50%, are no less marriages in the eyes of the federal government, or your god for that matter. These marriages are accorded no fewer rights because the two married individuals do not procreate. But don't let these facts stop you from bringing it up ad nauseum as if you have something to say that hasn't been addressed and debunked day in and day out. Baseless repetition is the sin qua non of those that have no real arguement or platform.
thisGuy

Stephenville, TX

#146006 Jun 15, 2012
Ah, you lefties love equality, even when it's not true. Right = left. Love = lust. Truth = lies. Common sense = stupidity. Women = men. Homosexual = straight. Two daddies = two mommies = one dad and one mommy. Muslim countries = Christian countries. Single parent family = traditional family.

ROFL

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#146007 Jun 15, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
The Texas paper wasn't a valid "study". It lacked the methodology to qualify.
http://www.prc.utexas.edu/nfss/
Released on 08AUG12 it's been shredded by peer review.
Anyone with even a basic research methodology course can see flaws right off the mark.
The more you know the more you can see, and the more you know how to see.
Those are the same 'peers' who said every previous now debunked study 'proved' the opposite, right?

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146008 Jun 15, 2012
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
The Texas paper wasn't a valid "study". It lacked the methodology to qualify.
http://www.prc.utexas.edu/nfss/
Released on 08AUG12 it's been shredded by peer review.
Anyone with even a basic research methodology course can see flaws right off the mark.
The more you know the more you can see, and the more you know how to see.
KiMare knows this already, but has nothing else so he just likes to resort back to his pretend land.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146009 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they don't prevent others from procreating,
If you know this, then why is it the crux of your "argument"? Now you just made yourself sound even stupider.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#146010 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
"So, your idiotic notions about marriage are far from apt. Do you have any legitimate state interest served by denying equal protection of the law to same sex couples as mandated by the 14th Amendment, which would render your argument relevant?"
-Yeah I do! What's next? You're gonna marry your dog? Your 12 yrs old adopted son? Or your toaster? It's disgusting, like homosexuality.
I'll bet you really imagined yourself as actually having a rational argument here, but you don't. You haven't answered the question of what is the compelling state interest served by denying the right to marry to those who wish to marry the same sex. Sorry, your irrational paranoia of "what's next" doesn't qualify. Besides, you f*cking imbecile, the state has a compelling interest served in keeping marriage as a consensual agreement between the parties. Dogs, toasters and little kids can't provide that consent, moron. Are you this much of an irrational idiot when discussing every subject or are you reserving such abject stupidity just for us?

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146011 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
98% of human population still agrees marriage is defined as a union between a man & a woman.
I love that you fundies think you can just make up statistics. Nothing demonstrates your complete lack of integrity more than made up statistics!

http://pollingreport.com/civil.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_o...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/21/us-...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147662/first-time-...

Oh, and the majority of the educated human population is also aware that when gays get married, marriage is not magically somehow no longer between men and women still. That's just more nonsense rhetoric from those that can't find a real argument to support their pre-existing prejudices.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146012 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
Majority of heterosexuals married couple actually do have kids. So your pseudo-marriage still fails.
You didn't answer the question. Typical of those tap dancing around in their own bullshyt!
thisGuy

Stephenville, TX

#146013 Jun 15, 2012
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, that was short, yet pointless. Do you have a valid argument? Bestiality and incest are already illegal, homosexuality by the way is not, and there is a legitimate state interest served by such restrictions. Can you indicate any such legitimate state interest served y denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry that would make your argument a) valid, and b) constitutional? I donít think you do.
<quoted text>
Wow, you really arenít that bright, are you?
A dog, a 12 year old, and a toaster each have one thing in common; do you know what that is? Each lack the ability to grant legal consent, and none can enter into a legal contract.
Do you have a rational argument for your position?
Oh, and I think it is simply precious that it took you multiple posts to respond. What's the matter, can't take the time to compose a rational thought?
"Can you indicate any such legitimate state interest served y denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry that would make your argument a) valid, and b) constitutional?"
-Sure! Gay marriage isn't part of the Constitution LOL

"Wow, you really arenít that bright, are you?"
-Depends on how stupid you are.

"A dog, a 12 year old, and a toaster each have one thing in common; do you know what that is? Each lack the ability to grant legal consent, and none can enter into a legal contract."
-So no restrictions as long as consensual? Sounds like a good excuse to legal marriage between a person & a pet or a person & child. ROFL.

"Do you have a rational argument for your position?"
-Yes. Pets & children love their [adopted] parents/owners. I can see Gays (Sexual perverts) trying to take that "love" to a whole new level with sexual child abuse & animal cruelty...ROFL

"Oh, and I think it is simply precious that it took you multiple posts to respond. What's the matter, can't take the time to compose a rational thought?"
-What rational thought? That Gays are perverts? Gee, I already knew that!...ROFL

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146014 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
"Translation, you were making an inept point that you cannot support."
-REAL Translation: You're gay marriage is about as pointless as boys who fuck dogs, & moms who fall in with their 8 yrs old daughters.
"So, your idiotic notions about marriage are far from apt. Do you have any legitimate state interest served by denying equal protection of the law to same sex couples as mandated by the 14th Amendment, which would render your argument relevant?"
-Yeah I do! What's next? You're gonna marry your dog? Your 12 yrs old adopted son? Or your toaster? It's disgusting, like homosexuality.
Let us know when state and federal laws are established based on what nitcompoops find icky.

Nice language by the way. Did you learn that in Sunday School this week, while pretending that you are a pillar of morality?

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146015 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
Ah, you lefties love equality, even when it's not true. Right = left. Love = lust. Truth = lies. Common sense = stupidity. Women = men. Homosexual = straight. Two daddies = two mommies = one dad and one mommy. Muslim countries = Christian countries. Single parent family = traditional family.
ROFL
Still got nothing I see. Don't sweat it, no one has any expectations that you will demonstrate a shread of intelligence here. One can only imagine that the bar has been lowered for you repeatedly in life in order to allow you to feel you are moving ahead.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#146016 Jun 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
-Sure! Gay marriage isn't part of the Constitution LOL
Funny, the 14th Amendment mandates that states provide ALL PERSONS within their jurisdiction equal protection of the laws. Marirage is one such protection in every state in the union.
thisGuy wrote:
-Depends on how stupid you are.
Well, you are proviing to be most unintelligent.
thisGuy wrote:
-So no restrictions as long as consensual? Sounds like a good excuse to legal marriage between a person & a pet or a person & child. ROFL.
Restrictions may be made, if doing so serves a compelling state interest. Youíve yet to indicate any such interest served by denying same sex couples the right to marry.
thisGuy wrote:
-Yes. Pets & children love their [adopted] parents/owners. I can see Gays (Sexual perverts) trying to take that "love" to a whole new level with sexual child abuse & animal cruelty...ROFL
I never made the argument of love, I have made an argument of equal protection of the laws. Marriage requires the ability to legally consent, which pets inherently lack.
You are making a terribly foolish argument on this point.
thisGuy wrote:
-What rational thought? That Gays are perverts? Gee, I already knew that!...
Then you are free not to enter into a marriage with someone who is gay. Homsoexuality is not, however a crime, nor is it a sickness for that matter. Feel free to make a valid argument, I don't think you can.
thisGuy wrote:
ROFL
So do pigs. Have you ever heard that one can judge someone by the company they keep?
thisGuy

Stephenville, TX

#146018 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Still got nothing I see. Don't sweat it, no one has any expectations that you will demonstrate a shread of intelligence here. One can only imagine that the bar has been lowered for you repeatedly in life in order to allow you to feel you are moving ahead.
What "shred of intelligence"? That a man/woman marriage is different from man/man, woman/woman, man/dog, woman/dog, man/child, woman/child marriage? Sorry, how "homophobic" of me </sarcasm>
thisGuy

Stephenville, TX

#146019 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Let us know when state and federal laws are established based on what nitcompoops find icky.
Nice language by the way. Did you learn that in Sunday School this week, while pretending that you are a pillar of morality?
No, I learned it from the Interwebs...LOLOLOLOLOL
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#146020 Jun 15, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't make a spill about Romney, I made a spill about Brian_G and those like him that opposed Romney for months because he's a Morman, but now back him completely because they don't have a choice. How hypocritical they are, and how they lack any semblance of integrity.
Perhaps next time you should read the post I'm responding to before diving in like an idiot.
Well fine, glad you explained what you wrote, next time be more clear. Let's change the topic to choices and why we make them. Are you really driving in right now, then I guess you are an idiot.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#146021 Jun 15, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
Well fine, glad you explained what you wrote, next time be more clear. Let's change the topic to choices and why we make them. Are you really driving in right now, then I guess you are an idiot.
Why change the topic just because you are losing?

Even if we did, what state interest is served by denying same sex couples the choice to marry the adult consenting partner of their choosing?

It appears your argument fails to rise to the level of having a rational basis.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#146022 Jun 15, 2012
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
Why change the topic just because you are losing?
Even if we did, what state interest is served by denying same sex couples the choice to marry the adult consenting partner of their choosing?
It appears your argument fails to rise to the level of having a rational basis.
Let me explain, I was asking why Johah was changing the topic. And what am I losing? Who is keeping tabs here? Is this a big contest? What can I win? Once the count has been calculated, will this forum be sent to the State with the results? If only you were married, think how happy you would be this morning instead of being so angry and on the edge, marriage makes everyone happy all the time...LOL!!!!(dan taught me that)

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#146023 Jun 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are the same 'peers' who said every previous now debunked study 'proved' the opposite, right?
Watching you so deserately cling to the Retgerus "Study" is hilarious!!! I bet you think gay men live 20 years less then heterosexual men too!!! LOL!! Or that gay men end up in diapers!!! Ooooh, oooh, I know....do you also think that I was abused as a child??!!!! Oh, oh, I know, let me guess, you also have proof that the gays ran the Nazi party, right hon!!! I'm sure you've got the proof of that on your "favorites" tab!!!!

Tell us the one about how our marriages will lead to polygamy, incest, necrophilia and beastiality!!! That one's always good for an afternoon chuckle. Make sure to present the cause and effect now won't you hon?!! No one on your side has been able to demonstrate that, but I'm sure given the mass amount of studies you keep claiming to have, I'm confident that YOU, KiMare, will be the one to rescue your side's cause from the increasingly out of control mess it has become!!! Save your people KiMare!! Save them with the Retgerus "study"!!!!

After you get done with that, can you come back and demonstrate how the overturning of Don't Ask Don't Tell has weakened our armed forces? That one is one of my favorites. Make sure to bring plenty of specific examples, won't you hon?!! What about choice and reperative theory? Got any golden Paul Cameron nuggets you can throw in? LOL!!!!!

You're really Anita Bryant, aren't you? Come on KiMare, you can level with us!!

As the Retgerus' "study" is rightfully dismissed as the propaganda it is by the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Psychoanalytic Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the Child Welfare League of America, the North American Council on Adoptable Children, and Canadian Psychological Association, please make sure to come back here day in and day out defending it, ok hon??!!! Nothing would make you look more credible!!!! LOL!!!! Make sure to attack the credibility of these organizations rather than countering the actual reasons why Retgerus' "study" has become the joke of the week within the expert community!!! We'll be right here waiting to watch the show!!

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