Brookhaven officials: Nassau cop is a slumlord

LIer wrote:

What's a NCPD dick with 10 years in, pulling down these days? Buck and a half? Probably more. It's never enough, is it?

Hey, thats how it is all over Long Island. Levittown sure has changed. I went to an eye doctor there, and he complained he was only making $100 dollars on me. To me thats alot of money. He acted like he was the customer and I was the service person. I will not be going back.

ILE wrote:

Well...Mastic Beach is known best for slumlords, section 8's and white trash. When these problems are addressed, things should improve

So many people resent Section 8. I guess some people they would like to see die in the gutter for some reason. But they cut off their nose to spite their own face. If they don't use it here, it will go to other states.

The thing that really hurts is, they would rather give it to foreigners than their own people who are poor.

Section 8 is a program for working poor and the elderly. There is nothing wrong with people in need being helped. What I am opposed to is slumlords taking advantage of these people. Many slumlords convert single family houses into ILLEGAL 2 or 3-family structures, without C/O's and do not pay the proper R/E taxes (and also may fail to report the rental income). The residents of the house are likely handicapped or elderly and are not physically able to maintain the exterior.

Th slumlord could care less if the house becomes a blight on the neighborhood. The dumping of welfare cases, parolees and sexual predators is also the fault of these greedy absentee slumlords.

I am hoping the village will go after all the ILLEGAL rentals and owners of the dilapidated houses so that Mastic Beach can become the seaside oasis it should be.

Who's not a slumlord?

I know several landlords who take pride in their properties. Not ever landlord is a slumlord, and not every renter is a deadbeat.

This is a community under attack from within, and we, the people of Mastic beach, are going to correct the problems, one at a time.

MB Village Supporter wrote:

Section 8 is a program for working poor and the elderly. There is nothing wrong with people in need being helped. What I am opposed to is slumlords taking advantage of these people. Many slumlords convert single family houses into ILLEGAL 2 or 3-family structures, without C/O's and do not pay the proper R/E taxes (and also may fail to report the rental income). The residents of the house are likely handicapped or elderly and are not physically able to maintain the exterior.
Th slumlord could care less if the house becomes a blight on the neighborhood. The dumping of welfare cases, parolees and sexual predators is also the fault of these greedy absentee slumlords.
I am hoping the village will go after all the ILLEGAL rentals and owners of the dilapidated houses so that Mastic Beach can become the seaside oasis it should be.

With the recent court decision that makes it illegal for the state of New York to dump/house the ex mentally ill in large nursing homes,stating instead they should be housed in communities,What communities do you think will take the brut end of the new influx for this demographic group.I'm sure Mastic will continue to be one of the NY State's [unwritten policy] dumping grounds.Allowing exploitive slumlords to continue as it is in the states best interest.

MB Village Supporter wrote:

Section 8 is a program for working poor and the elderly. There is nothing wrong with people in need being helped. What I am opposed to is slumlords taking advantage of these people. Many slumlords convert single family houses into ILLEGAL 2 or 3-family structures, without C/O's and do not pay the proper R/E taxes (and also may fail to report the rental income). The residents of the house are likely handicapped or elderly and are not physically able to maintain the exterior.
Th slumlord could care less if the house becomes a blight on the neighborhood. The dumping of welfare cases, parolees and sexual predators is also the fault of these greedy absentee slumlords.
I am hoping the village will go after all the ILLEGAL rentals and owners of the dilapidated houses so that Mastic Beach can become the seaside oasis it should be.

I was informed that Section 8 inspects the homes that are subsidized by the federal government. Any infractions regarding the status of the home that was being subsidized under Section 8 would, and does, have funding pulled, or at the very least inform the owners of the infractions, penalties, and potential actions that will be taken civily against them.

Do you have specific information regarding multi family houses that are not only illegal, but also subsidized by Section 8? I find thtis part of your comment difficult to believe. Section 8 homes are inspected yearly. And, federal, or HUD zoning officials, react much more quickly than town code enforcement officials. Can you substantiate your comment?

MB Village Supporter wrote:

I know several landlords who take pride in their properties. Not ever landlord is a slumlord, and not every renter is a deadbeat.
This is a community under attack from within, and we, the people of Mastic beach, are going to correct the problems, one at a time.

First off, if an owner of a rental property does not reside in the area of his investment home, then your statement that "Not every landlord is a slumlord, and not every renter is a deadbeat" means nothing. There are some, but not many, owners of investment homes that live within the area. The numbers are dis-proportionately in favor of owners that do not live in this community, and many do not live within the state!

Lastly, a plethora of rental properties in any given community directly affects property values. This is a fact that has been proven consistently. Look at the Town of Smithtown - they have done away with accessory apartments in owner occupied homes, for the sole purpose of maintaining property values. If you want proof, look at the cost of a home in the Town of Smithtown - has it gone down, yes. But have the prices dropped as steeply as in Mastic Beach? Absolutely not! You can purchase a home in Mastic Beach for under $200,000.00. That is a fact my friend - look at your local papers for local pricing.

Slunlords are a big problem, but not the WHOLE problem. Low prices entice business investors to purchase these homes. Make it cost prohibitive for owners of more than TWO investment properties and you may not only solve your slumlord issue, but over time increase your property values.

Do people need a place to live? Yes.

Do they all need to live here? You know that answer.

Tony, you want a village for Shirley, I want a village for Mastic Beach. The perception that any village is against rentals, and collectively against RENTERS is what I was trying to demonstrate.

A Landlord should care about his property, because there will be a financial disincentive, endorsed by a Village court.

I do not want MORE rentals, I want the ones we have to clean up or sell to first time home owners looking for a nice place to live.

Vacant homes owned by banks are a huge problem. You will see when Shirley or Smith Point or what ever village committee succeeds, gets further into the census.

Good luck to all

MB,

I agree, and would like to eventually see the majority of rentals in this area eliminated. Rental homes inevitably bring home values down, and this has been proven time and time again by successful villages that do not even accomodate accessory apartments in owner occupied dwellings.

Vacant homes are not as much an issue as the investment companies that can purchase blocks, or parcels, of property and can afford to sit on these homes until the recession begins to clear. I will still revert to the obvious, but unpopular (in this area) conclusion that owners of more than two investment homes should be hit with an absentee landlord surcharge. There are many areas in Suffolk County that do not have excessive rentals, and the key to this is AFFORDABILITY!

I'm very sorry to differ with you, but although a village can be a boost to an area, cleaning out the dregs of society would be the first step, and a village, even a poor village, will have to go to bid on garbage pick up, something not one exploratory committee has discussed openly.

This is a fact - you will not get garbage picked up as a village as you do right now, because as a village, you leave the pool of areas covered by Suffolk County - this means you will HAVE to go to bid - and you will pay more for garbage pick up. I've discussed this with village attorneys also, and have had this confirmed.

Do you, or any other area, have enough in your savings, or slush fund, to cover these costs without raising taxes? Have you discussed this particular part of the village equation openly and recieved feedback? To the best of my understanding, no one who may vote on this knows that this may become a tax raising situation.

Wow, Tony, it appears to me that you against incorporation!

The village committee of Mastic Beach has been told our village will be able to keep all Town provided services, at the current costs, without any tax increase for those services. We were also told that WHEN we become a village, we can negotiate for a BETTER contract if this is financially viable.

I know you have the idea that any absentee landlord is SLUMLORD. On that idea we disagree.

We do agree that having fewer rentals will also mean a likely decrease in sexual predators, parolees, and any of the other "dregs of society".

Village law also can require all predators to obtain a Village Predator registration, which will ensure they are not living in a "no-predator zone". It will also verify the existence of a Village rental permit (the absentee landlord permit # will be required on the predator registration). And, the landlord will also have brought the house into compliance by getting it inspected and submitting proof of all C/O's that the house is habitable.

I would also suggest to our elected mayor that a list of all the village absentee rentals be submitted quarterly to the NY State STAR program to ensure the STAR reduction is not afforded to these landlords.

Mastic Beach is on the brink of completion of our Petition (we are actually over 100% already, but we are securing back-up signatures, just in case any are challenged by Town inspectors for petty or technical reasons.

MB Village Supporter wrote:

Wow, Tony, it appears to me that you against incorporation!
The village committee of Mastic Beach has been told our village will be able to keep all Town provided services, at the current costs, without any tax increase for those services. We were also told that WHEN we become a village, we can negotiate for a BETTER contract if this is financially viable.
I know you have the idea that any absentee landlord is SLUMLORD. On that idea we disagree.
We do agree that having fewer rentals will also mean a likely decrease in sexual predators, parolees, and any of the other "dregs of society".
Village law also can require all predators to obtain a Village Predator registration, which will ensure they are not living in a "no-predator zone". It will also verify the existence of a Village rental permit (the absentee landlord permit # will be required on the predator registration). And, the landlord will also have brought the house into compliance by getting it inspected and submitting proof of all C/O's that the house is habitable.
I would also suggest to our elected mayor that a list of all the village absentee rentals be submitted quarterly to the NY State STAR program to ensure the STAR reduction is not afforded to these landlords.
Mastic Beach is on the brink of completion of our Petition (we are actually over 100% already, but we are securing back-up signatures, just in case any are challenged by Town inspectors for petty or technical reasons.

Against incorporation, no. Will it work in it's current form, no.
Why?
You still have the same amount of renters. This is not something you will be able to curtail in a short period of time, and you know this. What will happen is you'll end up becomming another version of Patchouge, that's exactly what will happen. You WILL HAVE TO GO TO BID ON SANITATION - I'VE ALREADY CHECKED THIS OUT MULTIPLE TIMES.
YOU CAN KEEP THE SAME PEOPLE, BUT YOU WILL PAY MORE. EITHER DO HONEST RESEARCH, OR STOP LYING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

All other services will remain the same.

Incorporation is a great concept, when done the right way. But to tell your constituents their property values will suddenly rise is again a fallacy. This happens over a long period of time, and if you don't push these rentals out, don't even talk about property values, because you know the truth as well as I do.

Mastic residents should wake up and realize the state of NY has dumped and concentrated their section 8 and undesirables in mastic beach. It will get worse with the recent legal win against NY State to prevent them from pushing and dumping ex-psychiatric pts. into large nursing homes as they should be introduced into the communities.Apparently the unwritten policy is to concentrate them into the Mastic beach catchment area.The slumlord had good vision.They are there to stay.Look at what Long Beach was in the 70's a slum,how did that area transform itself?

Tony- You are a resident of Shirley. I know you have your own issues with the incorporation committee(s) in your area. The slumlord (Nassau Cop) owned a house in Mastic Beach that he rented to multiple families. The town took 2 years to catch him.

A new village will be a tremendous undertaking. We will need many decent, hardworking people that are dedicated to the betterment of Mastic Beach. Fortunately, the organization has over 150 caring members who LIVE in Mastic Beach. We all know the rental problems won't be solved overnight. But one by one they will be removed. Our village will also have more clout when dealing with Federal, State, County and local governments. We will not let any more dumping happen on our watch.

I hope you really do support incorporation. Because the tone of your posts speak otherwise.

MB Village Supporter wrote:

Tony- You are a resident of Shirley. I know you have your own issues with the incorporation committee(s) in your area. The slumlord (Nassau Cop) owned a house in Mastic Beach that he rented to multiple families. The town took 2 years to catch him.
A new village will be a tremendous undertaking. We will need many decent, hardworking people that are dedicated to the betterment of Mastic Beach. Fortunately, the organization has over 150 caring members who LIVE in Mastic Beach. We all know the rental problems won't be solved overnight. But one by one they will be removed. Our village will also have more clout when dealing with Federal, State, County and local governments. We will not let any more dumping happen on our watch.
I hope you really do support incorporation. Because the tone of your posts speak otherwise.

Reading these post's I agree as I was at a meeting where Tony was there on the committee all for the incorporation. Why does it sound like he speaks out against it now?

Is he Italian?

The heritage of Tony is not an issue. My posts are not an attack. We are fighting to save our community from predatory slumlords. I just want to make sure correct information is being posted and to keep everybody up to date.

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