California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

Scary, how 4 justices can overrule what the the majority of californians (61 Percent) voted. Let's recall these gay lesbian judges!

Those who focus on the "will of the people" ignore the fact that fundamental constitutional rights cannot be taken away by majority vote. And today, the California Supreme Court finally acknowledged that committed gay and lesbian relationships are entitled to the very same dignity and respect as any other marriage--and that gay and lesbian people are equal under the law. Truly an historic day.

I was just waiting for the bottom feeders to start commenting.

If we left it to the "will of the people" Jim Crow laws would still be in place in the South.

Or maybe you prefer that they were?

I was never able to understand how one's sexual orientation excluded you from equal rights! This is finally correcting an injustice.

I am a straight married woman, and what happens in my bedroom is not the business of the state. My right to marry shoud not depend on what happens in my bedroom. My rights are determined by that fact that I am a PERSON.

To those upset about this ruling....what can be wrong about ANYONE declaring love, fidelity and comittment to the person they declare a lifelong partnership with? Why such rancor for that?

Get ready, the Poligamists are going to challenge the laws banning their marriages as well. A Pandoras box has just been opened, hopefully, we will be able to fix this before it goes too far. On the other hand, we shouldn;t too worried. This won't be the last word on Gay marriage. The ruling will be appealed, and if upheld, it will go to Federal court, then the US Supreme court. They still have a long way to go and alot can change. I mean, when marajuanna was legalized in California, alot of people thought it would be legalized everywhere, but that still has not happened and is still illegal under Federal law, just like Gay mariage is still illegal under Federal law. So the old saying as California goes so goes the nation is not always true.

Proud VJO Lesbian wrote:

Those who focus on the "will of the people" ignore the fact that fundamental constitutional rights cannot be taken away by majority vote. And today, the California Supreme Court finally acknowledged that committed gay and lesbian relationships are entitled to the very same dignity and respect as any other marriage--and that gay and lesbian people are equal under the law. Truly an historic day.

So what you are saying then is that the minority (i.e. homosexuals) have the right to impose their beliefs on society simply because they are the minority?

Finally wrote:

I was never able to understand how one's sexual orientation excluded you from equal rights! This is finally correcting an injustice.
I am a straight married woman, and what happens in my bedroom is not the business of the state. My right to marry shoud not depend on what happens in my bedroom. My rights are determined by that fact that I am a PERSON.
To those upset about this ruling....what can be wrong about ANYONE declaring love, fidelity and comittment to the person they declare a lifelong partnership with? Why such rancor for that?

You obviously have never seen a "Gay Pride Parade" in the city. It's a disgusting array of disgusting open homosexuality and I hear Vallejo has them now. If this were limited to the "bedroom" this wouldn't be such a big deal, but these crazy SF/Bay Area homosexuals display their sexuality openly. I have a right to not have my kids exposed to that lifestyle but gays seem to think they can force their lifestyle on the entire world and that is a travisty of justice.

Finally wrote:

I was never able to understand how one's sexual orientation excluded you from equal rights! This is finally correcting an injustice.
I am a straight married woman, and what happens in my bedroom is not the business of the state. My right to marry shoud not depend on what happens in my bedroom. My rights are determined by that fact that I am a PERSON.
To those upset about this ruling....what can be wrong about ANYONE declaring love, fidelity and comittment to the person they declare a lifelong partnership with? Why such rancor for that?

I never understood how a sexual preference could become a monority.

oops.....minority

David DeSilva Reno NV wrote:

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You obviously have never seen a "Gay Pride Parade" in the city. It's a disgusting array of disgusting open homosexuality and I hear Vallejo has them now. If this were limited to the "bedroom" this wouldn't be such a big deal, but these crazy SF/Bay Area homosexuals display their sexuality openly. I have a right to not have my kids exposed to that lifestyle but gays seem to think they can force their lifestyle on the entire world and that is a travisty of justice.

Amazing isn't it, that Gay Pride is a positive thing, but Straight Pride would be classified as a hate group?

YardDuty wrote:

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Amazing isn't it, that Gay Pride is a positive thing, but Straight Pride would be classified as a hate group?

As would White Entertainment Television, etc.

Polygamists everywhere are rejoicing. They will use the very same argument that the gay mafia used on the 4 socialists judges they had seated on the bench. Why do people use the "what happens in my bedroom argument". Hello, its all over. Gone to a a freak, i mean gay pride parade lately. What revolting acts takes place at such an event when you should be on your best behavior as an ambassador to the movement. But you just cant control yourselves, your sick in the head and need treatment.

once again the courts prove your vote doesn't mean a thing. next marrages between dogs and humans, goats etc. the wording of the justices open the door for that. but on the bright side, they would then be a legal tax deduction! nothing like lowering standards and morality. and most important, more proof your vote doesn't mean a thing!

David DeSilva Reno NV
"Get ready, the Poligamists are going to challenge the laws banning their marriages as well. A Pandoras box has just been opened, hopefully, we will be able to fix this before it goes too far." i have been suprised they haven't tried "freedom of religion". they are being denied their right to practice religion their way. yes, the flood gates are open and pandoras box is open for sure. a sure fix is fix the court system. another is a measure baning any court from overturning a vote of the people. it is for sure "we the people " means little.

The will of the majority is often at variance with the rights of the minority. Anyone paying attention to the history of race relations in this country understands that without the intervention of the courts and subsequently the federal government, the will of the folks with voting privileges in the south, namely white citizens, would never have granted rights to blacks in their midst. Sunday afternoon lynchings were family affairs, with picnics in the park beneath the dangling bodies of poor blacks who'd been accused of something.

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/lm...

Majorities can easily tyrannize minorities. In a just society the courts can offer relief. No doubt homosexuality has been a very divisive issue, perhaps because it forces us to confront our own homophobia. Religions will stand against it in the name of god with selected passages from holy texts. But religions have often been the instruments of repression used by frightened people who would rather not come to terms with the realities of life. Homosexuality has been part of the human condition FOREVER. That it has been hidden away for so long is actually quite sad.

The California Supreme Court is simply acknowledging a fundamental truth that all persons are created equal and entitled to equal protection under the law, whether they are gay or straight. So long as government provides official sanction for the institution of marriage, it must extend that sanction to ALL people. This is not rocket science and it certainly isn't about biblical fundamentalism. If you don't want to marry someone of the same gender, don't. Beyond that it is none of your business. Thus sayeth the Supreme Court.

gun metal blue wrote:

once again the courts prove your vote doesn't mean a thing. next marrages between dogs and humans, goats etc.

Gun metal blue I'd love to show you a good time & check out the "gun" your packing.

Vallejo Visitor great post.

Vallejo Visitor wrote:

The will of the majority is often at variance with the rights of the minority. Anyone paying attention to the history of race relations in this country understands that without the intervention of the courts and subsequently the federal government, the will of the folks with voting privileges in the south, namely white citizens, would never have granted rights to blacks in their midst. Sunday afternoon lynchings were family affairs, with picnics in the park beneath the dangling bodies of poor blacks who'd been accused of something.
http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/lm...
Majorities can easily tyrannize minorities. In a just society the courts can offer relief. No doubt homosexuality has been a very divisive issue, perhaps because it forces us to confront our own homophobia. Religions will stand against it in the name of god with selected passages from holy texts. But religions have often been the instruments of repression used by frightened people who would rather not come to terms with the realities of life. Homosexuality has been part of the human condition FOREVER. That it has been hidden away for so long is actually quite sad.
The California Supreme Court is simply acknowledging a fundamental truth that all persons are created equal and entitled to equal protection under the law, whether they are gay or straight. So long as government provides official sanction for the institution of marriage, it must extend that sanction to ALL people. This is not rocket science and it certainly isn't about biblical fundamentalism. If you don't want to marry someone of the same gender, don't. Beyond that it is none of your business. Thus sayeth the Supreme Court.

So it's all about equality, right? Well, how about a brother and sister wishing to marry each other, or a father and daughter, or two brothers, sisters? They each have the right of equality under the Constitution. They would be two consenting adults. Heck, one or both could be unable to have children, thus eliminating the genetic defect argument. Should they be allowed to marry? Remember, equality......

Vallejo Visitor wrote:

The will of the majority is often at variance with the rights of the minority. Anyone paying attention to the history of race relations in this country understands that without the intervention of the courts and subsequently the federal government, the will of the folks with voting privileges in the south, namely white citizens, would never have granted rights to blacks in their midst. Sunday afternoon lynchings were family affairs, with picnics in the park beneath the dangling bodies of poor blacks who'd been accused of something.
http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/lm...
Majorities can easily tyrannize minorities. In a just society the courts can offer relief. No doubt homosexuality has been a very divisive issue, perhaps because it forces us to confront our own homophobia. Religions will stand against it in the name of god with selected passages from holy texts. But religions have often been the instruments of repression used by frightened people who would rather not come to terms with the realities of life. Homosexuality has been part of the human condition FOREVER. That it has been hidden away for so long is actually quite sad.
The California Supreme Court is simply acknowledging a fundamental truth that all persons are created equal and entitled to equal protection under the law, whether they are gay or straight. So long as government provides official sanction for the institution of marriage, it must extend that sanction to ALL people. This is not rocket science and it certainly isn't about biblical fundamentalism. If you don't want to marry someone of the same gender, don't. Beyond that it is none of your business. Thus sayeth the Supreme Court.

These are separate issues and after all what is the point of having a democracy?

Vallejo Visitor wrote:

The will of the majority is often at variance with the rights of the minority. Anyone paying attention to the history of race relations in this country understands that without the intervention of the courts and subsequently the federal government, the will of the folks with voting privileges in the south, namely white citizens, would never have granted rights to blacks in their midst. Sunday afternoon lynchings were family affairs, with picnics in the park beneath the dangling bodies of poor blacks who'd been accused of something.
http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/lm...
Majorities can easily tyrannize minorities. In a just society the courts can offer relief. No doubt homosexuality has been a very divisive issue, perhaps because it forces us to confront our own homophobia. Religions will stand against it in the name of god with selected passages from holy texts. But religions have often been the instruments of repression used by frightened people who would rather not come to terms with the realities of life. Homosexuality has been part of the human condition FOREVER. That it has been hidden away for so long is actually quite sad.
The California Supreme Court is simply acknowledging a fundamental truth that all persons are created equal and entitled to equal protection under the law, whether they are gay or straight. So long as government provides official sanction for the institution of marriage, it must extend that sanction to ALL people. This is not rocket science and it certainly isn't about biblical fundamentalism. If you don't want to marry someone of the same gender, don't. Beyond that it is none of your business. Thus sayeth the Supreme Court.

The next step in the slow but steady degradation of a once moral society and the second step in the abolishment of the family unit. The first being, one parent households.

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools!"

Oh, how true!