I never said it was factual in its accounts
Posted in the Moreno Valley Forum
#1 Aug 1, 2010
Loyal followers and people who disagree with Gordon Tucker. How can we believe anything this narrow minded demagogue says after posting a comment like this, "I never said it was factual in its accounts" after another person questioned Gordie using Mexican media articles to prove a point and disregarding American newspapers and the information they provide.
When a poster brought up these inconsistencies, MVGordie, as he is known, responded by saying, "I never said it was factual in its accounts"
So..Gordon, you post/write stuff even if you know it might be untrue? Waht kind of person would do that?
Man, if you people still want to believe this fool, then that's on you!
#2 Aug 1, 2010
Yeah didn't Gordie say he worked 36 hours straight at the LA Harbor and then he said he got stopped by the cops because he was a white boy.
He said the cops made him sit on the cold sidewalk for two(2) hours while they checked his car.
Gordon Tucker, you are full of sh**!!!!!
And a lying piece of sh**!!!!!!!
#3 Aug 1, 2010
Hey gordie you seem to be a pretty good bullshiter.
Is that how you got doctors and lawyers to approve your disability?
Hey can I get your lawyers number. I'm tired of working too.
#4 Aug 1, 2010
GORDIE IS A FRAUD!!!!!!!
#5 Aug 1, 2010
Gordie: I want to know did they bring you some coffee and some chocolate donuts BECAUSE you were a white boy? Or were they glazed donuts?
Did they give you a ride while they checked your car?
#6 Aug 1, 2010
Are you like the litle kids in school who just want attention.
These kids like you will do anything to get some attention. That means good or bad. Any attention is better than no attention.
Why don't you get off the computer and ask your wife to talk to you and give you some attention.
Watching porn and playing with yourself is not the same, Gordon. Go talk to her and introduce yourself again to her Gordie.
Your a good liar. Tell her something that might interest her. Tell her you imagine that........
Come on Gordon, make something up, just like you do on this board.
#7 Aug 1, 2010
He does make some interesting points... He is just very condesending. Especially when you disagree.
#8 Aug 1, 2010
Some of you get really worked up over a Topix message board. Jesus, people! It's a damn internet message board, not a congressional speech. Some of you need to get a life and get laid, pronto.
#9 Aug 1, 2010
know who really needs attention? Alicia Espinoza. Her oldass husband has not been able to get an erection since he walked in on her sitting ont the crapper. The only way old Jose is able to get Alicia off is to fist her while feeding her some cheesecake.
Oh, and "sexy Nessa", as she calls herself, is a buck toothed ho. Bet she can open beer bottles with with her bugs bunny choppers.
#10 Aug 2, 2010
I guess I am a fool! I prefer that to a theif and lier!
#11 Aug 2, 2010
Potty mouth!!!!! Silly you think cops don;t detain white boys.
#12 Aug 2, 2010
Gordie you must have hit a nerve!!
Keep it up, and get them out, What I mean about them is "crooks & freaks" of any color!!
Since: Oct 08
#13 Aug 2, 2010
Gio, maybe you should read your posts. That shoe would fit your foot as well.
Like I pointed out before, here we go again with a stupid forum post, which again is the product of one delusional person who then follows it up with several comments all made by her under several different screen names. Yet you seem to find that as just okay. Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?
Exactly what does this forum post accomplish, I'm not running for political office, I don't control anyone one or anything, I'm not a member of any racially based hate group, I only agree with strong borders, DUI checkpoints, keeping racist like Victoria Baca from office and dealing with our children, local political corruption, and informing the people about the things in Moreno Valley that news outlets refuse to do.
I guess it must be working, or certain people connected with Luis Rios, Victoria Baca, Iddo Benzeevi, Jesse Molina, Delbert (Raul) Wilson, Jerome (Jerry) Stephens, and Michael Geller wouldn't be causing such a fuss.
Since: Oct 08
#14 Aug 2, 2010
From:Headless bodies and other immigration tall tales in Arizona.
Post No. 51
"If I were to base everything on the news media, Luis Rios would be a city councilman. Some people don't even look at the real crime data, they seek out a favorable news piece and that's it."
"Unlike some, I get daily emails from ICE, DHS, FBI, CBP, DOJ and may state attorney generals offices. I will take their word over media matters etc."
Post No. 55
"Thew news media is not true crime stats."
"Is the Arizona Republic correct in their claims, they show no numbers to support them. You know those things which the army of one seem to demand here."
"Well let's see by the numbers if they are correct. Might takes some time, but what the heck."
As for the articles I placed in that forum, in no way did I claim them as accurate in any way, nor is any thing written my word except the following;
Post No. 13
"You will need a Spanish translator to view page."
"What needs to be noted is some of the dates which various news reports were made, as well as who made them, such as Media-matters, The Huffington Report. Both these two entities did not fully consult with law enforcement officials, however spoke with private companies. Which in fact only referred to countries and their overall numbers and by cities."
"In doing this, of course the United States will come in low on the scale. If you pull up the FBI crime stats, you will see that kidnapping isn't listed within the stats at all, they are however combined within a set type of crime."
Here is what guest had to say;
Post No. 2
"But really the person who hasn't did her job is Brewer. She should screw her head back on and start telling Americans the truth."
"Yes America, lets tell THE TRUTH!"
Now that is someone calling a press article as fact, when using the word truth.
Since: Oct 08
#15 Aug 2, 2010
This is a subsidiary of The Arizona Republic News Paper based in Phoenix Arizona, the source which was used by Guest for her proof of false claims and lies made by Arizona Governor Brewer.
Here is what they claim on their crime stats page;
"Each year, U.S. cities and towns voluntarily report crimes data for the FBI Uniform Crime Report program, including totals for homicides, sexual assaults, robberies, burglaries, auto thefts, aggravated assaults and other violent crimes and property crimes. Not all police agencies participate in the voluntary UCR program and therefore statistics for some cities are incomplete or absent. Some U.S. cities do not provide crime totals for certain categories. And some cities have been caught under-reporting and misreporting their crime totals, giving the false appearance that their communities are safer than they actually are."
Looking at the official data from the Phoenix police department for the last year az data pages has record for (2008), here is what I found:
Total numbers reported by the Phoenix police for the year 2008 in their “Uniform Crime Report.”
Phoenix P.D. The Arizona Republic
Violent Crime: 10,864 10,465
Homicide : 196 167
Agg. Assault : 5,351 4,992
Prop. Crimes : 89,806 82,689
Burglary : 36,724 18,783
Forcible Rape: 745 481
Vehicle Theft: 19,406 15,221
Larceny Theft: 33,477 48,685
Arson : 199 473
As you can see, some major discrepancy's exist between the "official" reports of the Phoenix police department and those reported by the Arizona Republic.
Source of "official" uniform crime reports:
Note: When using the Phoenix police departments crime stats, you will need to add the totals for each sector of the city in order to obtain the total for each category of crimes within the city of Phoenix (there are a total of six sectors in all).
I have the reports for Phoenix from 1998 through 2010, however 2010 is an incomplete report, and only shows data from January 1st through February 1st of 2010. However if the crime rate remains the same throughout the year of 2010, it may go down as the worst year in the history of Phoenix Arizona, since such data has been collected. With 22 homicides, 710 aggravated assaults, and a violent crime rate of 1,322 in a one month period.
These numbers will go up and down throughout the year, but hypothetically speaking, if it remained "FLAT" for the year at those amounts, it would equate to 264 homicides, 8,520 aggravated assaults, with an overall violent crime rate of 15,864.
It should also be noted that in 2003, Phoenix had an overall violent crime rate of 3,180. In 2009 it was at 9,282. That is almost three times that of 2003. To some staying "FLAT" is a good thing, to others, it is just to damn high.
2006 saw the highest violent crime rate in Phoenix at 11,240, with 2007 at 11,127.
Remember this is for Phoenix alone.
Since: Oct 08
#16 Aug 2, 2010
Let's try that again.
Phoenix P.D. Uniform Crime Report:
Violent Crime Rate: 10,864
Homicide : 196
Aggravated Assault: 5,351
Property Crimes : 89,806
Burglary : 36,724
Forcible Rape : 745
Vehicle Theft : 19,406
Larceny Theft : 33,477
Arson : 199
The Arizona Republic Stats:
Violent Crime Rate: 10,465
Homicide : 167
Aggravated Assault: 4,992
Property Crimes : 82,689
Burglary : 18,783
Forcible Rape : 481
Vehicle Theft : 15,221
Larceny Theft : 48,685
Arson : 473
Since: Oct 08
#17 Aug 2, 2010
#18 Aug 2, 2010
It's later, gordie. Not latter.
#19 Aug 2, 2010
Gordie can you explain how in a previous post in another thread you wrote this, "Stats don't mean nothing."
Because if we are to follow your logic then all those numbers you posted don't mean nothing.
Or are you saying that numbers mean something, but only when YOU post them?
#20 Aug 2, 2010
Arguing with Gordon is like wrestling with a pig.
You can't win, you get all dirty and
The Pig Likes it.
Isn't it obvious that he's a shill for one on the city council?
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