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Father, Son and Holy Spirit
True yesterday, today and forever.

You who do not know Him are sad.

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Gromit wrote:
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Why do you call me good: No one is good but One, that is, God.”(Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18, and Luke 18:19)
“My Father is greater than I.”(John 14:28)
“I do nothing of myself, but as the Father taught me, I speak these things.”(John 8:28)
“Most assuredly, I say to you, the son can do nothing of himself....”(John 5:19)
“But I know Him, for I am from Him, and He sent me.”(John 7:29)
“He who rejects me rejects Him who sent me.”(Luke 10:16)
“But now I go away to Him who sent me....”(John 16:5)
“Jesus answered them and said,‘My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.’”(John 7:16)
“For I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.”(John 12:49)
“The first of all the commandments is:‘Hear O Israel, The Lord our God, the Lord is one.”(Mark 12:29)
“But of that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”(Mark 13:32)
“‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”(Luke 4:8)
“My food is to do the will of Him who sent me ...”(John 4:34)
“I can of myself do nothing ... I do not seek my own will but the will of the Father who sent me.”(John 5:30)
“For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.”(John 6:38)
“My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.”(John 7:16)
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God.”(John 20:17)
have you even read the bible?
You are my new hero! Should we send him some aloe for that wicked burn?:))
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Why does it matter what god we pray to? most Christian ppl are hypocrites anyway sin and ask to be forgiven over and over...PRACTICE WHAT U PREACH

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justsomedude wrote:
<quoted text> You are my new hero! Should we send him some aloe for that wicked burn?:))
not at all. i just provided what he asked for.

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just bumping the thread.

“What divides people is wrong ”

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I think its curious that some gospels weren't included.
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they have actually read the bible. most of them i have met have read them many times over.
what does it matter to you what another persons beliefs are?
why are you here stirring a pot that already stinks?
are you so insecure in your own beliefs that you feel that someone who believes differently is somehow a threat to you?
do you really live with that much fear?
You obviously do not know much about the Christian faith, we are given the Great Commission by our Lord, and that is to tell others about Jesus. We do not feel threatened by anyone who believes differently, we are doing what the Lord called us to do, and that is to win souls for Christ. Many, many, people who are not Christians have read the Bible, and are well versed in quoting scripture. Even Satan himself believes, because he knows that Jesus Christ is real. He is the one who feels threatened, because he knows his time is near, that is why he is working hard to defeat the Kingdom, what he does not want to admit, is that he is already defeated, Jesus won when He went to the Cross. There is no fear in Love, the love of Jesus. We have nothing to fear, and we want everyone else to have the same assurance! You are trying to twist everything pertaining to Christianity. You just do not understand, because you do not want to.

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Love God wrote:
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You obviously do not know much about the Christian faith, we are given the Great Commission by our Lord, and that is to tell others about Jesus. We do not feel threatened by anyone who believes differently, we are doing what the Lord called us to do, and that is to win souls for Christ. Many, many, people who are not Christians have read the Bible, and are well versed in quoting scripture. Even Satan himself believes, because he knows that Jesus Christ is real. He is the one who feels threatened, because he knows his time is near, that is why he is working hard to defeat the Kingdom, what he does not want to admit, is that he is already defeated, Jesus won when He went to the Cross. There is no fear in Love, the love of Jesus. We have nothing to fear, and we want everyone else to have the same assurance! You are trying to twist everything pertaining to Christianity. You just do not understand, because you do not want to.
i understand the christian faith much better than you could imagine.

now go read your book of matthew (carefully) again and say you are supposed to spread your propaganda.

even better yet, ust take the time to actually read your bible.

i havent twisted anything at all. i merely presented the facts without the circular nonsensical rhetoric of religion.

you are being consumed by your talking snake cult and do not realise what is happening to you.
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Love God wrote:
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You obviously do not know much about the Christian faith, we are given the Great Commission by our Lord, and that is to tell others about Jesus.
O believe me. We know that. Boy do we ever know that...
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Gromit wrote:
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Why do you call me good: No one is good but One, that is, God.”(Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18, and Luke 18:19)
“My Father is greater than I.”(John 14:28)
“I do nothing of myself, but as the Father taught me, I speak these things.”(John 8:28)
“Most assuredly, I say to you, the son can do nothing of himself....”(John 5:19)
“But I know Him, for I am from Him, and He sent me.”(John 7:29)
“He who rejects me rejects Him who sent me.”(Luke 10:16)
“But now I go away to Him who sent me....”(John 16:5)
“Jesus answered them and said,‘My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.’”(John 7:16)
“For I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.”(John 12:49)
“The first of all the commandments is:‘Hear O Israel, The Lord our God, the Lord is one.”(Mark 12:29)
“But of that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”(Mark 13:32)
“‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”(Luke 4:8)
“My food is to do the will of Him who sent me ...”(John 4:34)
“I can of myself do nothing ... I do not seek my own will but the will of the Father who sent me.”(John 5:30)
“For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.”(John 6:38)
“My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.”(John 7:16)
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God.”(John 20:17)
have you even read the bible?
None of these verse say Jesus is not God. The KJB in 1 John 5:7 does however. "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these THREE ARE ONE." Almost all bibles since the KJB leave this verse out. I know you will say the Word is not Jesus, but in John 1:1 it is very clear the the Word is Jesus. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the WORD is GOD. There will always be an attack on Jesus saying He is not God until He returns again!
Love God

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Gromit wrote:
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Why do you call me good: No one is good but One, that is, God.”(Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18, and Luke 18:19)
“My Father is greater than I.”(John 14:28)
“I do nothing of myself, but as the Father taught me, I speak these things.”(John 8:28)
“Most assuredly, I say to you, the son can do nothing of himself....”(John 5:19)
“But I know Him, for I am from Him, and He sent me.”(John 7:29)
“He who rejects me rejects Him who sent me.”(Luke 10:16)
“But now I go away to Him who sent me....”(John 16:5)
“Jesus answered them and said,‘My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.’”(John 7:16)
“For I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me gave me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.”(John 12:49)
“The first of all the commandments is:‘Hear O Israel, The Lord our God, the Lord is one.”(Mark 12:29)
“But of that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”(Mark 13:32)
“‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”(Luke 4:8)
“My food is to do the will of Him who sent me ...”(John 4:34)
“I can of myself do nothing ... I do not seek my own will but the will of the Father who sent me.”(John 5:30)
“For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.”(John 6:38)
“My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.”(John 7:16)
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God.”(John 20:17)
have you even read the bible?
In all of the verses, He is referrring to God, the Father, who is the first part of the Trinity. God the Father is the first part of the Trinity, and Jesus, the Son, is pointing the way to the Father, you have to read all of it, not just pick out some verses to try and confuse someone. Read further in John l0:30," I and my Father are one". You are someone who has read the Bible, obviously, but you are missing the one greatest point and that is: John 3:3," Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God". Once you are born again, the Holy Spirit, which is the third part of the Trinity, comes into your heart, and then you have the Holy Spirit, which is supernatural, to lead you, and guide you into all truth. You will see everything in a new light, and the truth will be revealed unto you. It is worth finding, you will never know until you find it.
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Im guessing a lot of people aren't aware of this but the Mormon scriptures include the KIng James version of the bible as well as the book of Mormon. They teach from both books. I'm sure this will become a hot topic with Romney and all but as an ex-Mormon I would still say they are some of the nicest friendliest people you will ever meet. They have some weird beliefs but if I was absolutely forced to go to a church (I'm an atheist) I would go there hands down. Never in my life have I felt as welcome at a place. If you meet a Mormon ask them they'd be happy to tell you about what they believe and their religion centers around Jesus. It is the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints after all.
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Thought wrote:
Im guessing a lot of people aren't aware of this but the Mormon scriptures include the KIng James version of the bible as well as the book of Mormon. They teach from both books. I'm sure this will become a hot topic with Romney and all but as an ex-Mormon I would still say they are some of the nicest friendliest people you will ever meet. They have some weird beliefs but if I was absolutely forced to go to a church (I'm an atheist) I would go there hands down. Never in my life have I felt as welcome at a place. If you meet a Mormon ask them they'd be happy to tell you about what they believe and their religion centers around Jesus. It is the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints after all.
Why didn't any of the false prophet Joseph Smith's predictions come true/ No not one! He started the Mormon cult! By the way god gave us all His words in the KJB!

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Truth Spreader wrote:
<quoted text> None of these verse say Jesus is not God. The KJB in 1 John 5:7 does however. "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these THREE ARE ONE." Almost all bibles since the KJB leave this verse out. I know you will say the Word is not Jesus, but in John 1:1 it is very clear the the Word is Jesus. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the WORD is GOD. There will always be an attack on Jesus saying He is not God until He returns again!
you are irrelevant.

again i remind you that the concept of the triunal god is a construct of constantine in or about 365 c.e.

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Love God wrote:
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In all of the verses, He is referrring to God, the Father, who is the first part of the Trinity. God the Father is the first part of the Trinity, and Jesus, the Son, is pointing the way to the Father, you have to read all of it, not just pick out some verses to try and confuse someone. Read further in John l0:30," I and my Father are one". You are someone who has read the Bible, obviously, but you are missing the one greatest point and that is: John 3:3," Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God". Once you are born again, the Holy Spirit, which is the third part of the Trinity, comes into your heart, and then you have the Holy Spirit, which is supernatural, to lead you, and guide you into all truth. You will see everything in a new light, and the truth will be revealed unto you. It is worth finding, you will never know until you find it.
i quit reading after the "captain midnight decoder ring" part of your statement.

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Thought wrote:
Im guessing a lot of people aren't aware of this but the Mormon scriptures include the KIng James version of the bible as well as the book of Mormon. They teach from both books. I'm sure this will become a hot topic with Romney and all but as an ex-Mormon I would still say they are some of the nicest friendliest people you will ever meet. They have some weird beliefs but if I was absolutely forced to go to a church (I'm an atheist) I would go there hands down. Never in my life have I felt as welcome at a place. If you meet a Mormon ask them they'd be happy to tell you about what they believe and their religion centers around Jesus. It is the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints after all.
you are correct. the first real in depth conversation i ever had with a mormon was with a man i worked with, very intelligent, very well read in both books. and without a doubt one of the most accepting person of religion that i have ever encountered as an "atheist". we had many in depth conversations regarding his reasoning, beliefs, the bible, the book of mormon and my beliefs and reasoning as well.

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<quoted text> Why didn't any of the false prophet Joseph Smith's predictions come true/ No not one! He started the Mormon cult! By the way god gave us all His words in the KJB!
no. man gave you the king james bible.
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justsomedude wrote:
<quoted text> You are my new hero! Should we send him some aloe for that wicked burn?:))
just because u disagree with faith believers it isnt funny or nice to constantly try to disapprove and/or make fun of them. spread love not hate!! no matter what ur faith is in!!
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justsomedude wrote:
<quoted text> You are my new hero! Should we send him some aloe for that wicked burn?:))
The sad part is that you may laugh today, but in eternity there will be no laughter unless you are with Jesus Christ in Heaven!
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i understand the christian faith much better than you could imagine.
now go read your book of matthew (carefully) again and say you are supposed to spread your propaganda.
even better yet, ust take the time to actually read your bible.
i havent twisted anything at all. i merely presented the facts without the circular nonsensical rhetoric of religion.
you are being consumed by your talking snake cult and do not realise what is happening to you.
Matthew 28:l8-20,"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying 'All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth'.'Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father,and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost','Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world'. Amen..There you have it from Matthew..What do you mean by talking snake cult. I do not understand where this came from? The amazing part and so wonderful is the fact, that He is with us always, never leaving us, I could go on and on, but I will stop here!

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