Ever wonder why Christianity is attacked so much?

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manicotti wrote:

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If that is your interpretation then that's fine. But, if I say something like, "That's funny", do I mean it is comical or weird? Does gross mean 144 or yucky? Does seasan mean Autumn or salt? Does tick mean a blood sucking bug or the sound a clock makes? The way you would know the meaning of these words is in knowing the context in which they were used.

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manicotti wrote:

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You are wrong about this. For example, there are several words in the ancient Greek to describe different types of love. You've probably heard church people around here use the term "Agape" love. This is defined as a deep love based on doing for others. "Phileo" is brotherly love. "Eros" is erotic love. Any of these words used in the original texts of the Bible have been translated into English simply as our one word "Love". You have to read the context to get the meaning when reading the text in the English translation.

StrayTheWizard wrote:

<quoted text>One way to solve this one is find the Hebrew word for fear and see how many meanings it has.As I already said I understand where you are coming from,and also respect your iterpretation.I also think that we have to remember how primitive of a mindset and how literal the meaning of words were in their time not ours.It's easy to pick and choose alternate meanings of words to suit a certain situation or put a certain word into the context that we need.

StrayTheWizard wrote:

<quoted text>Thats why you are a believer and I'm not. you are satisfied with what something may mean.Faith! I need the literal meaning.I can't go on faith or skewing meaning of something in order not to contradict my faith.

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<quoted text>Thats why you are a believer and I'm not. you are satisfied with what something may mean.Faith! I need the literal meaning.I can't go on faith or skewing meaning of something in order not to contradict my faith.

manicotti wrote:

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You seem to be convinced that the only interpretation possible is the one you have already decided and I don't get the feeling it would make much difference if I posted a long list of Greek and Hebrew words that meant "fear" or "respect". If you are truly interested I am sure you are capable of doing the research. Don't blame God for the sins of organized religion. God seems like a pretty cool concept over all but, his fan club is scary. I would continue to use extreme caution with them.

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Please don't assume to know what I believe. I study many things because I "believe" in educating myself. There are many good "Greek Word Studies" out there that would help you to educate yourself on this linguistics issue that you are talking about.

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StrayTheWizard wrote:

<quoted text>hy not according to your beliefs he created it.

manicotti wrote:

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Please don't assume you know what I believe. I study many things because I "believe" in educating myself and I desire to know as much as I can. And BTW, if you are ever interested in finding out the "literal" meanings of the words that were translated into the Bible, there are many good "Greek Word Studies" out there that cover this very subject that you are talking about.

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manicotti wrote:

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You are assuming an awful lot if you think that you know what I believe. If you go back to the beginning of this exchange between us you will see that I simply told you that your argument was flawed. And it is. If you are going to win at debate, then know your subject.

manicotti wrote:

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You are assuming an awful lot if you think that you know what I believe. If you go back to the beginning of this exchange between us you will see that I simply told you that your argument was flawed. And it is. If you are going to win at debate, then know your subject.

StrayTheWizard wrote:

<quoted text>Just as i thought you can't even follow your own religion.You want to pick and choose what parts you want to throw up in peoples face or which parts you can use to judge.
First aof all,contradictory to your own words,the closer we come to good the more we hate sin.
Prov 8:13To fear the Lord is to hate evil.
Naw,your god is not a fear monger at all
Ps 89:7 In the council of the holy ones God is greatly feared
Ps 34:11 Come, my children, listen to me; I will teach you the fear of the Lord
2 Cor 5:11 Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men...
Ps 111:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and they who live by it grow in understanding...
Prov 9:10 The first step to wisdom is the fear of the Lord, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding
2 Cor 7:1 With promises like these made to us, dear brothers, let us wash off all that can soil either body or spirit, to reach perfection of holiness in the fear of God.
Prov 16:6 ...the fear of the Lord makes men turn from evil.
Job 28:28 ..."The fear of the Lord is wisdom, and to turn from evil is understanding."
Ps 25:12-14 If there is any man who fears the Lord, he shall be shown the path that he should choose; he shall enjoy lasting prosperity, and his children after him shall inherit the land. The Lord confides his purposes to those who fear him, and his covenant is theirs to know.
Prov 14:26-27 He who fears the Lord has a secure fortress, and for his children it will be a refuge. The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, turning a man from the snares of death
Ps 34:9 Fear the Lord, all you his holy people; for those who fear him lack nothing.
Prov 19:23 The fear of the Lord is life; he who is full of it will rest untouched by evil
LIVE RIGHT or GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!

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concerned citizen wrote:

<quoted text>you misundersand. All unrepented sin leads to destruction. We must learn to fear this destruction caused by sin in order to turn away from sin and toward God. Once we do that , then the beginning of wisdom begins. All sin will be destroyed at a point in the future. For now, Fear of God's judgement should lead everyone to learn more about God's love and His plan for all who accept and love Him.

concerned citizen wrote:

<quoted text>you misundersand. All unrepented sin leads to destruction. We must learn to fear this destruction caused by sin in order to turn away from sin and toward God. Once we do that , then the beginning of wisdom begins. All sin will be destroyed at a point in the future. For now, Fear of God's judgement should lead everyone to learn more about God's love and His plan for all who accept and love Him.

StrayTheWizard wrote:

<quoted text>Tat is exactly my point he wants you afraid of what he is going top do to you if you do not see things his way.What is the difference in me telling you I'm gonna whip your butt if you don't listen to me.

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concerned citizen wrote:

<quoted text>because you telling me that has absolutely no bearing on where I spend eternity. Unless of course I were to kick your butt and not repent .

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StrayTheWizard wrote:

<quoted text>Why would you point out that my arguement is flawed ,when my whole arguement is that the bible is flawed from beginning to end.Why would you defend something you don't believe in ?Unless of course your only intention is to make me wrong?