New York Primary Election Sept 14: Will you vote?

Youtube?

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John wrote:

Youtube?
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You didn't even look at it, the only joke in here is you. lol.

JOE & JOSE'

> You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal".
>
> Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California ...or
> Texas ....or... Arizona ....or.
>
> Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes
> $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
>
> Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and
> gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
>
> Ready? Now pay close attention....
>
> Joe Legal:$25.00 per hour x 40 hours =$1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per
> year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has
> $31,231.00.
>
> Jose Illegal:$15.00 per hour x 40 hours =$600.00 per week, or $31,200.0 0
> per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his
> family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has
> $24,031.00.
>
> Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and
> local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0 per year. Jose
> Illegal still has $31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal makes too much money to be eligible for food stamps or welfare.
> Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal
> now has $18,031.00.
>
> Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC
> and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe
> Legal now has $9,631 .00.
>
> Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy.
>
> Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of
> that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
>
> Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has
> $31,200.00.
>
> Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline,
> etc..
>
> Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline,
> and what he sends out of the country every month..
>
> Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work
> to make ends meet.
>
> Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
>
> Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same elementary
> school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches, while Jose Illegal's
> children get a free,government sponsored lunch.
>
> Jose Illegal's children have a free after school ESL program.
>
> Joe Legal's children go home to an empty house.
>
> Now, when they reach college age, Joe Legal's kids may not get into a State
> School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help,
> even though Joe has been paying for State Schools through his taxes, while
> Jose Illegal's kids "go to the head of the class" because they are a
> minority.
>
> Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but
> Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay anything.
>
> Do you get it, now?
>
> If you vote for or support any politician that supports
> illegal aliens... you are part of the problem!
>

>
> We need to keep this going--we need to make changes ASAP!
>
> It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
>

RombotFromColtsNeck wrote:

Still waiting for an explanation of Bachmann,liber boy.

Here's my answer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

If the King doesn't care about his own brother. how does he really feel about you?

from CNN

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

President Obama is a great leader....He has beer summits, plays golf and fills out basketball brackets.
Now this country may be going down the tubes...but it's important to fill out basketball brackets and have beer summits for his friends that commit crimes.

Gee I wonder...will the black panthers be at the voting booths this year with clubs like last time?

Will Acorn be voting on behalf of dead people this year?

Will Hillary lose any weight this year? Saw her on TV last night and her fata$$ took up to channels.

Joseph Obama Stalin wrote:

President Obama is a great leader....He has beer summits, plays golf and fills out basketball brackets.
Now this country may be going down the tubes...but it's important to fill out basketball brackets and have beer summits for his friends that commit crimes.
Gee I wonder...will the black panthers be at the voting booths this year with clubs like last time?
Will Acorn be voting on behalf of dead people this year?
Will Hillary lose any weight this year? Saw her on TV last night and her fata$$ took up to channels.

Is that you Bill?{William Jefferson Clinton}

Things are LOOKIN' PRETTY BAD 4 REPUBLICANS, when they havta FIX ELECTIONS by SUPPRESSING MINORITY VOTES (ie Penn) in order TO HAVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE OF WINNING !!!

Concerned Onlooker wrote:

Things are LOOKIN' PRETTY BAD 4 REPUBLICANS, when they havta FIX ELECTIONS by SUPPRESSING MINORITY VOTES (ie Penn) in order TO HAVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE OF WINNING !!!

Didn't you used to be Concerned Douchebag? Suppressing the vote? Did the Republicans hire the black panthers again? Have the democrats run out of cemetary rosters? Have the democrats depleted Bid-O-wees' customer lists? You have plenty of non-existent voters! It will be shocking but half the people that vote in November will probably be from Chicago.

De Oppresso Liber wrote:

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Didn't you used to be Concerned Douchebag? Suppressing the vote? Did the Republicans hire the black panthers again? Have the democrats run out of cemetary rosters? Have the democrats depleted Bid-O-wees' customer lists? You have plenty of non-existent voters! It will be shocking but half the people that vote in November will probably be from Chicago.

Actually the majority of suppressed voters are going to be the elderly. The voter ID laws will suppress people without valid IDs like older people without licenses, and people who use public transportation like minorites. However, the majority is going to be elderly. The worst is elderly minorities that have lived through times that they werent allowed to vote, and its going to feel like those times have returned.

Concerned Onlooker wrote:

Things are LOOKIN' PRETTY BAD 4 REPUBLICANS, when they havta FIX ELECTIONS by SUPPRESSING MINORITY VOTES (ie Penn) in order TO HAVE EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE OF WINNING !!!

YOU keep thinking that hoss!!

really wrote:

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Actually the majority of suppressed voters are going to be the elderly. The voter ID laws will suppress people without valid IDs like older people without licenses, and people who use public transportation like minorites. However, the majority is going to be elderly. The worst is elderly minorities that have lived through times that they werent allowed to vote, and its going to feel like those times have returned.

Think, is it possible today to never be asked to identify yourself? Can you function normally without identification of any kind? DMV will provide a non-licence ID. I don't like the idea myself, but isn't it reasonable today with 18 million illegal aliens in the country, and groups like ACORN that where proven to be involved in voter fraud. Shouldn't we want to have safeguards in the voting process? There are many non-partisan groups that help the elderly in many capacities including transportation to election polls.

De Oppresso Liber wrote:

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Think, is it possible today to never be asked to identify yourself? Can you function normally without identification of any kind? DMV will provide a non-licence ID. I don't like the idea myself, but isn't it reasonable today with 18 million illegal aliens in the country, and groups like ACORN that where proven to be involved in voter fraud. Shouldn't we want to have safeguards in the voting process? There are many non-partisan groups that help the elderly in many capacities including transportation to election polls.

The USA is dead. Just move on.

RombotFromColtsNeck wrote:

The need for regs. still applies teddy,no matter who is pres.

I'm AGREEING with you, ya silly wandered git.

RombotFromColtsNeck wrote:

As usual you missed the point.The current rep. nominee is calling for the same things as Bush wanted.Ergo another disaster.Ifit didn't work in good times,why will it work now?Are all you conservatives this stupid?Ever heard the saying "He who doesn't remember history,is bound to repeat it?"

And as usual, you're deflecting and dodging the issue.

So I put it to you again --

After all your whining and Bush Bush Bush waaah waaah waaaaaahhh blaming about the financial crisis and recession being caused by statutory and regulatory safeguards having been removed by Congresses and Presidents OF BOTH MAJOR PARTIES over the past couple decades (notice AGAIN I'm agreeing with you),

TELL US WHAT OBAMA HAS DONE IN 3-1/2 YEARS TO RE-ESTABLISH THESE NECESSARY RESTRICTIONS to prevent the next fiscal crisis and 'too big to fail' shake-down of the taxpayer by Wall Street fat cats?

As far as I can tell, the answer is ABSOLUTELY FCUK-ALL.

He and his Pelosi/Reid cabal of progressive idiots were too busy tying the whole Congress up for a year and a half raping America with ObamaTAX.

Teddy R wrote:

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I'm AGREEING with you, ya silly wandered git.
<quoted text>

And as usual, you're deflecting and dodging the issue.

So I put it to you again --

After all your whining and Bush Bush Bush waaah waaah waaaaaahhh blaming about the financial crisis and recession being caused by statutory and regulatory safeguards having been removed by Congresses and Presidents OF BOTH MAJOR PARTIES over the past couple decades (notice AGAIN I'm agreeing with you),

TELL US WHAT OBAMA HAS DONE IN 3-1/2 YEARS TO RE-ESTABLISH THESE NECESSARY RESTRICTIONS to prevent the next fiscal crisis and 'too big to fail' shake-down of the taxpayer by Wall Street fat cats?
As far as I can tell, the answer is ABSOLUTELY FCUK-ALL.

He and his Pelosi/Reid cabal of progressive idiots were too busy tying the whole Congress up for a year and a half raping America with ObamaTAX.

Typical R-U-D-E Re-THUG-lican post.

Teddy R wrote:

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I'm AGREEING with you, ya silly wandered git.
<quoted text>
And as usual, you're deflecting and dodging the issue.
So I put it to you again --
After all your whining and Bush Bush Bush waaah waaah waaaaaahhh blaming about the financial crisis and recession being caused by statutory and regulatory safeguards having been removed by Congresses and Presidents OF BOTH MAJOR PARTIES over the past couple decades (notice AGAIN I'm agreeing with you),
TELL US WHAT OBAMA HAS DONE IN 3-1/2 YEARS TO RE-ESTABLISH THESE NECESSARY RESTRICTIONS to prevent the next fiscal crisis and 'too big to fail' shake-down of the taxpayer by Wall Street fat cats?
As far as I can tell, the answer is ABSOLUTELY FCUK-ALL.
He and his Pelosi/Reid cabal of progressive idiots were too busy tying the whole Congress up for a year and a half raping America with ObamaTAX.

Corzine can fix it

Reparations Are Coming wrote:

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Typical R-U-D-E Re-THUG-lican post.

Typical content- and fact-free Obama Truth Squad response.

Got an answer?

Didn't think so.

Teddy R wrote:

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Typical content- and fact-free Obama Truth Squad response.

Got an answer?

Didn't think so.

Referring to posters as gits is the only response needed for typical R-U-D-E Re-THUG-licans like you.

De Oppresso Liber wrote:

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Think, is it possible today to never be asked to identify yourself? Can you function normally without identification of any kind? DMV will provide a non-licence ID. I don't like the idea myself, but isn't it reasonable today with 18 million illegal aliens in the country, and groups like ACORN that where proven to be involved in voter fraud. Shouldn't we want to have safeguards in the voting process? There are many non-partisan groups that help the elderly in many capacities including transportation to election polls.

We actually shouldn't have safeguards. Safeguards can have flaws which prevent people from voting. If one person is blocked, we failed. As for ID, i agree we need IDs...but theyre too hard to get for some people. Elderly people need their birth certificates, which aren't accepted because of their age and style (if they even have them). Without one, you need to get a new birth certificate, which if there isn't a modern one on file, that presents major problems. Then you have to (when done with that long and arduous task) buy an ID. That means that you have to pay an fee to get a thing to vote. Thats a poll tax which is against the constitution.

So elderly have to have a huge fight to get an ID, then have to pay a fee in order to vote if they have had their ID's revoked. Thats of course if they even know they have to do that before the election. Odds are they wont, then when they go to vote they just can't vote...in a system where you can deny someone their main right as a citizen, because your system is majorly flawed...then you shouldn't have the requirement.

If the system wasn't flawed I would agree...but i'd rather have a risk of voter fraud and everyone can vote (in a system with little to no proof of voter fraud ever occuring) than a system where people can't vote due to technicalities...

really wrote:

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We actually shouldn't have safeguards. Safeguards can have flaws which prevent people from voting. If one person is blocked, we failed. As for ID, i agree we need IDs...but theyre too hard to get for some people. Elderly people need their birth certificates, which aren't accepted because of their age and style (if they even have them). Without one, you need to get a new birth certificate, which if there isn't a modern one on file, that presents major problems. Then you have to (when done with that long and arduous task) buy an ID. That means that you have to pay an fee to get a thing to vote. Thats a poll tax which is against the constitution.
So elderly have to have a huge fight to get an ID, then have to pay a fee in order to vote if they have had their ID's revoked. Thats of course if they even know they have to do that before the election. Odds are they wont, then when they go to vote they just can't vote...in a system where you can deny someone their main right as a citizen, because your system is majorly flawed...then you shouldn't have the requirement.
If the system wasn't flawed I would agree...but i'd rather have a risk of voter fraud and everyone can vote (in a system with little to no proof of voter fraud ever occuring) than a system where people can't vote due to technicalities...

We pay fees for drivers licences, passports, pistol permits, boating licence, hunting , fishing, even Ocean fishing licence in NYS, I can't take a book out of a library without a library card, but its a burden to identify yourself on voting, please, you can't be serious?