NCHS Head Football Coach

Given the opportunity, would you sign a petition to terminate employment of the Head Football Coach at NCHS? If not, why not?

Eagle wrote:

Given the opportunity, would you sign a petition to terminate employment of the Head Football Coach at NCHS? If not, why not?

Forget about football, we got beat by St Mary's, a class A team, last night. Let's get rid of the baseball coaches.

Maybe NCHS supporters should be concerned about criminal and sexual assaults on campus instead of athletics.

The answer is yes. I would sign that petition. The reason being, he can't do the job. hes has had this next seasons boys for four years. They are no more ready to win than they were last season. You could get a mut from the dog pound and have him retrieving ducks in four years. Surely a "REAL" football coach can win more than 5 games in 3 seasons. Why stop at just the head coach? Why not try for some administration positions also?

Chieftain wrote:

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Forget about football, we got beat by St Mary's, a class A team, last night. Let's get rid of the baseball coaches.

St. Mary's has a great baseball team. For those of you who were not at the game, it was a very well played game by both teams. The baseball coach at NCHS is the best thing that has happened there in a long time. He is rebuilding the team from the ground up. He has complete respect from all of his players. He should be the athletic director.

Rezq wrote:

The answer is yes. I would sign that petition. The reason being, he can't do the job. hes has had this next seasons boys for four years. They are no more ready to win than they were last season. You could get a mut from the dog pound and have him retrieving ducks in four years. Surely a "REAL" football coach can win more than 5 games in 3 seasons. Why stop at just the head coach? Why not try for some administration positions also?

Who is going to come in here and beat Ruston, West Monroe and Ouachita? There is no easy answer like just change the head coach and we win district. I've said it before, the problems are deeper than just who is head football coach.

Not only will I sign the petition, I will be glad to make sure that petitions are passed out to as many people as possible. We need to get behind this and make a strong stand to get this done as soon as possible. There are only about 8 weeks left before spring practice begins. We need to have a new coach in place by then so that our athletes don't have to have anymore of the current philosophy in place. Its time for the parents to stand up and make a statement. The administration has had numerous chances to correct the problem, but has turned their back to the real issues. They are letting the children, parents and general public down. We need to unite ASAP.

Chieftain wrote:

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Who is going to come in here and beat Ruston, West Monroe and Ouachita? There is no easy answer like just change the head coach and we win district. I've said it before, the problems are deeper than just who is head football coach.

You are right, there is no easy answer, but you have to start with the root of the problem. It is obvious that you don't know much about what is going on with the football program or the current administration. Go to the practices or games and observe it for yourself. It is impossible at the high school level to be dominant without a great coach. That's why West Monroe, Ruston and Quachita are so good, they have a great system in place. We have and have had as good of athletes at NCHS. We just have not supplied them with a good coach. We had players on the last team, and have some on next years team that can take it to the next level. They can't do it without the proper coaching. You can't have different plays and formations called in by two or three different coaches. That happened on several occasions last season. It had the offense in a constant state of confusion. You have to be physical in practice. This is not being allowed. Good coaches substitute players in and out to give them a break,not run them in the dirt until they can't go anymore. Good coaches put there best athletes on the field and play them as much as possible. There have been several players over the past 2 or 3 years standing on the sidelines, that were not being played when they should have been. Wake up and smell the roses! We need help, and we need it now. Our roses stink right now, and its people like you that is making it that way. Get involved and learn the game that you seem to know nothing about.

Rover wrote:

<quoted text>You are right, there is no easy answer, but you have to start with the root of the problem. It is obvious that you don't know much about what is going on with the football program or the current administration. Go to the practices or games and observe it for yourself. It is impossible at the high school level to be dominant without a great coach. That's why West Monroe, Ruston and Quachita are so good, they have a great system in place. We have and have had as good of athletes at NCHS. We just have not supplied them with a good coach. We had players on the last team, and have some on next years team that can take it to the next level. They can't do it without the proper coaching. You can't have different plays and formations called in by two or three different coaches. That happened on several occasions last season. It had the offense in a constant state of confusion. You have to be physical in practice. This is not being allowed. Good coaches substitute players in and out to give them a break,not run them in the dirt until they can't go anymore. Good coaches put there best athletes on the field and play them as much as possible. There have been several players over the past 2 or 3 years standing on the sidelines, that were not being played when they should have been. Wake up and smell the roses! We need help, and we need it now. Our roses stink right now, and its people like you that is making it that way. Get involved and learn the game that you seem to know nothing about.

Only one response to your rant, we do not have the players out that it takes to compete in 5A. Maybe you are right, be like the baseball coach and play A and AA teams and get wins from those type teams, teams that when you beat them you don't get any better and when you lose to them you look like fools. The problems are deeper than just a coach or two. Pierce may not be the answer, but getting rid of him is far from the solution.

Chieftain wrote:

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Only one response to your rant, we do not have the players out that it takes to compete in 5A. Maybe you are right, be like the baseball coach and play A and AA teams and get wins from those type teams, teams that when you beat them you don't get any better and when you lose to them you look like fools. The problems are deeper than just a coach or two. Pierce may not be the answer, but getting rid of him is far from the solution.

You arewrong about the players not being 5A material. There are several players that are high quality players. I agree though, there are some that couldn't make it in 1A. There are also 5A quality players on 1A teams. The problem is, there are excellent players that are walking the halls that don't even try out. The don;t want to waste their time when the instructional level and work ethics are so bad. So tell me, since you are such an expert, what is the solution. So many say that it isn't the coaches or the administrations fault. Then what is it? Tell us, so that we can fix the problem.

I NEVER said it wasn't the administration's fault. It has to start at the School Board and Superintendent level and make a committment to football. Football is what gives the school a rallying point and helps fund itself when successful. It makes the band work, the cheerleaders/danceline work, etc. Without a successful football team or at least a 5-5 type team, there is nothing to get excited about sports wise in the fall. Who knows what Pierce could have done if he was given a decent staff and funding when he got here. It is to late for him, but just replacing him isn't the answer. That is the point I'm trying to make. Just bringing in Coach X isn't going to make a huge difference without the rest of the package. You can hate Pierce all you want, but there is more to the puzzle. Also, the principal has to have control of the school. Is the administration going to run the school or are the thugs in charge? The kids that are in the hall and not on the team for several reasons, but it isn't just because of the coach. The same type kids haven't played for Cieslak in good times or bad and same for coaches prior to him, so that excuse is tired and has been used at NCHS for decades. Some kids are to lazy, don't have confidence, need to work, have no family support, etc. Bottom line, don't fire Pierce until a plan is in place to make things better. He is a problem, but he ain't THE problem.

Anybody want to predict next years record. Let's just take a survey of the state in 5A and see how many coaches have jobs with this record. Not!! Let's not even bring up who should be the A.D.

Where is Coach John Wayne Odum?

Chieftain wrote:

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Forget about football, we got beat by St Mary's, a class A team, last night. Let's get rid of the baseball coaches.

I'd hate to think what would happen to a baseball player if he popped off to Rickey the way SOME football players talk to the head coach ~~ they'd never see the dugout again!

Chieftain wrote:

<quoted text> The problems are deeper than just a coach or two. Pierce may not be the answer, but getting rid of him is far from the solution.

If Pierce isn't the answer then he needs to go. As I've said before, the coach is the first step. Quit finding excuses to keep the the problem. Duh!

Natchitoches Central = Sleazy, Sleazy!
St. Mary's whupped you = Easy, Easy!!

Eagle wrote:

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If Pierce isn't the answer then he needs to go. As I've said before, the coach is the first step. Quit finding excuses to keep the the problem. Duh!

I'm not a Pierce fan, just don't think he was put in a winnable situation. Change it all, but be fair.

Odum wrote:

Natchitoches Central = Sleazy, Sleazy!
St. Mary's whupped you = Easy, Easy!!

I realize you ae probably not even a SMH student, but there is plenty of room for both schools to have successful sports programs like it was years ago. It is crazy that SM beat NCHS inbaseball. NCHS is a 5A program and the fact is there are plenty of kids to develop good baseball, football and basketball teams.

Hey Chieftain, you obiviously can't make up your mind about where the problem lies. One post you say we don't have the talent, the next you say it's the school board then you want to say the system is bad. As usual your ilk get so caught up in wanting to be on all sides of the issue in the interest of "fairness" that you can't make a cogent argument on just exactly what you would do to fix the situation.

Here's the deal, see if you can keep up. First and foremost spring training is only a few weeks away. The head coach has had no real off season plan for the players. The West Monroes of the state started the upcomming season one week after the playoffs. That is what sets winning programs apart from the also rans. Besides, five wins in three seasons tells us that this coach is incapable of doing the job. Everyone that went to the games and watched these talented young men agree that NCHS should have won at least five games. That is how much better our talent was over those five schools.

Next you must keep in mind that the school board has not been calling the plays and we cannot expect a change in the makeup of the board for another eighteen months when we will have elections. Our kids cannot and should not have to wait for a change in the board to have the winning seasons they deserve.

Last but not least, King David is empowered to get rid of the A.D./Head Coach and has chosen not to inspite of all the parents that have told him that is exactly what he needs to do.

So, in summation, the "easiest" and most important target considering the time element is the Head Coach. Next we work on changing the school board and last but not least we get principals that have the kids interests at heart.

Any other course of action dilutes the strength needed for change.

Fair? Life is not fair and I can prove it by pointing to our school system. Only in our public schools do we allow the interests of a few, in this case an incompetent adult, adversely affect the lives of the kids. Fair? Your argument is that you have to change everything at once otherwise it won't work or it won't be fair. Your argument only ensures that the change you say you want can never occur. Stupidity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. If the head coach remains I know exactly what the outcome will be.

None of us that have really thought this out believe that changing a Head Coach is going to cure every ill in the system. We have to start somewhere. Getting rid of him accrues immediate benefits to the football team and gets us ready for the next challenge up ahead.

We're stronger with you than without you. Get on board.