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Call the police - Hawaii Editorials

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Three hotel workers' failure to notify police while watching a man pummeling a woman on a Waikiki beach was appalling, but bad Samaritanism is neither illegal nor subject to civil lawsuits in Hawaii and most other states.

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Kimo Da Cable Guy

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"Reprehensible as they might be, incidents of failure to notify police during violent crimes are rare; a national average of 1.6 nonrescues a year."

Where did the Star Bulletin come up with this statistic? Did they just make it up? Think about it: according to this claim there are, in our entire country of over 250 million people, fewer than 2 cases a year in which bystanders see a violent crime being committed and don't immediately call police. That's ridiculous. How can anyone even know how many times this happens? If the witness keeps his or her mouth shut and never steps forward then nobody will ever know about it. If the three idiot hotel workers in Waikiki didn't speak up later then we never would have known there were witnesses. So clearly there is no way to know how often crimes in progress go unreported.

The Star Bulletin then uses this obviously bogus statistic to argue there shouldn't be a law requiring anyone witnessing a violent crime to immediately call police. Way to go Star Bulletin. Always thinking of ways to protect the criminals and endanger the victims. Your devotion to moral relativism leads you to excuse all kinds of unethical and immoral behavior. You can't exactly say it is ok to do nothing while watching someone kill a young woman, but according to you it shouldn't be illegal because it doesn't happen that often. OK, sure. Presidential assassinations don't happen that often either. Maybe we should get rid of laws that make that illegal. Wonderful logic there Star Bulletin. Congratulations on yet another amazingly dopey editorial.
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the editorials are written by 8th graders as after school punishment...

they are told to write something about current events and given 1 hour to do it in...

guess what schools are participating in this program...???
Von

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Yes I do agree with you and your article also explains why the newlyweds are bypassing Hawaii as per today's SB article, "More couples are bypassing Hawaii for their honeymoon, a survey shows"
By Allison Schaefers

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Kimo Da Cable Guy wrote:
"Reprehensible as they might be, incidents of failure to notify police during violent crimes are rare; a national average of 1.6 nonrescues a year."
Where did the Star Bulletin come up with this statistic? Did they just make it up? Think about it: according to this claim there are, in our entire country of over 250 million people, fewer than 2 cases a year in which bystanders see a violent crime being committed and don't immediately call police. That's ridiculous. How can anyone even know how many times this happens? If the witness keeps his or her mouth shut and never steps forward then nobody will ever know about it. If the three idiot hotel workers in Waikiki didn't speak up later then we never would have known there were witnesses. So clearly there is no way to know how often crimes in progress go unreported.
The Star Bulletin then uses this obviously bogus statistic to argue there shouldn't be a law requiring anyone witnessing a violent crime to immediately call police. Way to go Star Bulletin. Always thinking of ways to protect the criminals and endanger the victims. Your devotion to moral relativism leads you to excuse all kinds of unethical and immoral behavior. You can't exactly say it is ok to do nothing while watching someone kill a young woman, but according to you it shouldn't be illegal because it doesn't happen that often. OK, sure. Presidential assassinations don't happen that often either. Maybe we should get rid of laws that make that illegal. Wonderful logic there Star Bulletin. Congratulations on yet another amazingly dopey editorial.
I hope you're not one of those who expects others to call about a crime so you can stay clear.
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I think it is time for the star-bulletin to save some money by not running editorials. They are the generally the most uninformed, worst written jumble of statements anyone could have the displeasure of reading.
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brides want more interesting venues. Hawaii got stale fast
Kuokoa

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The difference between the 911 reports in the Kanohe case and the Waikiki case is the ethnicity of the witnesses. Those in Waikiki probably don't speak English too good, if you know wht I mean.
Jerry

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Oct 22, 2009
 
If you have a law that requires people to report a crime, and they do not report the crime they see, then by definition they too have broken the law. So, then the question seems to me to be, should we punish people, who did not report the crime. Of course that simple question becomes a little more complicated, when someone is aware that a crime is about to be committed and does not report that to the police.
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I can't think of anything that would discourage possible tourists more, than that their safety is not a concern. I am at a loss to even comprehend how people could ignore the stuggle. The hotel has security to call, doesn't it? It seems a waste of money to fund a HTB to advertise Hawai'i as a desirable destination, when basic concerns are ignored.
Kimo

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Those (3) witnesses were idiots!!! Well, they will have to live with the fact that their failure to call police might have cost a woman her life. Bad Karma on them, what goes around, comes around.
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Oct 22, 2009
 
If there were a law against not reporting a crime, I'd be on the phone all day reporting the theives in Congress ripping us off.
Of course I'd never get thru to the police cause the underpaid and overworked dispatchers would be fielding all kinds of dubious calls according to the law of unintended consequences.
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Pat wrote:
I can't think of anything that would discourage possible tourists more, than that their safety is not a concern. I am at a loss to even comprehend how people could ignore the stuggle. The hotel has security to call, doesn't it? It seems a waste of money to fund a HTB to advertise Hawai'i as a desirable destination, when basic concerns are ignored.
very true..Royal Hawaiian contributed to her murder.
Crime Stoppah

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I call HPD every time I read a Cynthia Oi editorial.
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Oct 22, 2009
 
It's still tough in Hawaii to enforce something like that. I wish it wasn't. This state loves tourism so much it has embraced every war criminal and drug dealer south of Berlin.
walking on the moon

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Oct 22, 2009
 
But seriously, just exactly what good is Stewart, Andy and Sting going to do?
Crazy Corean

Aiea, HI

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Oct 22, 2009
 
I would definitely report it. Maybe even use my pepper spray to spray the couple as i alway carry it with me. But then i'd probably get slap with a civil lawsuit from one or both of them. Ahhh America, gotta love it.
see no evil

Hana, HI

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Oct 22, 2009
 
One might conclude the witnesses would feel remorse for their lack of action.
But I don't think so.
Their non-action has already proven that.
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