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Jan 5, 2008

Questions and answers about the Mormon faith

Since he entered the race, Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney has faced questions about his Mormon faith.

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Jay

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Jan 6, 2008
 
Before voting for Romney, use due diligence, and investigate and analyze all of their beliefs. The Mormon Cult Sect doesn't want anyone to review the facts about their weirdo so-called faith; buried golden tablets, magical underwear, living on other planets, becoming gods themselves, baptism for other religion's dead ( including Jewish), after death having over 100 wifes (sounds like the terrorist beliefs in Iraq), their false prophet Hinckley having revelations from God, teachings that God currently inhabits a actual physical body, not being permitted to think for themselves apart from the group, and only accept what they are told by their Sect elders, and that all non-mormons (they call us Gentiles) will go to Hades. While Mormons share some beliefs with Christians, they are not Christians, and have perverted Christian teachings to create a false religion, with false prophecies and false teachings.
Even the actor Robert Redford, who has lived in Park City, UT, for over a decade, has spoken out on Mitt Romney and Mormons. "(Mormons) are very adept at not being fazed and speaking fluently and gracefully. Why? Because every single male who's a Mormon goes on a mission for two years when they're 19 or 20.... They learn how to deflect blows and stay on message. No wonder Utah is the place that all these Republican senators go. It's perfect. So when you see Mitt Romney, he's already practicing how to deflect blows and stay on message. But it's plastic."
Romney has back himself into a corner--insisting that religion should play a role in politics, and yet insisting that his religion should not be examined. The secretive Cult Sect made a last ditch effort, to avoid public scrutiny, by saying no religious "litmus" test should exist, and thus Romney would not be open to answer or reveal any specific questions on his faith. Forget about it, Mitt, "Silence will NOT be a option."
If you want a "brain-washed", "mind-controlled", "puppet" President, then by all means, vote for Williard (Mitt) Romney.
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Jan 6, 2008
 
Timothy Garton Ash
Thursday December 27, 2007
The Guardian (British Newspaper)

The angel Moroni allegedly appeared in the 1820s to a young American treasure hunter called Joseph Smith, and led him to some golden plates buried on a hillside near his home in western New York. Allegedly written in an otherwise unknown language called Reformed Egyptian, and deciphered with the aid of two stones called Urim and Thummim, these texts became the Book of Mormon. So it really doesn't matter what irrational belief you have as long as you have some irrational belief.
My residual problem with Romney being a Mormon is not that Mormonism is a faith (the atheist's problem), or that Mormonism is not unambiguously Christian (the Christian's problem), but that it seems such a wacky collection of man-made Moronical codswallop. And I do find myself wondering - even if he is a natural conservative, even if Mormonism is, as he puts it, "the faith of my fathers", including the most recent father whom he hero-worshipped - how on earth a well-educated man who aspires to lead the most powerful and modern nation in the world can seriously believe this stuff. Ah well, there's nowt so queer as folk.
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Jan 6, 2008
 
Do you want Mormon "Supreme Court Judges"? They are "Appointed For Life" by the President. Mutt Romney, if elected, would have 4 years of opportunities to appoint these judges, along with other Federal Judges? Below, tells how the ex-gov of Utah, secretly held meetings to inject Mormon Cult doctrine into the Utah State Government. Mike Leavitt is now the Dept chairman of the Federal Agency of Health & Human Services. One major item they have control over, is the possibility of a "bird flu" problem, and other contagious epidemics.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/
Governor and his top advisers had 'seminary' meetings to discuss the role of LDS teachings in government By Robert Gehrke
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 12/30/2007

Former Utah governor and current Cabinet secretary of Health and Human Resources, Mike Leavitt sought to infuse the lessons of his religion into his inaugural address and into state policy, conducting a series of "Early Morning Seminary" classes in which he and top advisers discussed how to incorporate "just and holy" Mormon principles into his governance, archival records show. The group reviewed stories from the Book of Mormon and how they applied to government, the newspaper reported.

The disclosure of those 1996 meetings, never before reported, comes at a time when the interface between God and government is dominating political dialogue and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has been forced to take great pains to assure distrustful voters that his Mormon faith will not drive his policy decisions.

A Utah Republican consultant, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic, said he was surprised the meeting transcripts ended up in the state archives. This is the kind of thing I would've guessed that Brigham Young would've had when we had a theocracy here rather than necessarily in modern times," he said.

Leavitt's group held sessions at the Governor's Mansion, and opened with a prayer before the group explored the Book of Mormon stories of Korihor, the Gadianton Robbers, Alma and Mosiah, and King Benjamin, seeking insight into what LDS scripture defines as the proper role of government and discussing how they could be communicated in a "bilingual" manner to a secular audience.

During the meetings, Leavitt said the discussions were not official state business and asked staffers to keep the conversations confidential. After the newspaper obtained the documents, Leavitt asked that they be pulled from state archives, saying the discussions were private because they contained personal or even "sacred" thoughts from members of his staff. The records were removed and are now the subject of a 30-day review.
Mitt Lost

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Jan 6, 2008
 
Wow. Another cut and paste session.
MCB

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Jan 6, 2008
 
Mormonism Uncensored:
http://www.mormonchurchbeliefs.com
Queenie

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Jan 6, 2008
 
MCB wrote:
Mormonism Uncensored:
http://www.mormonchurchbeliefs.com
Worse than what I originally read. How very sad.
No Problem

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Jan 6, 2008
 
Wow, we are getting original now!

Whew wee.

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Jan 7, 2008
 
This is a Cut and Paste from http://www.mormonchurchbeliefs.com/

"Obedience is an important concept in Mormonism. Obedience to the teachings and commands of church is one of the solemn oaths that a good Mormon takes during the sacred endowment ceremony in the temple, but the emphasis on obedience begins in kindergarten-age "Primary Association" classes and in Sunday School.

Mormon Prophet Wilford Woodruff stated, when he was president of the church: The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme.

One of the songs taught to young children is Follow the Prophet!, with nine verses, and the refrain, repeated after each verse, is: Follow the prophet, Follow the prophet, Follow the prophet, Don't go astray! Follow the prophet, Follow the prophet, Follow the prophet, He knows the way.The "prophet," of course, refers to whoever is the current preside..."

I use the Above to note one thing.

The above is serious. Follow the Prophet? Who in the World Might He Be?

We have already found out that they attempt to pass him off as a man when he makes mistakes. When is that? When is he speaking as a man subject to mistakes?

We have found many times that they made mistakes. Brigham Young and the Adam God theory! I bet those people back then didn't know not to believe what he said about certain things. When does one know now what not to believe and what to follow? They must follow the Prophet.

“I think, therefore, I am.”

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Jan 7, 2008
 
Nothing new, just more idiocy to say "hey here is something uncensored"!
I read thru it and found nothing that wasn't already available information and/or misleading twist and spin that hasn't been avaiable for years and years.
Idiots! They abound!
Chuck

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Jan 7, 2008
 
Queenie wrote:
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Worse than what I originally read. How very sad.
People, use your God given wisdom and power of discernment. The Democratic power machine has gone into over drive now and has started working at a fever pitch picking up on the Anti-Mormon rhetoric turning the volume up. Why? Because Mitt Romney is to them the only candidate they know who could be a real contender of significance for any Democrat candidate. So if they can marginalize the Mormons to the public they think they will win. All Anti-Mormons are unwitting puppets in a process to hand over the reigns to the very ones who want a secular society. Huchabee, is the very candidate they want to win and its like Susan Estrich said to Greta on Fox last week:

Huckabee could win tomorrow here in Iowa. Huckabee is a Democrat's dream. He's the kind of candidate who can do very well in the Iowa caucus because he taps into something. But when the republicans nominate Huckabee? Honey, I'm dancing at the inaugural ball. So if you are going to believe everything you read about Mormons, don't read. Or consider the source, even coming from the Anti-Mormons there is still a bias and bigotry laced throughout.

Evangelicals For Mitt
http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/
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Jan 7, 2008
 
I wonder how many people find the following cut and paste idiotic?

The clinical presentation of CDAD (Clostridium difficile-associated disease) usually involves diarrhea, but it can also include fever, nausea, abdominal cramping or other forms of pain. Symptoms typically occur within 48 h of infection with C. difficile and most patients who are infected in hospital become infected within 3 weeks of admission.7 Less frequently, the onset of symptoms can be delayed by up to 2–3 months.2, 7 The spectrum of disease severity ranges from uncomplicated diarrhea to colitis or pseudomembraneous colitis and, rarely, ileus or toxic megacolon. Complications of CDAD include the development of recurrent CDAD (in 20–30% of cases), the need for colectomy, septic shock or acute abdomen.8

McFarland LV et al.(1989) Nosocomial acquisition of Clostridium difficile infection. N Engl J Med 320: 204–210 | PubMed | ISI | ChemPort |
McMaster-Baxter NL and Musher DM (2007) Clostridium difficile: recent epidemiologic findings and advances in therapy. Pharmacotherapy 27: 1029–1039 | Article | PubMed | ChemPort |

McFarland LV et al.(2007) Implications of the changing face of Clostridium difficile disease for health care practitioners. Am J Infect Control 35: 237–253 | Article | PubMed |

http://www.nature.com/ncpgasthep/journal/v5/n...
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Jan 7, 2008
 
Is it Q & A time?

“I think, therefore, I am.”

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Jan 7, 2008
 
No Problem wrote:
I wonder how many people find the following cut and paste idiotic?
The clinical presentation of CDAD (Clostridium difficile-associated disease) usually involves diarrhea, but it can also include fever, nausea, abdominal cramping or other forms of pain. Symptoms typically occur within 48 h of infection with C. difficile and most patients who are infected in hospital become infected within 3 weeks of admission.7 Less frequently, the onset of symptoms can be delayed by up to 2–3 months.2, 7 The spectrum of disease severity ranges from uncomplicated diarrhea to colitis or pseudomembraneous colitis and, rarely, ileus or toxic megacolon. Complications of CDAD include the development of recurrent CDAD (in 20–30% of cases), the need for colectomy, septic shock or acute abdomen.8
McFarland LV et al.(1989) Nosocomial acquisition of Clostridium difficile infection. N Engl J Med 320: 204–210 | PubMed | ISI | ChemPort |
McMaster-Baxter NL and Musher DM (2007) Clostridium difficile: recent epidemiologic findings and advances in therapy. Pharmacotherapy 27: 1029–1039 | Article | PubMed | ChemPort |
McFarland LV et al.(2007) Implications of the changing face of Clostridium difficile disease for health care practitioners. Am J Infect Control 35: 237–253 | Article | PubMed |
http://www.nature.com/ncpgasthep/journal/v5/n...
You have a very funny retardation.
Do you wish you were an oncologist instead of a flyboy?

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Jan 7, 2008
 
GreenwoodGuy wrote:
Nothing new, just more idiocy to say "hey here is something uncensored"!
I read thru it and found nothing that wasn't already available information and/or misleading twist and spin that hasn't been avaiable for years and years.
Idiots! They abound!
Idiots are the ones that believe this Mormon Mess. This is the most unbelievable bunch of Junk that has ever hit the world.

To believe this is surely the highest sign of an idiot at work.

Now, Idiot has not been my choice of words, it is yours. Now that you have chose it, you define yourself and others.

Follow the Prophet. When? At all times. What if he in one of His wrong days? It will be corrected one day after He and you are dead.

What does that mean for those who followed him when he was wrong? Oh, it will be ok, the main thing is that you obeyed him.

Stars go on your chart if you blindly obey the Prophet, right or wrong he may be, right you are for following him. Follow him into the fire or to the Kool-Ade table.

There is one only to follow and He is not the Mormon Prophet.
Will Mitt Win

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Jan 7, 2008
 
GreenwoodGuy wrote:
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You have a very funny retardation.
Do you wish you were an oncologist instead of a flyboy?
Yes. However, Heavenly Father only made it possible that I am a true "tard" instead of a genius like you.

“I think, therefore, I am.”

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Jan 7, 2008
 
Will Mitt Win wrote:
<quoted text>Yes. However, Heavenly Father only made it possible that I am a true "tard" instead of a genius like you.
I wouldn't say genius, just "non-idiot".

“I think, therefore, I am.”

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Jan 7, 2008
 
JIROBBI wrote:
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Idiots are the ones that believe this Mormon Mess. This is the most unbelievable bunch of Junk that has ever hit the world.
To believe this is surely the highest sign of an idiot at work.
Now, Idiot has not been my choice of words, it is yours. Now that you have chose it, you define yourself and others.
Follow the Prophet. When? At all times. What if he in one of His wrong days? It will be corrected one day after He and you are dead.
What does that mean for those who followed him when he was wrong? Oh, it will be ok, the main thing is that you obeyed him.
Stars go on your chart if you blindly obey the Prophet, right or wrong he may be, right you are for following him. Follow him into the fire or to the Kool-Ade table.
There is one only to follow and He is not the Mormon Prophet.
In your case it is "blithering idiot". "Idiot" alone doesn't do you justice, it needs emphasis.
Chuck

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Jan 8, 2008
 
JIROBBI wrote:
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Idiots are the ones that believe this Mormon Mess. This is the most unbelievable bunch of Junk that has ever hit the world.
To believe this is surely the highest sign of an idiot at work.
Now, Idiot has not been my choice of words, it is yours. Now that you have chose it, you define yourself and others.
Follow the Prophet. When? At all times. What if he in one of His wrong days? It will be corrected one day after He and you are dead.
What does that mean for those who followed him when he was wrong? Oh, it will be ok, the main thing is that you obeyed him.
Stars go on your chart if you blindly obey the Prophet, right or wrong he may be, right you are for following him. Follow him into the fire or to the Kool-Ade table.
There is one only to follow and He is not the Mormon Prophet.
What a crock...and you think you are intelligent? What you just said about the LDS Church is another example of your lame understanding of what the Church believes.
Mitt Lost

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Jan 8, 2008
 
I have no problem with calling myself an Idiot for having been a Mormon growing up. I should have stood my ground as a teenager and said "heck NO" I won't do all of these idiotic church activities.

Now I no longer feel like an idiot for once being a Mormon, however, I do have some mental issues brought on by the church, ones that the Bishop in particular brought on by asking questions over several years about my sexual thoughts, masturbatory habits, sex habits (kissing, petting the Mia Maids, etc) and being told what a worthless individual I am in the eyes of Heavenly Father for disgracing his/my temple (body) and that I am not normal for having sexual urges like every other "normal" teenager. I wonder how many other lives the church has ruined using these methods?
Mitt Lost

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Jan 8, 2008
 
I wonder how many LDS families are following RS President Sister Beck's request to have all LDS wives stay home, take care of the family and spread her legs?

I'd love to see this happen. It would mean more struggles and financial difficulties for those LDS households. But Pops and Mom could feel better for 3 minutes by having sex and having another child to feed 9 months later.

Just pay your 10% tithing and Heavenly Father will see you through.
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