Glenpool Police Seek Witnesses To Fatality Accident

Well you know that is what is scary about Oklahoma. They will hit you and drive off that is any State that will do that. But what is really crazy you have to watch the other drivers when you are on the road. They think it is Dallas and they don't care who they hit. So you need to beware of the Dangers of the roads of Tulsa when you are traveling. You may be a victim of a Hit and run accident and that is very scary .... So keep your eyes on the road and drivers at all times if you want to be safe. I pray for Oklahoma

So what is scary about this story is the fact that not only was he a friend but his boss and when he seen him not get up and get hit by a car he LEFT HIM THERE..left him lying in the road and drove HOME which happens to be in the same neighborhood as the victim. Then actually RETURNED to the bar... something is not right... allot of things are not right with this story...!!!!

does anyone know if this is the same craig whos girlfriend is named lisa??? and if they are regulars at the bar?? and i wonder what Carol the owner has to say?

That my friend is the definition of a complete waste of air. Including the people at the bar and the girl-friend. May thier crimes come back on them 10 fold

So why did the police keep reporters a quarter mile away from the scene, yet let other traffic continue through the crime scene?
Was that to cover up a botched investigation?

hmmm...concerned, you are right...something is rotten with all this.

This is not that hard to figure out. The driver of the motorcycle was drunk when his friend fell off. If he speaks with the police he may be charged with dui and that may result in a vehicular homicide charge. He was charged with public drunk but the police need a witness to coroborate the charge.

Ok, The guy fell off the bike and killed quickly, pray for his soul but he was probably drunk, the driver was probably drunk so he didn't stop. hurried home to get the girlfriend to drive him back, lots of cops at the scene, he could have stopped and been arrested for DUI or go back to the bar and get arrested for public drunk. Do the math

Kay wrote:

So why did the police keep reporters a quarter mile away from the scene, yet let other traffic continue through the crime scene?
Was that to cover up a botched investigation?

Other cars did not driver THROUGH the crime scene...and the cars that were not patrol cars were other emergeny personel that were there to help with the whole thing! And they were not driving over the crime scene they had that blocked off. The media got there story just fine without being right up in the middle of it! It was not a scene that needed to be plastered all over the television screen!!!

I hope people are beginning to see what drinking and driving do. When will it be enough to convince people to stop?

Just a couple of questions/observations. I understand that the teenage girl didn't mean to hit the man (that's the definition of an accident), but if you rear-end another vehicle because you were unable to stop, you will almost certainly receive a citation for (at least) following too closely. If the vehicle in front of the teenage driver had time to swerve to avoid hitting the man, why didn't the teenager have time to stop? I don't think "There was no wrongdoing on her part" is entirely true.

Obviously the motorcycle driver shares a large degree of responsibility for this, so please don't think I'm letting him off the hook.

Just wondering and be honest now ~When you were 16 and first driving how much distance do you leave between you and the car in front of you? Since moving to Tulsa I have observed how you "Okies" drive and conduct yourselves on the highways & byways. I myself have driven in many states & towns and this is by far the worst driving town I have ever been in. Be safe and leave at least a cars length between you & the vehicle in front of you. God Bless that child with hopes that she will be able to deal with the horrible accident.

She is a 16 year old driving...meaning she hasn't been driving long at all. Maybe you were a professional driver at 16 but give her a break. It was dark, there's usually alot of traffic there and she had no clue why the first car swerved. Who's to say that she didn't have a car next to her and couldn't swerve or break completely. She is having a very difficult time with this and it is in NO WAY her fault!! People aren't suppoused to be lying drunk on the middle of the highway, and if they are then this is what happens. She has to live with this for the rest of her life so back off!!

Ryder wrote:

Just a couple of questions/observations. I understand that the teenage girl didn't mean to hit the man (that's the definition of an accident), but if you rear-end another vehicle because you were unable to stop, you will almost certainly receive a citation for (at least) following too closely. If the vehicle in front of the teenage driver had time to swerve to avoid hitting the man, why didn't the teenager have time to stop? I don't think "There was no wrongdoing on her part" is entirely true.
Obviously the motorcycle driver shares a large degree of responsibility for this, so please don't think I'm letting him off the hook.

Ted Kennedy wrote:

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A vehicle has "brake lights" to warn of an oncoming stop, a human, dog, horse in the road does not. She could be possibly charged with following too closely, but I don't think negligent homicide should apply.

Yet the vehicle in front of the teenager WAS able to avoid hitting the person.

Christa wrote:

She is a 16 year old driving...meaning she hasn't been driving long at all. Maybe you were a professional driver at 16 but give her a break. It was dark, there's usually alot of traffic there and she had no clue why the first car swerved. Who's to say that she didn't have a car next to her and couldn't swerve or break completely. She is having a very difficult time with this and it is in NO WAY her fault!! People aren't suppoused to be lying drunk on the middle of the highway, and if they are then this is what happens. She has to live with this for the rest of her life so back off!!
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I feel terrible for what this young lady is going through and am not trying to suggest that she be held responsible for the mans death. I am suggesting that the fact a vehicle in front of her was able to react and avoid hitting the man, she should certainly have had time. The law against "following too closely" is there for a reason... to avoid hitting things (cars, people, objects, etc). I'm terribly sorry for your friends trauma, but just imagine how things might have been different if she were being just a bit more attentive.

Toni wrote:

Just wondering and be honest now ~When you were 16 and first driving how much distance do you leave between you and the car in front of you? Since moving to Tulsa I have observed how you "Okies" drive and conduct yourselves on the highways & byways. I myself have driven in many states & towns and this is by far the worst driving town I have ever been in. Be safe and leave at least a cars length between you & the vehicle in front of you. God Bless that child with hopes that she will be able to deal with the horrible accident.

Yeah, there are some truly horrid drivers here. I'd drive in Dallas traffic ANY day over Tulsa traffic.

Ryder wrote:

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I feel terrible for what this young lady is going through and am not trying to suggest that she be held responsible for the mans death. I am suggesting that the fact a vehicle in front of her was able to react and avoid hitting the man, she should certainly have had time. The law against "following too closely" is there for a reason... to avoid hitting things (cars, people, objects, etc). I'm terribly sorry for your friends trauma, but just imagine how things might have been different if she were being just a bit more attentive.

Well, imagine how things would be different if these drunk dummies hadn't gotten out on the road in the first place. If you are laying in the middle of a highway at night, it is inevitable that somebody is going to run you over...unless maybe you are wrapped in reflective tape. For this reason, the police aren't interested in pressing charges against her.

Now that I look at the story a little closer, it says that the white car was following the motorcycle and that the second car was behind the white car, but it doesn't say how close the second car was to the white car. Perhaps it was 100 yards behind it. She may not have even seen the white car swerve and just came up on a guy laying in the road. I doubt she even had time to react at 65mph.
The white car following the motorcycle probably saw the guy fall off and therefore was able to react.

Kay wrote:

So why did the police keep reporters a quarter mile away from the scene, yet let other traffic continue through the crime scene?
Was that to cover up a botched investigation?

Its Glenpool PD. Did you expect something different?

Mike wrote:

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Yep, the next car would have run him over, or maybe the car after that... What a difference it would have made.
How bout this, just imagine how things would have been different if a couple drunk guys didn't hop on a motorcycle and try and drive home from the bar.

As I said before (now for the third time), the motorcycle driver was obviously criminally negligent and I'm not trying to mitigate his responsibility in this. I simply don't agree with you that prudent driving on the part of the teenager couldn't have prevented criminal negligence from turning to tragedy. Does she deserve to go to jail? No. Does she deserve a ticket? Maybe. Should she learn a hard lesson from this and become a better driver because of it? Definitely.