Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Satanic Priest wrote:

<quoted text>First, "Satan" is not a name, it is a word that means adversary. I am adversary to violence, to abuse of animals, to polluting the earth..... We hold all life to be sacred, we hold that the earth provides us with what we need to live. We hold that "magic" could be called science (if you had a flashlight in the 1400's they would burn you as a witch) HOWEVER, we are NOT pacifist. When threatened or harmed we will give back 1000 fold. No, we are not wicca, however Gerald Gardner stole most of his teachings from us. We are every where, Doctors, scientist, repairmen, ETC.... And our numbers are growing as more people think rather than obey.

Did you ever consider that those who have a faith most definitely did "think" and chose to obey based on their beliefs?

havent forgotten wrote:

<quoted text> the calling of any point of view as Truth is an invitation to disaster. either a monolithic Truth - which could not really be the truth, but would only be a powerful form of truthiness (Colbert term) would be a disaster. and many cults claiming to have the only way to the Truth also cause great chaos and war and hostility.
It is in not knowing the Truth, and just trying to be kind to others, that one can find the way to love and peace. It is in not making false claims about Absolutes, or about one's own power of Knowing, that one gets the modesty to be tolerant of differing views - as long as they are not assertions of Absolutes, of Knowing, and of Power to Dominate in the name of those assertions. The intolerance should be reserved for the bullies. They should not be allowed to get by with their bullying.

I disagree completely.

If the past were forgotten, and everyone began to tell the truth in everyday life, and to honor and respect other people... the entire world would begin to see peace.

The truth is a simple thing, a simple concept. Where it is tarnished is when it's revelation threatens power or financial loss, which in today's world often forces its concealment for yet another generation.

Satanic Priest wrote:

<quoted text>First, "Satan" is not a name, it is a word that means adversary. I am adversary to violence, to abuse of animals, to polluting the earth..... We hold all life to be sacred, we hold that the earth provides us with what we need to live. We hold that "magic" could be called science (if you had a flashlight in the 1400's they would burn you as a witch) HOWEVER, we are NOT pacifist. When threatened or harmed we will give back 1000 fold. No, we are not wicca, however Gerald Gardner stole most of his teachings from us. We are every where, Doctors, scientist, repairmen, ETC.... And our numbers are growing as more people think rather than obey.

Per the Webster dictionary, Satan is "the angel in Jewish belief commanded by God to tempt humans to sin, to accuse the sinners, and to carry out God's punishment" and "the rebellious angel who in Christian belief is the adversary of God and lord of evil".

Satanic Priest wrote:

<quoted text>If you want to teach your children everything GOOD and do not want them to cheat or steal, or kill then keep them away from the christian cult. The christian cult believes they have a right to kill.
My morals are better than any christians because we do not murder.
How can you say christians are good with all of the hate they have?

? ok? First of all Cristian cult? No not a Cult! Second Right to kill? Apparently you know nothing about what you speak of! One of the 10 Commandments states "Thou shalt NOT kill"! Hate? If one is a true Christian, they have no hate at all.
But I will state this about killing. If I feel my life my family or my child is in danger, and someone is going to kill them or harm them. Yes I have a right to defend myself and my family. And I will defend what is mine!!!

curious wrote:

<quoted text>? ok? First of all Cristian cult? No not a Cult! Second Right to kill? Apparently you know nothing about what you speak of! One of the 10 Commandments states "Thou shalt NOT kill"! Hate? If one is a true Christian, they have no hate at all.
But I will state this about killing. If I feel my life my family or my child is in danger, and someone is going to kill them or harm them. Yes I have a right to defend myself and my family. And I will defend what is mine!!!

Yes cult, church people are encouraged not to socialize or do business with "secular", they try to push their beliefs and claim theirs is the only way, they tell children that their beliefs are facts (brainwashing)
Killing, do you forget history? Salem witch trials? Doctors and employees of womens clinics? Muslims? The ten commandments are from the old testament so they no longer apply? All of the church people yelling about gay people? Lots of hate there....

Are You Kidding wrote:

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Per the Webster dictionary, Satan is "the angel in Jewish belief commanded by God to tempt humans to sin, to accuse the sinners, and to carry out God's punishment" and "the rebellious angel who in Christian belief is the adversary of God and lord of evil".

Te definition from the Hebrew language is adversary, it is not an English word.

Are You Kidding wrote:

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Did you ever consider that those who have a faith most definitely did "think" and chose to obey based on their beliefs?

Did you ever think that the murder of so many people who had other beliefs OBEYED to keep their lives?

Satanic Priest wrote:

<quoted text>Did you ever think that the murder of so many people who had other beliefs OBEYED to keep their lives?

" many people who had other beliefs OBEYED to keep their lives" Yes, I believe the cowards did!

Satanic Priest? Really? You BELIEVE against what is right and true? you suggest to rob, pilfer and plunder is right....IT IS NOT RIGHT.... so Evil one you are opposite of the following? if yes,,,you terrify me which is why I teach my children to pray..
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
PS...I'm not trying to change thy holy Bible KJV I just want your attention:

These are the 1st but no less important...

Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Please forgive me lord for changing the order of your work...Yet if somehow I can get the message to just ONE...I have succeded...

Satanic Priest wrote:

<quoted text>Te definition from the Hebrew language is adversary, it is not an English word.

It is indicated as English, Latin, Greek, and Hebrew.

Satanic Priest wrote:

<quoted text>Did you ever think that the murder of so many people who had other beliefs OBEYED to keep their lives?

In today's society no. People think and choose their religions based on their beliefs.

Are You Kidding wrote:

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It is indicated as English, Latin, Greek, and Hebrew.

Point being?

Counsler wrote:

<quoted text> Point being?

I had responded to Satanic Priest regarding the definition of Satan in Webster Dictionary. He advised it was not an English word. That it was Hebrew. Webster's indicates it is English, Latin, Greek, and Hebrew.

Satanic Priest wrote:

<quoted text>Yes cult, church people are encouraged not to socialize or do business with "secular", they try to push their beliefs and claim theirs is the only way, they tell children that their beliefs are facts (brainwashing)
Killing, do you forget history? Salem witch trials? Doctors and employees of womens clinics? Muslims? The ten commandments are from the old testament so they no longer apply? All of the church people yelling about gay people? Lots of hate there....

I could find nothing to indicate the Salem witch trials were done by Christians nor the doctors and employess of women's clinics. Let's face it. There are evil be in this world, but please do not assume they are all Christians. Have you any idea how many Christians have been persecuted and killed due to their beliefs??

Who says the Old Testament no longer applies?

I realize many Christians do not agree with the gay lifestyle and I am sure there are some out there who say they are Christians and hate gays, but do not believe for one second that Christians in general hate gays. I and many other Christians have friends who are gay.

trusted wrote:

<quoted text>Okay you guys, here is one from a womans point... Rape is rape for any one no matter, if excited or not. Okay just because I get raped and I dont become pregant, is it still not rape? Let's change it to your wife, or your daughter, grandaughter, or so on, if they are rapped , do you really care if her cervix, helped the sperm through excitation? No I think not ,you are just going to want to kill the sorry thing that did it. Just because I take a potty break does not mean I am still not full of it!!! If I push my finger into a balloon , it does not mean that it will burst , but only expand , to adjust... Dont assume anything unless you have been were a rape victim has. Sorry guys just a woman thang. Bring on the hate...

No... I agree!
Rape is one of the worst things that could happen to a person...
Male, or female!
Not trying to slight that at all!
But as Q said... that thought has been around for a while, and Akins comments was not that "Horrific", just illinformed!
On the Christian side... yes, punish (legally) the rapest, but un-forgeveness does more harm to the vicitm, and their families!

aWitchintheWoods wrote:

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"I don't think..." you say.
You would be 100% correct. YOU DON"T.
No matter how repulsive and degrading the MIND finds being raped, the BODY responds automatically to stimuli.
This is a natural reaction but one that raped women feel shamed by, as if their bodies betrayed them.
The body is driven to replicate its genes, caring nothing for who is contributing the sperm. Survival of the species.
If the body could choose when to get pregnant, only women "in love" would have babies.
Is this reality? No. Far from it.
Quite honestly I don't think men EVER think a woman is "truly raped."
They believe in their heart of hearts that every female on the planet is breathlessly awaiting their p3nis, no matter what she says (like "NO!").
And that is truly disgusting and incredibly sad.
I will say it again....
A man should have NO voice in what a woman does with her own body.

I never said it does Not happen!
You go ahead and DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO "YOUR" BODY!
But to KILL a baby for what some creep did... NOT Right!

LOL in a suit wrote:

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I know...
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I think that post was to "defender" who called evolution a wild guess, it is a theory not a wild guess. You christians know what a wild guess is but do not seem to get what a thoery is.
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I think that new facts and evidence will emerge that could change the theory some. I am sorry that I can not answer your question more decisively but I do not care how we or the universe was created, there is more interesting things here today and of course theres tomorrow, the future of the human race is more important.
I am atheist, that means I do not think mythology is real, it does not mean I care about how we got here.
The heavens are open to all who wonder,
The earth is for all to behold.
Its beauty has no extent,
Nor does man know the reason.
But yet he lives on and wonders,
Why.

Good post, and very cordial!

Mike Duquette wrote:

<quoted text>Ok, so you feel he presented himself to you, but he did not do so to us. So why expect us to believe? You keep calling us stupid for not believing. But no god has presented himself to us.
Then you claim we do not ask, but did you? According to your story, you did not.
If you wish to believe, then do so, but you are taking it way beyond belief, you are insisting we also believe.

No... I mainly called you a 'Tard' for posting stuff, that you say you knew as a Mormon, Catholic, and a Methodist...
and turn around and say God is evil, and other garb like that!
I tell you to believe whatever you want, but do not blame God
for you inability to understand Him...
We don't understand everything about Him, but we try!
My story started when I was about 8-9...
When I heard about God, and Jesus, I KNEW in my heart they were real!(seed planted)
Then I was drawn away, lived a life of sin, and
debauchery, and when I came to the end of myself...
Jesus was there!
Telling me, He never left me... I left Him!
Now... you can say it's a 'crackhead' thing, and probably will,
but you know, my story is not that different from SO MANY OTHERS,
We ALL can't be 'crackheads'!

ChromiuMan wrote:

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"Truly raped?" What kind of OBSCENE MALIGNANT ABOMINATION rots between your ears?
Even Paul Ryan says "Rape is rape." Whether its brutal, coerced or sedated - the act of rape is loathsome.
Sperm can live for up to 5 days in the female reproductive system, and there can be as many as 400 million deposited in an ejaculation. It isn't that uncommon for a woman to experience an orgasm during a violent sexual assault - it is an involuntary physiological response. According to the DOJ, there were over 88,000 forcible rapes in the US in 2009. The fertilization rate estimate is 4 - 5%, equalling a total of over 4,000 rape pregnancies IN ONE YEAR.
Akin still believes that pregnancy from rape is extremely rare, and he believes that his ONLY error was in using the word "legitimate" in place of "forcible". He believes that "the tubes spasm", preventing the sperm from contacting the egg. The fallopian tubes have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with this. They are the means of travel for the egg to get from the ovaries to the uterus.(Even if the uterine opening spasmed, sperm are the smallest human cell, and are motile.) Akin's source for his repugnant lie comes from Dr. Jack. C Willke - who makes many other fantastical and MEDICALLY ABSURD claims. Akin (and Huckabee, I might add) still firmly believes his source, as evidenced by several recent interviews - what is worse, this quack doctor is hallowed in Republican circles as a reproductive expert and has the personal ear of MANY prominent politicians, including Romney.
Incidentally, Ryan sponsored "personhood" bills, and thus believes a pregnant victim of rape and/or incest should be prosecuted for homicide if she aborts a zygote. "Personhood" family value proponents even believe rapists should have visitation rights to the resultant child.

Well... that was lil harsh!
You can call a baby a 'zygote' all you want!
Fact remains... If you did not KILL it... it would go to school in 5 years!
It would be a Joy to some childless parents...
It is a LIFE!
I say... IF you get pregnant from tramping around, you need to watch the sonogram, and be counceled before Killing it!
I also say... show teenagers what happens in an abortion, AND teach them to wait for their Spouses!
Oh... I forget...
Teaching them to be RIGHT is against your WRONG agenda!

ChromiuMan wrote:

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Under the Ryan plan, every fetus is sacred. After they're born he doesn't give a crap. Cut every assistance - food, housing, education, medical. If a 3 year old wants to eat, he can move to Bangladesh and GET A F'ING JOB!

What a Crock!

ChromiuMan wrote:

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They were just movie trailers, moron - not the documentary.

DUH!
We'll get the Documentary... when he's out of there!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...