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WhatGives

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Feb 1, 2011
 

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the word on the street is that the mathias baker RESCUE SQUAD had some serious penalties brought against them over medicare fraud....i heard it was a 1.4 million dollar fine......can anyone elaborate?, or tell me where i can get infomation about this.....i believe it needs to be posted in the local papers about its wrong doing....and why is it that we as citizens are funding this squad with our taxes and contributions/donations when they are charging for responding to medical calls. not that im against the squad, as they do us a service, but did you know that in 2008 their gross reciepts were $ 1,473,407.00.
just as a side note the MATHIAS BAKER FIRE DEPT. is no way associated with this squad, it is correct that their are members in both organizations but not all were aware of the stupidity of the board members of the rescue squad. by the way the fire dept doesnt charge to respond when you are in need,they gross $ 498,903.00 in 2008. These donations/contributions by the citizens and landowners im sure are greatly appreciated by those courageous volunteers.
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it will stay out of the paper as long as all the good ol boys get paid. gotta love the sticks.
WhatGives

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just an update....in 2009 the mathias baker rescue squad which is to be considered a nonprofit organization had an income of $ 2,203,972 and revenue of $ 2,201,977.....must of been alot of calls ran that year.....i wonder if anyone got writers cramp from writing all of those so called bills
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WhatGives wrote:
just an update....in 2009 the mathias baker rescue squad which is to be considered a nonprofit organization had an income of $ 2,203,972 and revenue of $ 2,201,977.....must of been alot of calls ran that year.....i wonder if anyone got writers cramp from writing all of those so called bills
Mathias Bakers Rescue Squad is not a non-profit organization. The Mathias Baker Vol. Fire Co. is a non-profit organization. Do any of you have a clue what it takes to run a Ambulance Service.. Insurance is a huge cut of the money. It's not just picking people up and running them to the hospital. Find out your facts first people.
Justthefacts

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Feb 7, 2011
 

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i think the whole point was to get info on why the squad was charged with medicare fraud and why no one is willing to publicize it....nothing in the papers, nothing anywhere....Dont say it was a bookkeeping error, they were'nt just given a warning, it was 1.4 million dollars fine .....and i would have to agree with WhatGives, your always hearing about the squad and how great they are...Yes they do an invaluable service dont get me wrong, but those who did injustice need to be brought out
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Justthefacts wrote:
i think the whole point was to get info on why the squad was charged with medicare fraud and why no one is willing to publicize it....nothing in the papers, nothing anywhere....Dont say it was a bookkeeping error, they were'nt just given a warning, it was 1.4 million dollars fine .....and i would have to agree with WhatGives, your always hearing about the squad and how great they are...Yes they do an invaluable service dont get me wrong, but those who did injustice need to be brought out
If there is nothing in the paper or being published about this, then how do we know it's true?
WTF

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SPONGEBOB, You need to keep your thoughts to yourself because you sure the hell DON'T know what you are talking about!! They just recently went NON-PROFIT after they were fined. So keep your ass and your mouth in NY where it belongs.
WhatGives

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theres enough talk around town,and the evidence is out there somewhere, and yes it is true.....im sure it will eventually come out...until then i will keep looking and asking....im going to start making some phone calls this week
by the way spongebob, how much does it take to run an ambulance service in hardy county....
WTF

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start in Elkins then try Charleston.By the way spongbob if it would have been run right in the first place the grants and donations,fund raisers,memorial contributions would have seen them thru. But,MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!and will catch you every time!!
onlythefacts

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WhatGives, I like how you use the terms "word on the street" and "talk around town" because that shows you exactly how accurate your information is, and I also like the "evidence is out there somewhere" cause your obviously not looking for it yourself your fully content bashing the squad with rumors, hear-say, and false information.

Before you all starting complaining about the rescue squad in your area you should check around and see what other communities have to pay for ambulance services if they even have one at all. I challenge you to google the words "community left without ambulance service" or "rescue squad bankrupt" and just see how the rest of the country is doing and how fortunate you are to still have a rural ambulance service.

Mathias-Baker also does not go after you with collection agencies if you cannot pay your bill like some places do, they give you the choice of Grant or Winchester (not all squads do) so you or your loved one can recieve the proper care that you need. You should also be aware that at least half if not more of people that they transport have no insurance and medicare and medicaid pay only a fraction of the bill.

The majority of the income of Mathias-Baker is through the non-emergency transports they do. And before you start throwing out how much money you THINK they bring in a year you should check and see how much of that goes to vehicle maintenance, payroll for the many jobs they've created for this community, and fuel.

Mathias-Baker has an open door policy to members of the community who want to come to their monthly meetings. It's the second Wednesday of every month. Would be a good place to start for anyone who would like to voice your concerns or is actually looking for facts rather then gossip. Better yet if you're really that concerned about the ambulance service in your community, step up and volunteer yourself. Or continue to sit at home a criticize others from behind your computer screen.
Justthefacts

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If its not true than the squad should post something in the local paper and end these rumors once and for all......
SpongeBob

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WTF wrote:
SPONGEBOB, You need to keep your thoughts to yourself because you sure the hell DON'T know what you are talking about!! They just recently went NON-PROFIT after they were fined. So keep your ass and your mouth in NY where it belongs.
No you are the dumb-ass, if you make money by billing people for your services, then you can not be a non-profit organization. You need to get your facts straight.
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I have used this ambulance service for my father in the nursing home more than 3 times. The bills we received were not that bad. So I feel that I have every right to speak up.
WhatGives

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HEYONLYTHEFACTS....since you know the facts maybe you can tell us out here in internet land what the directors, and his commitee are/were earning. my sources tell me the top director made well around $ 100,000 and the assistant director nearly $ 50,000....and dont worry who my sources are, i wont reveal them....they were threatened they would loose there job if they spoke, and you cant blame them...its hard to find a job these days....my whole point is not to out the squad, i thank them for what they do,,,,,,my point of this whole thing is to out the directors of this organization who knew what they were doing....scamming anything they could to pad there pockets while they had the chance.....now that they were caught, the squad had to pay....not the ones who committed these crimes....should i start naming names or is it pretty clear who you are....
onlythefacts

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Well WhatGives, I'm not going to tell you or anyone in internet land what the director or anyone else made because it's not anyone's business. But I will tell you it wasn't $100,000, not even close. And I know who your source is and I know who you are because I was standing right there when it was said. But it really doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is there was no imbezzlement, the squads books where gone over and all the money was accounted for. Nobody got rich off Mathias-Baker I can promise you that. Nothing happened to Mathias-Baker that hasn't happened to countless other non-emergency transport companies. There were mistakes that were made, and since then, steps have been taken to make sure those mistakes are not made again. I understand why you all are upset with the leadership but I'm here to tell you that the information thats come through the rumor mill, is as it usually is, incorrect.
WhatGives

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1st of all......i know a few people that DID recieve collection notices because they were not able to pay for all/ or some of their bill...
2nd....yes i can see by the that expenses are high to maintain your squad...how much is accurate who knows, but in 2009 salaries paid out were around $ 735,000....or at least thats what was presented on the 990 form.....how many of these employees were paid under the table????.....i know of a few....
3rd....i never said anyone got rich, just seems that way....and i like to correct something i said about the directors padding their pockets....maybe i should say when they can set their own pay scale will be a more accurate....
4th.....if your squad is getting most of its income thru non-emergency transports then why are you still considered a non profit organization.....seems like a business to me
.....what ever happened to just being a rescue squad, going out to run calls, helping the out your neighbor, being recognized as an asset to the community.....when did it become all about money....yes, i know you need to survive in todays world, but what gives?
WeCare

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Yes that is very true. I did recieve a collections notice for i was not able to pay my bill. It was never like this in the past when it was VOLUNTEER. Never recieved anything when they transported me or my Family. Yes and i know of at least 4 that is being payed UNDER THE TABLE now because they are on DISABILITY. So if the Squad would seprate the Non Emergency transport part from the Rescue they might see a difference in the COMMUNITY.
Also on the Director He Knew that he was FALSIFYING DOCUMENTS for years and finally got caught. The part on the MEDICARE AND MEDICADE Fraud it is true but nothing has been published or can be found unless you know the CASE# AND THE FINE WAS MORE LIKE 1.68MILLION.

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Feb 26, 2011
 
OK, WeCare, I'd like to look it up and read it for myself. What is the case number and where do I look it up?
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Justthefacts wrote:
If its not true than the squad should post something in the local paper and end these rumors once and for all......
I'm glad you know so much. The open door policy they have is just to tell you what you want to hear and not the truth. As for the charges that were place on them, Well if you are so factual than you would know that it is not gossip but fact that they were in FACT fined 1.4 million dollars for medicade/ medicare fraud. Check the Elkins County Court records to Get Your FACT'S. That's where the hearings were held.
WTF

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Feb 27, 2011
 
WTF wrote:
SPONGEBOB, You need to keep your thoughts to yourself because you sure the hell DON'T know what you are talking about!! They just recently went FROM NON-PROFIT after they were fined. So keep your ass and your mouth in NY where it belongs.
Sorry forgot to add a word.... PLEASE RE-READ

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