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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14605 Jul 6, 2012
Illuminati wrote:
Please excuse the typo's in the previous post. I want to add one other thing. The Left tries to associate the NAZIs with the Conservative political belief system. The NAZIs were SOCIALISTS. The world was outraged by the attrocities committed by them so the Left portrays them as a right wing dictatoship. The Communists were our allies in WWII. The Communists killed an estimated 20 million of their own people in the war, but the left in this country seems to embrace their theory of politics without admitting their admiration. The point is there is little difference between NAZIS and Communists. The left embraces one and shuns the other.
The left is not for communism.

Since: Dec 11

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#14606 Jul 6, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Does it even matter who they adopt? It should not.
I have read about this many times. Not sure where to look it up.
You are so against abortion but you vote against what helps keep abortions down.
Mike, I refute your point that more gay/lesbian couples adopt children with disabilities. You always want us to show proof, well show your proof. The fact is Mike, children with disabilities have a chance of a snowball in NC/hell of being adopted by anyone. I never said I was against anyone adopting children with disabilities. I pointed out based upon research, and basic reasoning your scenario of gay/lesbians adopting more children with disabilities is practically impossible Don't put words into my posts.

Since: Dec 11

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#14607 Jul 6, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Fact is, gay couples adopt or wish to adopt a lot due to the fact they do not usually have there own children. Although contrary to the belief of some here, they can procreate. Just not with their own sex. They often have surrogate sex or artificial insemination.
My point is, they can have children and thus being in a married situation it helps to ensure a team effort accountable to raise the child.
I see you did not refute that main point.
This whole post has nothing to do with the fact you can't prove the claim you made about gay/lesbians adopt children with disabilities more often. How anyone, straight, gay, lesbian, bi, tri or whatever comes about having a child is not the issue, the fact you can't prove your point.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14608 Jul 6, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Ok Mike. Last time. You talk a lot without really saying anything. Your opinion is that I have no logical explination on my posture, when time and time again, I have stated, explained and went and found notes from classes and lectures I sat in while in college, copied and pasted them to this thread.
Again, you talk a lot without really saying anything. You allege a lot, without any supporting evidence. And the evidence you claim that supports your testimony is as weak as water, from my perspective.
I forgot you were an expert on evolution with all your documented scientific evidence. Move over Darwin, Mike is moving in.
Your opinion on why same sex marriage should be legalized in North Carolina and obviously your posture on gays is not supported with any solid empirical evidence, just opinion.
The vast majority of North Carolinians, including myself, disagreed with your posture and opinion on same sex marriage. I disagree with your posture on Obamacare. I disagree with the Democrat political party posture and ideas on anything.
Mike, I don't want to be your friend. I don't want to change your opinion. You are entitled to draw your own conclusions from where ever you minds collects them from. And you have yet to prove or disprove anything.
Good luck with the crusades and see you on the battlefield in November.
What claims of mine do you not believe? This is not a term paper. So I am not going to give footnotes to all my claims. I see you refuted none of my claims or my logic.
Not much of a debater are you?
This is a debate thread. Kind of pointless for you to come here and not debate the issues fully.
I showed how your logic is flawed. Are you the sort who just believes what he believes and never listens to alternative logic and change an opinion? I think they call that closed minded.
But you seem comfortable in the closed minded bubble.
Bacon has already admitted to being closed minded so I am wondering if that is a trend of conservatives.

I study a lot of evolution.My favorite is evolutionary psychology. I do not think I have made any claims of evolution that is not the consensus of the scientific community.
I do know you have. Homosexuality is not a choice. That is the consensus of the national academy of sciences.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14609 Jul 6, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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This whole post has nothing to do with the fact you can't prove the claim you made about gay/lesbians adopt children with disabilities more often. How anyone, straight, gay, lesbian, bi, tri or whatever comes about having a child is not the issue, the fact you can't prove your point.
My point was that homosexuals adopt, thus marriage is good for this.
The handicapped part was a bonus to society. I have heard it many times being claimed but cannot know where to find the evidence. I do not need the claim to keep my point.
Do you dispute my main point?

I do know homosexuals adopt disabled people. Even if it were just a few, it would still make my point.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14610 Jul 6, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Mike, I refute your point that more gay/lesbian couples adopt children with disabilities. You always want us to show proof, well show your proof. The fact is Mike, children with disabilities have a chance of a snowball in NC/hell of being adopted by anyone. I never said I was against anyone adopting children with disabilities. I pointed out based upon research, and basic reasoning your scenario of gay/lesbians adopting more children with disabilities is practically impossible Don't put words into my posts.
You are against gay marriage. Gays being married would be considered a more stable home for adoption.

I know you just budded into the conversation and that is fine, but please try to understand what the actual point is.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14611 Jul 6, 2012
Illuminati wrote:
Please excuse the typo's in the previous post. I want to add one other thing. The Left tries to associate the NAZIs with the Conservative political belief system. The NAZIs were SOCIALISTS. The world was outraged by the attrocities committed by them so the Left portrays them as a right wing dictatoship. The Communists were our allies in WWII. The Communists killed an estimated 20 million of their own people in the war, but the left in this country seems to embrace their theory of politics without admitting their admiration. The point is there is little difference between NAZIS and Communists. The left embraces one and shuns the other.
The left likes some socialist ideas. Not all of them.
But it was not the socialism that was the problem America warred with Hitler over.
If a country wants to be socialist, that is their choice. Who are we to judge? But Hitler invaded countries and tried to kill off an entire race/religion. He also killed homosexuals as he believed as conservatives do that homosexuality is a crime against god and nature.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14612 Jul 6, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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I have no objections in races staying within their own race. I have no objections of races staying within their own confines. Whites with whites, blacks with blacks, and so on. I have not tried to hide the fact that I support segregation. Keeping the races seperate.
Each race has their own internal issues and do not need the compounding of someone else's problems. You allege you support our troops yet there are still homeless and jobless Vietnam era Vets. Why aren't you out crusading on their behalf? I mean after all, they protected your freedom so you could come on Topix and berate me because you do not agree with my ideas or philosophy.
We all seen how the legacy of the Kennedys turned out and if that is your measure of what success is, then I will stay on my side of the street.
Again, I don't want to get to know you. I don't want to be your friend. I don't want to sit around smoking my fuente don arturo's discussing politics with you.
Matter of opinion on what ignorance is. American votes will decide what they will and will not tolerate in November.
Are your racist reasons embedded in the bible traditions as your anti homosexual ideology is?
Please tell us your logic for segregation?
Do you think mixing races together is unnatural also?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14613 Jul 6, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Hate to break the news but Fox news channel isn't the only thing out that talks about the 60's. I wasn't there but what I have learned from history is that the 60's has caused everyone to cautious about everyone else. It has caused everyone else to be in everyone else's business, because some people thought they were crusading for a better society by forcing their views on other people. For example, the civil rights movement.
I don't want to change your mind or sway your opinion. I will say that if I do not agree with your opinion or do not choose to align myself with they way that you think or the philosophies you believe in, does not necessarily mean that my ideals or philosophies are wrong. Perhaps, if you spent more time cleaning up your own backyard and less time trying to clean mine, you would be a little more happy personally.
Society has not grasped the concept that there is no win-win except in special olympics. Someone has to loose and someone has to win.
If you are not trying to sway someones opinion, what are you doing on topix?
Taxpayer

Point Harbor, NC

#14614 Jul 6, 2012
Illuminati wrote:
<quoted text>Many who claim to be Conservatve are simply politicians who say whatever they need to get elected. Many in the Tea Party movement are simply Conservatives who are tired of being lied to by Republicans claiming to be Conservatives. This is another example of demonization of the opposition by the left. The Tea Party has been portrayed as a bunch of gun toting right-wing racists. The fact is the Tea Party is a disorganized group of Americans who are tired of the BULLSHIT.
I hear you but,
it was not about the tea party. It was about being ripped off by people in government.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14615 Jul 6, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Obviously reject. Again, it is not a right but a choice. A choice that I do not agree with.
Why ask questions you already know the answers to unless you are trying to be a inflammatory prick.
Being gay is not a right?
You can disagree with homosexuality, but try to discriminate against a homosexual as an employer and see if it is a right.

Do you chose to be straight or do you believe you were born with only an urge to be with women?
Now apply the logic to your claims.
Taxpayer

Point Harbor, NC

#14616 Jul 6, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The left is not for communism.
Yes the left is communism and they need to be removed from this county.
They are enemy of all that beleave in Individual freedom and liberty.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14617 Jul 6, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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I agree the constitution does not spell it out, but like AZ, none of you guys have demonstrated what civil rights have been violated? They were allowed to assemble peacefully. They were allowed to talk about it. They allowed mainstream media to air and cover it. They did not enslave anyone. Their due process was the referendum. The majority of North Carolinians all agreed, that same sex marriage in North Carolina is not legal. They allowed the people to govern themselves and the people spoke loud and clear.
For the people of the people by the people. Guess that is a line too, right? Your rights end where ours begin. Don't confuse freedoms with privledges.
I figured you mike, az, seven and waco are all the shit bags that started flying the American flag after 9/11 instead of before.
When is the last time you thanked a Vet for your freedoms?
I think it is a civil rights issue because it is a denial of the pursuit of happiness that our declaration of Independence states is inalienable.

The state cannot show there is reason to deny marriage to homosexuals.

Eating in a restaurant is a privilege also, but it is now considered a civil rights issue. February one nineteen sixty.

But I am sure you disagree with those decisions also.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14618 Jul 6, 2012
Taxpayer wrote:
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Yes the left is communism and they need to be removed from this county.
They are enemy of all that beleave in Individual freedom and liberty.
Removed? And you are the one who screams about censorship and paranoid about government rounding up citizens?
Taxpayer

Point Harbor, NC

#14619 Jul 6, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
Hey Arnold...Silver boy thinks he's the only person in America that knows how to pull a trigger....hey Silver...I bet I can get you at three hundred yards with this 1917 6.5 mm Mauser....just uing iron sights.Of course...that's just an old WWI rifle.THIS 7mm magnum......well....let's just say its pretty darn accurate.
Waco1909 now we are talking I will call your 300yd with a AR10 at 500 yards iron sights or we can go a thousand with scope. You think Mikey or Arnold want to get in on this.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14620 Jul 6, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree the constitution does not spell it out, but like AZ, none of you guys have demonstrated what civil rights have been violated? They were allowed to assemble peacefully. They were allowed to talk about it. They allowed mainstream media to air and cover it. They did not enslave anyone. Their due process was the referendum. The majority of North Carolinians all agreed, that same sex marriage in North Carolina is not legal. They allowed the people to govern themselves and the people spoke loud and clear.
For the people of the people by the people. Guess that is a line too, right? Your rights end where ours begin. Don't confuse freedoms with privledges.
I figured you mike, az, seven and waco are all the shit bags that started flying the American flag after 9/11 instead of before.
When is the last time you thanked a Vet for your freedoms?
I am a vet. And I am sure disappointed in the citizens who voted against freedom to marry.
I served for America thinking we were a nation that stood for freedom. I put my life on the line for ALL people to have the freedom to pursue happiness. You are against giving such freedom. I am ashamed of how citizens like you disrespect my service by withholding freedom of others for no good reasons. Gay marriage hurts no one.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14621 Jul 6, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, your opinion.
I disagree with it.
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>"3. It always denies a child a mother or a father."
No, it does not. A child can have a mother, and his father can be married to a man. Who the child lives with does not deny them of having a mother or a father.
As many kids live are in split custody also.
You know, we allow divorced people to marry? I know you think divorce is immoral, but legislating personal morality is just not what I call freedom.
That is what the Taliban is known for. This is why we are not a theocracy.

This is not opinion, this is fact. I see you dispute none of it.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14622 Jul 6, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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And they were AZ...The people governed themselves and voted against legalized same sex marriage.
None of their civils rights were violated. And from what Mike said, they can get married in California. In front of friends and family, while taking their solem vows to one another, in front of a blood thirsty murderer witness called God.
Seems reasonable to me.
No god needed to marry, only a document from the state.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#14623 Jul 6, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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True, but same sex marriage is not a civil right. Being gay is not a right. It is a choice.
Again, in North Carolina, the overwhelming majority voted against legalized same sex marriage on referendum.
It is legal in California, and according to mike, you can even take your vows in front of a blood thirsty murderer witness called God.
Being gay is a right. What penalty do you think should be imposed for being gay?
Taxpayer

Point Harbor, NC

#14624 Jul 6, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Removed? And you are the one who screams about censorship and paranoid about government rounding up citizens?
I did not say censorship I say remove, they are crimals and the enemy of Americans.
Get the communist minded people out of this county and there will be nothing to be paranoid about. But if we let these people keep using democracy to destroy America we will have a reason to be paranoid. So far they have done a good job of putting their people in power to take the freedom we have put our lives on the line for and trash it.

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