Democrats

tater wrote:

What is your soultion?

It is not a one person solution. The only way it can be solved if for Americans to unite together and demand our representation reflect what we unanimously want as a collective whole. And that my friend is where the distraction comes in. As long as the people are busy bickering over politics, the politicians, big banks, and wall street win, and this is exactly what they want. We the people are enabling those that rob this country by not holding accountable those that should be held accountable. Just because one does not see eye to eye with someone else on a political level does not make them an enemy. It is time we put petty differences aside and join as a nation and go after the corrupt and those that are truly hurting this nation, the economy, and the people. There is not doubt of the power and reasoning behind these words:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

It is We The People, not just the select few that are getting away with destroying this nation.

We the people were all working to support ourselves when that idea was placed on paper. We the supporters is a better synopsis today. The progressives have taken the we the people and turned it into we the Dependant and we the suppliers and we the suppliers are being taxed out of existence.
America when it was written we the people was a nation of industrious people and to achieve was rewarded with recognition and wealth. America today penalizes success and Punishes those that achieve. If you run faster they share your ribbon with the looser's. If you make more money they tax you to level the playing field. You fair share is the expression you have so you need to give it to the government they are so trustworthy with it also.
They have created a society of Dependants that are nurtured by the progressives for the purpose of vote buying. They refuse to allow states to clean their voting records because they want the corruption. This is the legacy of the democratic party today. The most corrupt bunch of people imaginable and you say that we should join them for the good of the nation. The only way you could do that is to agree with them they have no incentive to join your ideas or to be reasonable.
When the Republicans took over the congress and Senate under Regan the democrats referred to them as the summer help. With an attitude like that you believe that they can be reasoned with. They lie spread rumors and do anything to get re-elected. You had better come up with a better idea because they are over 50% on welfare today and that is the key to their takeover.

onevoice wrote:

I highly recommend a documentary titled - Inside Job (2010). Until a few days ago it was available to watch online for free on several websites. Sony Pictures had it removed from all websites. I can still be bought though, or you can watch it on Netflix if you are a member. It exposes the real truth about how we got to where we are in the economic downturn. Every single president has played a part in this: from Ronald Reagan, to George H.W. Bush, to Bill Clinton, to George W. Bush, to Barack Obama. If one thinks for a moment that when a president takes office that they can do what they promised, you have another thing coming. Inside Job (2010) shows who really controls this country and how those few have manipulated this country for their own benefit at the expense of the country. This isn't a democrat or republican issue, it is "big banks/wall street" and greed. The ones that brought down this country are still in power and still run this country today. The posts back and forth here on Topix about this that or another, do absolutely nothing to address the real issues that this country faces, nor the real cause of the issues. Again, people are falling for the distraction that the powers at hand want us to fall for.

this started in 1908 with the concept of the federal reserve.

Gromit wrote:

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this started in 1908 with the concept of the federal reserve.

Gromit, to and extent, yes it did. But it didn't become so prevalent till deregulation came about and banks that once were safe started making unsafe investments and gambling with peoples money, then in the end betting against their own investments. It was a big Ponzi scheme.

Prior to the Federal Reserve (which isn't federal at all), our currency was backed by precious metals. Now paper money is just that, paper money. I've familiar with the Creature from Jekyell Island. Everyone should listen to it.

Tater, you have twisted my words into what you wanted them to say, not what I said. What I said is people need to put their differences aside and join together as We The People and hold those accountable who need to be held accountable. Never once did I suggest that you, me, or anyone else join a certain party. It seems that you are adamant in pointing out negatives and finding fault. You would be so much more productive if you took this energy and focused it on finding solutions. There is no party or political figure that is going to bring about real solutions because "We The People" let them keep getting away with what they are doing.

onevoice wrote:

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Gromit, to and extent, yes it did. But it didn't become so prevalent till deregulation came about and banks that once were safe started making unsafe investments and gambling with peoples money, then in the end betting against their own investments. It was a big Ponzi scheme.
Prior to the Federal Reserve (which isn't federal at all), our currency was backed by precious metals. Now paper money is just that, paper money. I've familiar with the Creature from Jekyell Island. Everyone should listen to it.

agreed, but the private corporation known as the federal reserve has basically been allowed to deregulate itself and the banking industry.

remember the golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rules.

Sorry I misrepresented you post. So you believe that you can bargain with communist do you? Its your stance that by being acceptable to their side of things that they will come to understand your side. Good luck it has never worked up to now but knock yourself out.
Your very upset by the banking industry and wall street due to their success in their pursuit of free trade. That is a totally communist view of the industry but I'm sure you don't consider yourself a communist. I have to say that there has been many things wrong with the practices of the banks and wall street but government hasn't been successful in regulating them into compliance. Regulations are only good when they are precise and limited they are worthless when they are complex and not understandable. The Cayman islands have very few regulations in place from the government over banking but a bank there could never do what ours have done because the laws of their Island would place the bankers in jail for doing so.
Free enterprise is not a regulated society without risk its a free society of people with the “buyer beware” message of responsibility for their own plight. When you depend on the government, as America has for years, to protect you from falling down you are a communist. In order for you to get protection you must pay and in the case of government protection the cost is very high and the results aren't very good at all. When the government fails to protect you its a oh well we didn't do it very well with no consequences to the failure but you bill isn't refunded either.
Life without risk and safety nets is life with out worth. When you visit the project today its safe to drive through but the stigma is the same as it ever was lifeless bodies existing awaiting their next handout. There is no life in dependence only existence. If a black president has no interest in improving the quality of life for the down trodden blacks in America what worth is he?
Of all of the people that could be elected president from the black race this man is the worst of the lot. He has no idea what this country needs he only has one agenda and that is the communist path to destruction of this country and he has determination to do just that. He is the representation of everything that is wrong with America and he is the product of the higher education system we have allowed to simmer and boil over with communist teachings.

Tater I tried to talk in a reasonable manner with you and establish a dialog. Apparently you are not open to this. So, I will just leave this post and find something more productive to do. I hope someday you'll see that we all live in the same country, we all pay our share of taxes, and regardless of what you may think, I only want good things for this country as do so many more. Enjoy your post.

onevoice wrote:

Tater I tried to talk in a reasonable manner with you and establish a dialog. Apparently you are not open to this. So, I will just leave this post and find something more productive to do. I hope someday you'll see that we all live in the same country, we all pay our share of taxes, and regardless of what you may think, I only want good things for this country as do so many more. Enjoy your post.

You did it again tater! Between you and a couple of other posters who are so hung up on your own failures you have run off another good debater with some interesting ideas.