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After cop shooting, NYPD to survey undercover officers

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KBM

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Also, a white guy running through a black neighborhood is assumed to be a cop, since the only white people In black neighborhoods are cops, so he would probably have gotten a second look. Now, a white guy running after another white guy in a white neighborhood, anything can happen.

The Supreme Court HAS ruled that the environment a person is in DOES factor in to creating reasonable suspicion. So if you see a guy walking out of a known druh location, that is enough to stop and question him. Sure, maybe he was just buying a pack of cigarettes, but you can still stop him.
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KBM wrote:
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Doing well, Jim. Moved to Pennsylvania, where all I hear at night are crickets, and don't have to worry about the likes of Mikey. Mikey doesn't post anymore. Either his head exploded carrying around all that hate, or his wife left him for someone who doesn't suck farts out of the senior partner's chair for 6 bucks an hour!
Stay well!
Good luck in your new home.
Maybe the ambulance chasers caught Mikey using their computer and threw his sorry as-s out on the street. His wife dumped him and now he's just another skell hanging out at Penn Station!!!
Jim

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KBM wrote:
Also, a white guy running through a black neighborhood is assumed to be a cop, since the only white people In black neighborhoods are cops, so he would probably have gotten a second look. Now, a white guy running after another white guy in a white neighborhood, anything can happen.
The Supreme Court HAS ruled that the environment a person is in DOES factor in to creating reasonable suspicion. So if you see a guy walking out of a known druh location, that is enough to stop and question him. Sure, maybe he was just buying a pack of cigarettes, but you can still stop him.
Some of these critics have watched too many cop shows on tv. They need to walk a mile in a real cops shoes to get a better idea as to what life is all about in the hood!
Zero Comments

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Jun 5, 2009
 
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<quoted text>Probably because he didn't shoot a cop.
He was in concert.
Zero Comments

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It is also funny, the perp who was breaking into car was not charged with murder.

Because, he is a witness for the police and we all know, if the cop was white, the perp would have been charged with murder.
nwa meet kkk

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ok white are better then blacks! you happy now? you hint at it so there it is were better then your people
exPD

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Doc wrote:
thank god for Mr.William Glenn and Mr. Desmond Robinson
for they speak the truth. Too bad they are only getting a few line in the papers, while the RACIST good REV and his gang get lot and lots of coverage. Any time any person white,black,brown,yellow or any color turns toward another person with a gun in his hand, there is bound to be shots. Police Officers are TRAIN to shot but NOT to KILL. This was an accident,it could has happen to anyone.
I hope the people of harlem do the same thing that the people from Long Island did to the Rev Al. by telling him and his people to butt out.
If it would have been a black cop against a black person, the good Rev. wouldn't have said a word. Where was he 2 weeks ago when a young black girl was rape in his own backyard.
a couple years back here a white cop responding to a store burglar alarm tried to question the first black youngt adult he saw around the corner from the store. turns out the kid had nothing to do with the robbery but he fit the 'profile' and was armed. The cop was killed in the shoot out and later proclaimed a hero
even though he fell victim to his own racial profiling... see a black man running than he MUST he up to something.

it's not the Rev's job to speak out on ALL crime.

This is a case where the NYPD's policy's and training on how to act in that situation need to be reviewed. What he said was, how can you expect NYPD to impartially review itself?
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exPD wrote:
<quoted text>a couple years back here a white cop responding to a store burglar alarm tried to question the first black youngt adult he saw around the corner from the store. turns out the kid had nothing to do with the robbery but he fit the 'profile' and was armed. The cop was killed in the shoot out and later proclaimed a hero
even though he fell victim to his own racial profiling... see a black man running than he MUST he up to something.
it's not the Rev's job to speak out on ALL crime.
This is a case where the NYPD's policy's and training on how to act in that situation need to be reviewed. What he said was, how can you expect NYPD to impartially review itself?
The NYPD's policies don't need to be reviwed on this. The rules are clear, and the shot cop had been instructed. he probably got caught up in the anger of seeing some skell break into the car he worked hard to pay for. Don't take police action off duty unless a crime WITH IMMINENT injury is being committed. Not dropping the gun got him shot. I am very sorry for this. He seemed like a good guy, but his mistake cost him his life, and cost the cop who shot him his life as well. It will never be the same, and I see alcoholism, divorce, and possibly a suicide in his future (I hope to God not).

Still waiting to hear about a low crime black neighborhood, though.
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Its like African Americans are deaf. They keep saying the white cops need additional training.

Edwards was the one who didn't follow the training. Its like they can't hear. But why should they hear. They get millions for being deaf, right?

Doesn't it reinforce the behavior to keep rewarding it?

Its not fair. White cops families do not get millions everytime they are murdered on the job.
Simone

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Jun 5, 2009
 
Patriot wrote:
Officer Ed Byrnes - gunned down by a black man
Officer Russel Timoshenko - gunned down by a black man
Officer Kevin Guilespie -gunned down by a black man.
Officer Keith Bedell- gunned down by a black man
I'm sure there are many, many more than these. But I guess thats alright, right?
Jim

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The NYPD's policies don't need to be reviwed on this. The rules are clear, and the shot cop had been instructed. he probably got caught up in the anger of seeing some skell break into the car he worked hard to pay for. Don't take police action off duty unless a crime WITH IMMINENT injury is being committed. Not dropping the gun got him shot. I am very sorry for this. He seemed like a good guy, but his mistake cost him his life, and cost the cop who shot him his life as well. It will never be the same, and I see alcoholism, divorce, and possibly a suicide in his future (I hope to God not).
Still waiting to hear about a low crime black neighborhood, though.
You're correct about the off duty but although you're probably right about the cop who did the shooting, we both hope not! It just makes no sense to get involved over something like that while off duty unless you're right on the perp and can make the collar without a big scene. I don't understand the gun being drawn at all. It wasn't a crime that he could use it for since there's been no mention of the skell having a weapon. I was always taught not to draw it unless ya intend to use it.
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Simone wrote:
Its like African Americans are deaf. They keep saying the white cops need additional training.
Edwards was the one who didn't follow the training. Its like they can't hear. But why should they hear. They get millions for being deaf, right?
Doesn't it reinforce the behavior to keep rewarding it?
Its not fair. White cops families do not get millions everytime they are murdered on the job.
tunnel vision - you don't see the reverse, black cops accidently shooting whites because you rarely (never) have black cops patroling white neighborhoods. in the burbs they are too busy molesting their step children

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Jun 8, 2009
 
Some of the comments on this forum are unbelievable.
Bizzare for some of them is being kind.
But then again, Topix is the home of the bizzare.
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Sylvia wrote:
Lets face facts. Black males are committing most of the crimes in our area so something like this is bound to happen and this won't be the last time. Just look who's loading up the jails. Who has their hooded sweatshirts covering their faces on the news. Some may call this racist, some may call it profiling but I call it the truth.
Whites commit crimes that rob your pension and raise your taxes.They cost the government more with legal fees.
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