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#143
Feb 10, 2012
 
typical wrote:
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Another black liberal I see, expecting somebody else to pick up the tab!
No I'm just real if I choose to pay I will but we are in the land of the free not in a dictatorship so basically you can't MAKE me pay I will do what I damn well please and I never ask for approval or denial so don't try to run my life cuz its better than yours live or own bi**hes
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It's hard for this person to figure out. We're trying to talk sense to a person who argues that she isn't required to tip and is treated bad in a restaurant. But surely she is treated good by blacks and tips them accordingly (according to skin color). She also probably voted for Obama simply because he's (half) black (African), but says she voted for him because he was the best candidate, and will again because he's doing a great job, LOL.
We're the fools arguing with her, she's an idiot and I'M the racist.
You're the idiot, because if you could listen above the roaring sound of your own narrow mind, I NEVER SAID that I shouldn't have to tip. My comments were directed at the lazy super entitled whiners who believe they should be tipped, no matter how lousy they do their job. The same (white) people crying out for (black) people to take RESPONSIBILITY for their own lives will give a member OF THEIR OWN RACE a PASS for that same behavior. Ingrown toenail, grandmother raised the white welfare mother, any OLD EXCUSE WILL DO. The Responsibility Police are merely trying to hide their racism behind a dirty mask of PIETY. They still expect favor & privileges for whites for the EXACT same behavior they observe in the black community.

And who I did or did not vote for is NONE of your business. I took RESPONSIBILITY as a citizen and did my duty. I VOTED.

That's all you need to know.
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So what constitutes good service? If I greet you, take your order, keep your drinks filled and remove dirty plates- is that considered good service? I've done those things with a smile to many tables and been stiffed. Am I to cut your meat and then feed it to you? What do people expect anyways?
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So what constitutes good service? If I greet you, take your order, keep your drinks filled and remove dirty plates- is that considered good service? I've done those things with a smile to many tables and been stiffed. Am I to cut your meat and then feed it to you? What do people expect anyways?
What do people expect anyways? That sounds like a sincere question, so I will answer it.

People patronizing restaurants tag a server as GOOD when they have the ability to anticipate the diner's need and attention is given to the diner's comfort and satisfaction with their dining experience there. If you do in fact keep the drinks filled remove dirty plates, and don't ignore other reasonable requests, clean silverware, extra napkins, the server is entitled to a tip and a better than average one, at that. If waitstaff can't do their jobs with excellence, why do they expect excellent tips. There's no free lunch, as evidenced in the custom of waitstaff presenting the diner with the bill at the end of the meal. The diner has no expectation that the meal would be free.

When I hear comments like "what do they expect, to have their meat cut and fed to them" that sounds like a bad attitude, bitter and surly. Maybe that person should find another line of work, because it doesn't sound like they are cut out to work in the food service and hospitality industry.
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#147
Feb 10, 2012
 
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When I hear comments like "what do they expect, to have their meat cut and fed to them" that sounds like a bad attitude, bitter and surly. Maybe that person should find another line of work, because it doesn't sound like they are cut out to work in the food service and hospitality industry.
Anticipate your needs? Weren't you given a chair, table, plate, utensils, a drink and a menu?

Bottom line, tips are not mandatory, but if your meal was pleasent enough to finish without complaining to the manager and you still stiffed your waitress, then you're just sorry.
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Natchitoches, LA

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#148
Feb 10, 2012
 
I've never even heard of people not-tipping as a regular part of their lifestyle. What sorry sons of bitchhes they are.

Dont you guys know it's normal, and they make 2.50 an HOUR?? It's normal in this society for a server toearn more if they are good servers, thats what tips are for.
IF you go repeatedly to a restaurant and stiff them don't be surprised if they give you bad service, you suck. And they might spit in you rfood too HAHAHA you've been warned you sorry selfish trash.
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#149
Feb 10, 2012
 
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I've never even heard of people not-tipping as a regular part of their lifestyle. What sorry sons of bitchhes they are.
Dont you guys know it's normal, and they make 2.50 an HOUR?? It's normal in this society for a server toearn more if they are good servers, thats what tips are for.
IF you go repeatedly to a restaurant and stiff them don't be surprised if they give you bad service, you suck. And they might spit in you rfood too HAHAHA you've been warned you sorry selfish trash.
No just a bad motherf**ker and don't hate love that I'm honest...ain't too many of them out here so deal with it or don't deal at all.
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#150
Feb 10, 2012
 
CafeAuLife wrote:
<quoted text>What do people expect anyways? That sounds like a sincere question, so I will answer it.

People patronizing restaurants tag a server as GOOD when they have the ability to anticipate the diner's need and attention is given to the diner's comfort and satisfaction with their dining experience there. If you do in fact keep the drinks filled remove dirty plates, and don't ignore other reasonable requests, clean silverware, extra napkins, the server is entitled to a tip and a better than average one, at that. If waitstaff can't do their jobs with excellence, why do they expect excellent tips. There's no free lunch, as evidenced in the custom of waitstaff presenting the diner with the bill at the end of the meal. The diner has no expectation that the meal would be free.

When I hear comments like "what do they expect, to have their meat cut and fed to them" that sounds like a bad attitude, bitter and surly. Maybe that person should find another line of work, because it doesn't sound like they are cut out to work in the food service and hospitality industry.
Trust me there are a LOT of folks receiving free lunches....
lloll

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#151
Feb 11, 2012
 
dallasbeauty72 wrote:
<quoted text> well i cant agree wit u on dat for my mom nd dad raised me very well im a detective for a local police department nd i hve a bacholar n physcologist... nd i hve raise my kids da same i hve two kids 1 is a register nurse nd da otha is studing criminal justice at grambling nd i neva had a problem wit neither of my kids fallen nto statistics... so yes sum blacks not all nd im proud to say dat...for its not da parents fault for wat our kids do as dey get older r grown not to say we didnt raise dem rite...but since u made da comment on high crime rate nd bad parenting wat abt da whites committing suicide... nd raping dere own ..now lets not b judgemental here for nomatter da color of skin we all hve wrng nd we all hve problems...
Yeah, that post has college educated written all over it.
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#152
Feb 11, 2012
 
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Anticipate your needs? Weren't you given a chair, table, plate, utensils, a drink and a menu?
Bottom line, tips are not mandatory, but if your meal was pleasent enough to finish without complaining to the manager and you still stiffed your waitress, then you're just sorry.
Let's be clear. I NEVER stiff waitstaff. I believe it is undemocratic.

Now as to your quip about being provided a table chairs, utensils and whatnot.Except for the menu, don't residents in the City Jail get as much? And their meal is FREE (to them). In addition to the basic needs of a diner, a competent server (esp the ones anticipating hefty tips) attend to the diner's needs for say, steak sauce with their steak, or tartar sauce and lemon with their fish. Hot sauce for their eggs, maybe. A refill for their beverage.Get the picture?

When a diner needs these items,and has to chase the server across the restaurant to request them, that's annoying and frustrating.If I can't what I need when I go out to a restaurant to enjoy a meal, WHY am I patronizing that particular restaurant?
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#153
Feb 11, 2012
 
CafeAuLife wrote:
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Let's be clear. I NEVER stiff waitstaff. I believe it is undemocratic.
Now as to your quip about being provided a table chairs, utensils and whatnot.Except for the menu, don't residents in the City Jail get as much? And their meal is FREE (to them). In addition to the basic needs of a diner, a competent server (esp the ones anticipating hefty tips) attend to the diner's needs for say, steak sauce with their steak, or tartar sauce and lemon with their fish. Hot sauce for their eggs, maybe. A refill for their beverage.Get the picture?
When a diner needs these items,and has to chase the server across the restaurant to request them, that's annoying and frustrating.If I can't what I need when I go out to a restaurant to enjoy a meal, WHY am I patronizing that particular restaurant?
Democracy doesn't have anything to do with this Einstein, and yes, prisons are expected to anticipate the "needs" of their inmates as well.

Where you and I differ is I don't want some stranger playing 20 questions with me over condiments...have you considered telling your server you have issues and demand extra attention?
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Feb 11, 2012
 
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Democracy doesn't have anything to do with this Einstein, and yes, prisons are expected to anticipate the "needs" of their inmates as well.
Where you and I differ is I don't want some stranger playing 20 questions with me over condiments...have you considered telling your server you have issues and demand extra attention?
Ha, Ha. Einstein.

Have you been reading these posts? Some of them must be from people who are actually servers. The hostility. The indignation that a paying customer would demand the extra attention needed to place a slice of lemon in their drink. A smart diner would not DEMAND anything, attention or anything else from thse people.

The concept of anticipating the diners' needs does not really pertain to actually questioning them as to what they need. This has more to do with the server making themselves available so the diner can ask for what they need. In this instance, the server is: Anticipating The (possible) Need that the diner may need additional items or have additional requests that would make their meal more enjoyable. Something as simple as bringing one or two extra napkins to the diner's table can result in better tips.
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#155
Feb 11, 2012
 
CafeAuLife wrote:
<quoted text>Ha, Ha. Einstein.

Have you been reading these posts? Some of them must be from people who are actually servers. The hostility. The indignation that a paying customer would demand the extra attention needed to place a slice of lemon in their drink. A smart diner would not DEMAND anything, attention or anything else from thse people.

The concept of anticipating the diners' needs does not really pertain to actually questioning them as to what they need. This has more to do with the server making themselves available so the diner can ask for what they need. In this instance, the server is: Anticipating The (possible) Need that the diner may need additional items or have additional requests that would make their meal more enjoyable. Something as simple as bringing one or two extra napkins to the diner's table can result in better tips.
Any hostility from a server is when they do a very good job just like you have described and get the same result from some people. I know what good service is, I have served tables and been served-and tip according to the service I receive. However, some of us will not tip or significantly undertip regardless if the service is phenomenal. They simply do not grasp the concept of tipping. I have been to dinner with non tippers and it is frustrating when the server clearly did a good job.
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Feb 11, 2012
 
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Any hostility from a server is when they do a very good job just like you have described and get the same result from some people. I know what good service is, I have served tables and been served-and tip according to the service I receive. However, some of us will not tip or significantly undertip regardless if the service is phenomenal. They simply do not grasp the concept of tipping. I have been to dinner with non tippers and it is frustrating when the server clearly did a good job.
Jessica, I am in complete agreement with you that when it comes to tipping some folks are stingy or even clueless. Not all of us are, though. I take more of my meals at home because of the shabby service I receive in some of what used to be my favorite places. People I dine with accuse me of showing off I tip that well when I encounter a good server.

In the face of it though, it is important for servers to keep a good attitude, lest they alienate diners who have no intention of shorting them on their tip. In the restaurant business, a bad attitude is highly contagious, and highly unprofitable.
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Feb 11, 2012
 
for real wrote:
<quoted text>No I'm just real if I choose to pay I will but we are in the land of the free not in a dictatorship so basically you can't MAKE me pay I will do what I damn well please and I never ask for approval or denial so don't try to run my life cuz its better than yours live or own bi**hes
No, no one can MAKE you be mature or responsible, but try it one day, you may find it exhilarating! Break the cycle of loserdom and be a REAL man!

In the meantime, have ALL the fun you can being nothing more than a pimple on the ass of society :)
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Feb 13, 2012
 
LuLu wrote:
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No, no one can MAKE you be mature or responsible, but try it one day, you may find it exhilarating! Break the cycle of loserdom and be a REAL man!
In the meantime, have ALL the fun you can being nothing more than a pimple on the ass of society :)
I am mature your not! You cant even handle what I'm telling you that's why you say be a real man but I can be a pimple but you are the mouth sucking on societies Di*k and when you finish on your knees kiss society a**:):):)
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#159
Feb 13, 2012
 
HEY wrote:
Maybe because tipping is not a requirement. I think it's stupid anyway.
servers get paid $2.13 an hour. We work hard for money.
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#160
Feb 13, 2012
 
not a tipper wrote:
I don't tip regardless of the service i receive and thats because its optional and i just choose to pay for whatever it is I am consuming. I feel like if u need the tips u should seek employment where the pay is straight and not based on what people give you because its left up to them if they want to give, hence the word give...
you are very ignorant
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#161
Feb 13, 2012
 
LaLa wrote:
<quoted text>I don't wait tables, but I have when I was younger.

I'm glad you've found a profession you're happy with. I'll assume that basic grammatical skills were not a requirement, lucky for you!
amen!
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#162
Feb 13, 2012
 
Point Proven wrote:
You damn people that are giving reasons why you dont tip are Pathetic. And you are the main people that would be mad if someone came to your job and disrespected you. Think about what you are saying, You think waiters and waitresses are supposed to work for free???? If you dont want to spend the money then keep your lazy asses at home and cook yourself.
I totally agree! We make $2.13 an hour and you can't even leave a tip. When a table doesn't tip us, we lose money because we have to tip out a bus boy and the bartender. If you can't tip your server, then get fast food or cook for yourself.

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