Studying Flooding

Following years of devastating flooding, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has garnered funding to study ways to prevent it from happening again in the Upper Guyandotte River watershed.

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Tango Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #1 Aug 2, 2008 Just what we need..... another study.
Shootist “shooter” Joined: May 29, 2008 Comments: 3875 Pineville ISP: Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #2 Aug 2, 2008 Tango wrote: Just what we need..... another study. It would help if they would go back to dredging some of the smaller streams.. but NO we can't do that..might screw up the ecosystem.
Tango Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3 Aug 3, 2008 Shootist wrote: <quoted text>It would help if they would go back to dredging some of the smaller streams.. but NO we can't do that..might screw up the ecosystem. That would be the logical, cheapest means of taking care of the problem. If they would dredge and deposit the mud and rocks on the banks, the banks would soon be covered in grass and weeds, and help hold in the stream even more. I have seen this done in other countries - it didn't harm the wildlife, as a matter of fact, everything seemed to thrive. Of course they didn't have all the extra runoff from strip mines. Perhaps we should demand that our pets be protected as wild life too Lol - that might save our homes - my cat owns mine.
zx1z123 Joined: Aug 3, 2008 Comments: 9 Sugar Land, TX	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #4 Aug 3, 2008 That helps. http://www.zx1z.com
wvufan2 “Don't blame me.” Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Comments: 342 Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #5 Aug 15, 2008 Shootist wrote: <quoted text>It would help if they would go back to dredging some of the smaller streams.. but NO we can't do that..might screw up the ecosystem. LOL! Yeah they might kill a minnow or a crawdad!
IReality Check “Let It Be!” Joined: Aug 9, 2008 Comments: 1932 Mullens, West virginia ISP: Daniels, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #6 Aug 16, 2008 Tango wrote: Just what we need..... another study. Studies are valuable tools for solutions to problems. I hope the ACE CAN come up with a way to prevent flooding and save lives.... and still be safe for the ecosystem. ALL life is valuable and pertinent to the balance of nature and to the health of the only planet that we, at present, call home.If our planet dies, so shall we. There is a chain reaction, whether people want to admit it or not or are aware of, when species of any type are rendered extinct. The BALANCE of nature is not a myth just made up by a "bunch of tree huggers". Positively, the loss of human lives and property is uppermost in the minds of all, and every last available recourse to avert these disaters should be taken, but if it CAN be done so without killing off a food source for something higher up on the food chain, it emphatically should be done. WE, are the last rung on the top of the food chain "ladder", if you will,...... our ladder is only as strong and viable as the rungs far below us. Start removing them and see how long mankind can last. If you believe in the "SUPREME BEING", then you believe ALL life was placed here for a PURPOSE. Peace!
Shootist “shooter” Joined: May 29, 2008 Comments: 3875 Pineville ISP: Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #7 Aug 16, 2008 IReality Check wrote: <quoted text>Studies are valuable tools for solutions to problems. I hope the ACE CAN come up with a way to prevent flooding and save lives.... and still be safe for the ecosystem. ALL life is valuable and pertinent to the balance of nature and to the health of the only planet that we, at present, call home.If our planet dies, so shall we. There is a chain reaction, whether people want to admit it or not or are aware of, when species of any type are rendered extinct. The BALANCE of nature is not a myth just made up by a "bunch of tree huggers". Positively, the loss of human lives and property is uppermost in the minds of all, and every last available recourse to avert these disaters should be taken, but if it CAN be done so without killing off a food source for something higher up on the food chain, it emphatically should be done. WE, are the last rung on the top of the food chain "ladder", if you will,...... our ladder is only as strong and viable as the rungs far below us. Start removing them and see how long mankind can last. If you believe in the "SUPREME BEING", then you believe ALL life was placed here for a PURPOSE. Peace! You have valid points.. however let's climb higher on the ladder....Nancy Pelosi is "trying to save the planet" by not drilling for our own oil... The Chinese are getting rich off of us and are now drilling off of our coast (or rather Cuba's, which is close enough)...The Russians are starting to get rich because of their oil production and they just grabbed about a million barrels a day when they invaded Georgia....They keep getting stronger and richer, while we are starting to get poorer...But I guess that is the natural way to extinction (ours) What does this have to do with flooding? Somehow fits to me... in the entire scheme of things...Peace
Sadtoo Hurricane, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #8 Aug 16, 2008 Shootist wrote: <quoted text> You have valid points.. however let's climb higher on the ladder....Nancy Pelosi is "trying to save the planet" by not drilling for our own oil... The Chinese are getting rich off of us and are now drilling off of our coast (or rather Cuba's, which is close enough)...The Russians are starting to get rich because of their oil production and they just grabbed about a million barrels a day when they invaded Georgia....They keep getting stronger and richer, while we are starting to get poorer...But I guess that is the natural way to extinction (ours) What does this have to do with flooding? Somehow fits to me... in the entire scheme of things...Peace Shootist, You are so right in this point; we have to look at what is best for us instead of letting the rest of the world get ahead of us. However, I do think we have to be careful not to destroy that which we are trying to protect. Let me get back to the point at hand: I'm not saying that we shouldn't dredge. I'm all for it, but I think that it should be done responsibly and carefully so that it doesn't upset the delicate balance IReality Check was writing about.

vanished “Happy Thanksgiving!” Joined: Jun 29, 2008 Comments: 1641 USA ISP: Lynchburg, VA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #9 Aug 16, 2008 I am with Shootist! well put, I think that dredging could never be as harsh as a flood. When you can selectively clean what is necessary instead of trashing everything like a flood. Dredging would have to be much better and smarter.
Shootist “shooter” Joined: May 29, 2008 Comments: 3875 Pineville ISP: Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #10 Aug 16, 2008 Sadtoo wrote: <quoted text> Shootist, You are so right in this point; we have to look at what is best for us instead of letting the rest of the world get ahead of us. However, I do think we have to be careful not to destroy that which we are trying to protect. Let me get back to the point at hand: I'm not saying that we shouldn't dredge. I'm all for it, but I think that it should be done responsibly and carefully so that it doesn't upset the delicate balance IReality Check was writing about. No one with any sense could argue with what you said..I agree. I do remember dredging of the creeks when I was a young lad... I didn't take an inventory of all of the critters and plants at the time, but just "eye balling" the situation... the same ones before and after seem to still be there....
Shootist “shooter” Joined: May 29, 2008 Comments: 3875 Pineville ISP: Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #11 Aug 16, 2008 vanished wrote: I am with Shootist! well put, I think that dredging could never be as harsh as a flood. When you can selectively clean what is necessary instead of trashing everything like a flood. Dredging would have to be much better and smarter. Exactly
TRUE Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #12 Aug 16, 2008 I think cleaning all the trees out of the river every now and then would help and I know if we made everyone on the river get a septic tank and use it would be better than raw sewage going in river.
IReality Check “Let It Be!” Joined: Aug 9, 2008 Comments: 1932 Mullens, West virginia ISP: Daniels, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #13 Aug 16, 2008 Shootist wrote: <quoted text> You have valid points.. however let's climb higher on the ladder....Nancy Pelosi is "trying to save the planet" by not drilling for our own oil... The Chinese are getting rich off of us and are now drilling off of our coast (or rather Cuba's, which is close enough)...The Russians are starting to get rich because of their oil production and they just grabbed about a million barrels a day when they invaded Georgia....They keep getting stronger and richer, while we are starting to get poorer...But I guess that is the natural way to extinction (ours) What does this have to do with flooding? Somehow fits to me... in the entire scheme of things...Peace See first comment posted on this thread about "STUDIES" and the comment about killing "CRAWDADS AND MINNOWS" and THEN reread mine. It was'nt intended to be a political disscussion on any other point or "PELOSI'S "actions or lack of. IT is what it is. A VALID point... thank you for seeing that. And Peace to you also!
Shootist “shooter” Joined: May 29, 2008 Comments: 3875 Pineville ISP: Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #14 Aug 16, 2008 IReality Check wrote: <quoted text>See first comment posted on this thread about "STUDIES" and the comment about killing "CRAWDADS AND MINNOWS" and THEN reread mine. It was'nt intended to be a political disscussion on any other point or "PELOSI'S "actions or lack of. IT is what it is. A VALID point... thank you for seeing that. And Peace to you also! Your welcome... I did say in the scheme of things :)
Tango Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #15 Aug 16, 2008 Sadtoo wrote: <quoted text> Shootist, You are so right in this point; we have to look at what is best for us instead of letting the rest of the world get ahead of us. However, I do think we have to be careful not to destroy that which we are trying to protect. Let me get back to the point at hand: I'm not saying that we shouldn't dredge. I'm all for it, but I think that it should be done responsibly and carefully so that it doesn't upset the delicate balance IReality Check was writing about. At the present time, in southern West Virginia,(which was the focus of the study), there is no "delicate balance". The streams are already so polluted by runoff from strip mines,, logging etc., there ARE no minnows, in fact in the small feeder streams the water is so acidic, that it does not support any life at all. When the Corps of Engineers prevent us from dredging in order to save our homes, because of the "wildlife", you must forgive us for being cynical, for we have been living with these conditions for a good twenty years now. Believe me, dredging would not be a problem. We tend to become edgy when we are told to look at the big picture - we are perfectly capable of doing so. It is those people that are "looking at the big picture", who are ignoring the major problem.
Tango Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #16 Aug 16, 2008 Sadtoo wrote: <quoted text> Shootist, You are so right in this point; we have to look at what is best for us instead of letting the rest of the world get ahead of us. However, I do think we have to be careful not to destroy that which we are trying to protect. Let me get back to the point at hand: I'm not saying that we shouldn't dredge. I'm all for it, but I think that it should be done responsibly and carefully so that it doesn't upset the delicate balance IReality Check was writing about. I Apologize Sadtoo, I responded to the wrong comment. My response was intended for 1Realitycheck.
Tango Charleston, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #17 Aug 16, 2008 IReality Check wrote: <quoted text>Studies are valuable tools for solutions to problems. I hope the ACE CAN come up with a way to prevent flooding and save lives.... and still be safe for the ecosystem. ALL life is valuable and pertinent to the balance of nature and to the health of the only planet that we, at present, call home.If our planet dies, so shall we. There is a chain reaction, whether people want to admit it or not or are aware of, when species of any type are rendered extinct. The BALANCE of nature is not a myth just made up by a "bunch of tree huggers". Positively, the loss of human lives and property is uppermost in the minds of all, and every last available recourse to avert these disaters should be taken, but if it CAN be done so without killing off a food source for something higher up on the food chain, it emphatically should be done. WE, are the last rung on the top of the food chain "ladder", if you will,...... our ladder is only as strong and viable as the rungs far below us. Start removing them and see how long mankind can last. If you believe in the "SUPREME BEING", then you believe ALL life was placed here for a PURPOSE. Peace! Your comment indicated that you missed the point of MY comment. The issue has been the subject of many studies. You do not seem to understand that people here need action, not patronizing lectures on the ecosystem. Shootist was correct in his assessment. Without politics, we would have far less problems.
you are kidding AOL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #18 Aug 17, 2008 there is alot of clean up going on if some people would let them.You see men picking up medle and alun.everywhere theres one problem just like my neighbor he is jumping on his high horse because the men are taking alot of the stuff from river banks and leaving all the trash they have covered over that why we get so much trash they just don't want to take it to the dump.they get everything they can sell I think dnr should make these people clean up the river banks when it does flood i see him throwing trash in the river. It only cost 10.00 at the dump. he even call the state road to try to keep them from getting around the alley so they can't uncover his trash. thats really bad
vanished “Happy Thanksgiving!” Joined: Jun 29, 2008 Comments: 1641 USA ISP: Culpeper, VA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #19 Aug 17, 2008 Tango I enjoy you as much as I enjoy Shootist..Well almost Shootist. :) I am Shootist Official Yes Woman..LOL
Sadtoo Hurricane, WV	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #20 Aug 17, 2008 Tango wrote: <quoted text> At the present time, in southern West Virginia,(which was the focus of the study), there is no "delicate balance". The streams are already so polluted by runoff from strip mines,, logging etc., there ARE no minnows, in fact in the small feeder streams the water is so acidic, that it does not support any life at all. When the Corps of Engineers prevent us from dredging in order to save our homes, because of the "wildlife", you must forgive us for being cynical, for we have been living with these conditions for a good twenty years now. Believe me, dredging would not be a problem. We tend to become edgy when we are told to look at the big picture - we are perfectly capable of doing so. It is those people that are "looking at the big picture", who are ignoring the major problem. Point well taken. You are right! Dredging may actually HELP these situations. I don't know since I'm not an environmental scientist. I just know that I DO support dredging. I wish it had been done prior to the July flood in 2001. There was flooding in May of that same year if you recall. Nothing was going to stop the flooding in July; 11 inches of rain in just hours has to go somewhere. Dredging may have given some of that water someplace to go besides people's homes. That said, it makes sense to dredge before we have another major flood!

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