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Sep 30, 2009 | Posted by: mvgordie

Robin Hastings Recall Attempt Drawing to a Close

As of October 22nd, the attempt at obtaining the required signatures to qualify for an up or down vote by the citizens of Moreno Valley's east end will draw to a close. The only question now is do those who supported the recall effort have the signatures required to place the issue before the voters? At last known count the effort was falling short, however the effort still was moving forward, even though it was plagued by the lack of volunteers to assist in the signature gathering, there was no shortage of those wishing to sign the required petition. However it must be noted that those who have made claims that the recall has or will be defeated, are incorrect, as there is no recall to be defeated. These claims go as far as saying it has been defeated at least three times already, or that it can or will never succeed because Councilmember Robin Hastings is supported by Victoria Baca and Delbert (Raul) Wilson, however both claims are false. A recall can only be defeated by a majority vote, however it needs to be approved before it is placed before the voters by gathering the signatures required to call for such voting, and as of this date that hasnt occurred. As for Ms. Hasting you would think that she would have supported the effort, so as to prove she was and is the person of choice for her district, as would the Moreno Valley Taxpayers Association, which has claimed she won by a mandate. As for now only time will tell if the effort will survive and produce the needed number of signatures. Those of us who believe that the citizens should have their chance to be heard in the democratic way, can only sit back , wait and hope, that the claims made by Deanna Reader are true and correct as to how well things are going.

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VigantOne

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I have not seen ANY recall efforts in 92555. No petition gatherers, no signage, no recall petition tables, no web sites, no effort.

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You'd think there would be announcements of WHERE a person could go to sign the petition.

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The recall effort has been well announced, however poorly managed.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/moreno-valley...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/moreno-valley...

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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/moreno-valley...

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Deanna Reeder:
Aug 10, 2009
Topix; "The Recall is indeed in high gear. The PE ran several articles about the recall and I have personally mentioned it at several televised City Council meetings. There are still many people who are not aware of the recall or the reasons for it. This is a grassroots effort, we have no money for advertising. Word of mouth, emails and the internet are our only methods of getting the word out. Our volunteers are passionate and dedicated. We appreciate every one of them. In addition to the Easter Market (Sat & Sun) we will have signature gathering at the Stater Bros on the corner of Cactus and Moreno Beach (Fri, Sat & Sun). We thank-you for being interested in our City's future."

Tables were set up at the Fourth of July celebration, as well as at two locations for three weekends in a row at both the Easter Market on Redlands Blvd., and at the Stater Brothers on Moreno Beach.

However the recall attempt has been flawed from the onset by poor organization by Deanna Reeder, and the involvement of Radene Hiers, both of whom have insisted their unwillingness to set up booths around the 3rd district to seek voter support.

Their claims of going out and reaching all 20,000 voters in the 3rd district were totally unreachable goals from the get go. Not from the lack of those wishing to sign but from the lack of people to go out and get the signatures.

Unfortunately it appears that some citizens of the east end put too much faith in the wrong two people.

I must say however that a great deal of gratitude and thanks should go out to at least three individuals who I know have personal put forth a great effort and a lot of their personal time into the effort. Those people are Sue Gilchrist, George Poldosky, and Dan Rice.

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I would like to thank Sue Gilchrist, George Poldosky, and Dan Rice for their efforts to stop and get rid of the corruption in our city and in particular District 3. It is truly unfortunate for all of us that Ms. Reeder is naive in that she would trust such important efforts to other people who do not live in District 3. I can't help but wonder if the town's Godfather has been given direct access to the signature pages due to the minons who are what one would call, double dealing (and I am not taking about Ms. Gilchrist or Messrs. Poldosky and Rice but those people know who they are).
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A little correction, for those interested in reality. Dan Rice has collected and turned in exactly zero petitions with signatures.

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If we are going to set the records straight, Mr. Rice did collect signatures, has been supplied with a list of eligible voters along with their information, as has Sue Gilchrist.

However do to situations for which Mr. Rice has personally witnessed, and or been a party to he has become disgusted with the actions of Radene Heirs and the lack of openness of Deanna Reeder.

One main issue I know of is Ms. Heir’s refusal to allow others to double check her numbers counts, and the signatures she has personally rejected, along with Radene's refusal and anger over being asked to photo copy the signed petitions.

Radene Heir is not a citizen of the third district, and should not be in control over the petitions in such a way.

Furthermore Deanna Reeder wishes to claim that this recall effort is not a one woman show (as stated in an e-mail she sent to me awhile back), however even the signatories on the intention to recall papers are not allowed to double check an outsiders work, or make any request without Deana's approval.

Mr. Poldosky has by himself collected over 400 signatures.

The number total for Sue Gilchrist is unknown by me however she has walked the streets, worked booths for long hours in the hot sun, and also has a list which she can use to check the signatures of those who have signed prior to handing them over to an outsider.

It has been Deanna Reeder who has stood before the city council and has claimed everything is going great, and the recall will succeed, not the three people I have mentioned.

As has been noted during this recall effort, Deanna Reeder and Radene Heir have been all too fast at angering their only hopes of succeeding, maybe that alone counts for the lack of active participation.

Maybe more should be known about this issue (At a later date).

That said, how is the recall going?

Will they have the required number of over 4,000 signatures?

Have they reached out to all 20,000 voters as Deanna Reeder has claimed in the past?(Well we know of at least one who didn't get reached, and he said so here).
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Dan Rice has turned in zero signed petitions. There is no request by a proponent that hasn't been honored. The Press Enterprise ran an update on the recall Thursday.

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The truth is if the request isn't made through Ms. Reeder, it will not be honored.

Deanna just ask Sue Gilchrist if she has been able to secure copies of the signed petitions from Radene.

You know the answer is NO she hasn't, and your response to me was simple,“she didn't ask YOU.”

Radene is not a signatory on the intention to recall and therefore is not a proponent of the recall effort, nor could she be, she doesn't reside in that district, and that fact coupled with the fact she had no idea of the rules for conducting a recall petition, her ideas of hiring outside people to solicit signatures, by having them stay at a local hotel, register as voters in district 3 for the sole purpose of being paid per signature is not only unethical but illegal under California Elections Codes, as they pertain to domiciliary.

Radene’s claims of her and her daughter personally bring down the city manager is another flaw in her ability to be trusted with such authority over the petitions, as is her claim that she gets new precinct lists every day which are current as of that day and also bear the actual signatures of the registrant. The information as to the actual signature is not legally public; the only way she could get such information would be through unlawful means.

Also question remain as to what went on during the meeting between Radene and Nina Heir and Iddo Benzeevi, Victoria Baca, and Jerome Stephens just before they became involved in this recall effort.

Keep in mind Radene and Nina were also instrument in the election of Jesse Molina (or so they claim), and were also members of the United Democrats of Moreno Valley, the Democratic Club used to push Both Jesse Molina and Robin Hastings.

As for Dan Rice it is as I stated earlier, "Mr. Rice did collect signatures, has been supplied with a list of eligible voters along with their information.”

However do to situations for which Mr. Rice has personally witnessed, and or been a party to he has become disgusted with the actions of Radene Heir and the lack of openness of Deanna Reeder.

As for the Press Enterprise article, it again came a day late and a dollar short.

Just think it took from June 15th 2009 to September 30th 2009 @ 11:50 pm, for people to be told how the recall petition is going......Oh wait I did it on September 30th, 2009 @8:00 am, right here on Topix, and even earlier in August on my own blog mvgordie.wordpress.com .

Not to mention it again but as seen on the PE site the claim that all 22,000 voters would be reached, didn’t and couldn’t be accomplished.

2200 signatures in 99 days, with only 19 days left, this recall effort is DEAD (That also doesn’t take into account where the Press Enterprise got the figures).

It is dead, not from the lack of those wishing to sign as I stated earlier, but through the lack of participation.

If Mr. Poldosky can gather over 400 signatures in the amount of time he was active in the recall effort (Shortly after the meeting held at the residence of Mike Rios in late July or early August) just think what 10 people with the same drive as he and Sue Gilchrist could have accomplished.

Do the math.

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Friday Oct 9, 2009 - PE, page C3. APPALLING!
Yet another MEGA warehouse in 92555?

"...a more than 930,000-square-foot warehouse distribution building on 5 acres on the north side of Eucalyptus Avenue, 650 feet west of Redlands Boulevard." The floodgates have been thrown open. Precedent set by Highland unFairfield/Sketchers warehouse approval. Thanks a heap! Why doesn't the city grasp that the APPROVED, designated, warehouse zone is next to MARCH ARB? Let me guess:'there will be no increase in traffic'.
"The public review period extends through Nov. 3."

For some reason the PE is NOT allowing any comments on this story.

Would someone PLEASE ask Ms Hastings about her views on THIS latest proposed intrusion into the rural life style (and poor infrastructure) of East Moreno Valley?

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VigilantOne wrote:
Friday Oct 9, 2009 - PE, page C3. APPALLING!
Yet another MEGA warehouse in 92555?
"...a more than 930,000-square-foot warehouse distribution building on 5 acres on the north side of Eucalyptus Avenue, 650 feet west of Redlands Boulevard." The floodgates have been thrown open. Precedent set by Highland unFairfield/Sketchers warehouse approval. Thanks a heap! Why doesn't the city grasp that the APPROVED, designated, warehouse zone is next to MARCH ARB? Let me guess:'there will be no increase in traffic'.
"The public review period extends through Nov. 3."
For some reason the PE is NOT allowing any comments on this story.
Would someone PLEASE ask Ms Hastings about her views on THIS latest proposed intrusion into the rural life style (and poor infrastructure) of East Moreno Valley?
Ms. Hastings took in $10,000.00 from two of Iddo Benzeevi's business partners in late December of 2008. I think that goes a long way as proof of where she stands.

As a side note for a man who claims not to have been bought bu the same Iddo Benzeevi (that would be Jesse Molina) just watch how much he is walking in link step with Iddo.

He is always defending his honor (as if he has any), attacking that which he refers to as horse people, and calling for the exact changes in our city's development processes and fees.

If you look at the videos of the public hearings on the Highland Fairview Corporate Park Project you will hear Mr. Benzeevi address those same issues, and attack the same people. You will hear the word NEXUS, a word Jesse Molina most likely doesn't even know the definition of, and yet he too echos that same word.

For a man who claim not to be in someones pocket, he shure does a poor job at hiding that pocket lint.

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sure

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I think, with the addition of THIS 930,000 sq ft monster that there will be about 2.5 MILLION sq feet of warehouses in a half mile area... with roads that are not equipped to handle such new traffic.

Has MoVal city abandoned the whole concept of the March Global Port and warehouse zone? Will this NEW West Ridge Commerce Center also ask for free trade zone tax exempt status for NOT being in the designated trade zone?

Finally, has PE reporter Dan Lee moved on? An email to him resulted in this auto reply: As of July 10, please refer all inquiries regarding Moreno Valley news coverage to Laurie Lucas...

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Here's some stats per report submitted to MoVal dated Sept 2009. Would someone please add up total acres, loading docks, and total sq ft?

Project will be: 54.66 acre site--has been in agri. use, producing variety of crops, for at least the last 20 years.--an EIR is currently being prepared for the proposed development of six distribution warehouse facilities totaling approximately 2.25 MILLION square feet on 117 acres, sponsored by ProLogis.- This proposal would require changes to the City’s existing land use and zoning designations within the site,--the Highland Fairview Corporate Park Project was recently approved, allowing for the construction of approximately 2.6 MILLION square feet of warehouse distribution uses,developed in phases, on approximately 158 acres--The Project will involve the construction of one 937,260 square foot warehouse distribution facility- one building will be constructed on site, containing approx. 96 loading dock doors to the north and 77 loading dock doors to the south.--
http://www.moreno-valley.ca.us/community/news...

Does that total, including Sketcher, come to 4.8 MILLION Sq ft of warehousing? 176 NEW loading docks (EXCLUDING Skecthers)?

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mvgordie wrote:
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Your date stamp says 2008. Thought you'd like to know.

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Thanx for the tip.

Dan Lee is now writing for the, California Endowment Health Journalism Fellowships.

http://www.reportingonhealth.org/users/dlee

"Has MoVal city abandoned the whole concept of the March Global Port and warehouse zone? Will this NEW West Ridge Commerce Center also ask for free trade zone tax exempt status for NOT being in the designated trade zone?"

Moreno Valley has put itself out as the nations next largest distribution hub, complete with fliers boasting of their goals.

As Bonnie Flickinger put it "were no Mira Loma, we have higher standards then that. We don't put warehouses next to schools and churches. Something like that wouldn't fly here."

Well they have approved just that in the area of Heacock and Iris. This development was already in the works before it's approval of the Highland Fairview project, and the date in which she made that statement (you can see the video at my other site, mvgordie.wordpress.com ).

All the projects for the east end will meet their approval, they have already opened Pandora's Box, with the approval of the Highland Fairview project.

Don't be fooled, these city council members are being well fed for their votes on these projects and a circle of individuals are in total control over the future of this city.

They are playing a dangerous game with the future of this city. The federal government has already addressed the Los Angeles port issue by opening up other U.S. ports to international shipping, this will have an effect on the amount of cargo which now ships through the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach.

The effects on the nations, and world economy has already hit this industry hard.

This negative effect will translate into a lessening of the need for warehousing in the Inland Empire, thus setting us up for future job losses, abandoned warehouses, and a major loss of tax revenue.

This whole idea of warehousing in the Inland Empire grew out of the many law suits won against Los Angeles, by the citizens and dock workers in and around the the two ports in Los Angeles county.

SCAG came up with this great idea of the INLAND PORT PROJECT, it was aimed at reducing the pollution and traffic caused by the cargo hubs and warehousing in and around Los Angeles by shifting some of it out this way.
The goal however was to have the cargo shipped via rail, but that has been found to be to expensive by the distribution and logistics community (more about this, and where you can see the reports for yourself later).

Any one for a new ice skating rink, or some indoor go-karting. Hey that's the answer to the soccer dilemma, indoor soccer fields.

Yes it does snow in southern California, and the citizens in Moreno Valley have been snowed in by their city council, and the cronies for which they dance with.
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"the north side of Eucalyptus Avenue, 650 feet west of Redlands Boulevard."

- There is two more huge warehouse projects in for review right now that are over by the Auto Mall. Just check in with the Planning Department.

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So I guess this major shift of land usage, into an area of antiquated roads & overpasses and into an area NOT zoned for warehouses, must be "the will of the people", right?

Silly me! I woulda figured that the CURRENT General Plan and CURRENT land use zone was "the will of the people" as voted on and adopted years ago.

And I'm SURE no one would ask for 'trade zone status' for this East MoVal area so far away from where the existing 'trade zone' is.

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I signed the recall petition today. The person was articulate, concise and polite... it was painless!

Does ANYONE have accurate info if the Sketchers project will ever break ground? When? Or has it been canceled?

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That's GREAT news....At least we know they are still fighting on.

I hope they prove me wrong and gather the necessary signatures required to place the issue on a ballot for the citizens to decide, her (Robin I KNOW NOTHING Hastings)fate.

This city could benefit from a puppet reduction.

I am in full support of this recall, along with any other which may be planned in the future. As such, it may not seem like it but I wish them all the best in their effort.

Keep on fighting!

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Does ANYONE have accurate info if the Sketchers project will ever break ground? When? Is there a projected completion date? Or has it been canceled?

And weren't they begging for SPECIAL 'free trade zone status' for their project that is NOT anywhere near the designated FTZ?
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