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Feb 26, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Mokena Fire District closer to Orland Park station

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Italyprincessrn

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I think another fire department in the area is not a bad idea . . . so many fires require several area departments to respond so proximity is key . . .
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And ambulances. It will be great to have another ambulance close by. We live just a block away in Eagle Ridge, and are happy to see an ambulance this close.
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Get with the program. Response time and high qulaity and trained personnel are most important in any emergency. This is a good plan for the local residents. Orland Fire Protection District is overblown, and its time is well over in the growing area.
Lt Hugg

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Penis Envy wrote:
<quoted text>Let’s face facts. Orland has more full-time personnel on one shift then Mokena has on the entire department.
Mokena Fire is building this station in hopes that they area property owner do not de-annex from Mokena and annex into Orland Fire. The property owners have enquired about annexing into Orland. If the owners decide to annex into Orland all Mokena is doing is building another facility for Orland fire.
Orland Fire has 114 full-time firefighter/paramedics. Mokena has 15. Do the math. Mokena is building a station less then 1 mile from Orland fire station 6 that is not being fiscally responsible to the tax payers.
This is all over penis envy. Mokena is scared Orland will take more land over. Mokena had the state union officials sit in a meeting with both the Orland Fire local and Mokena fire union executive boards. Mokena was pissed because Orland’s fire union refused to get involved and when the state sided with Orland this infuriated Mokena. Mokena went so far as to call Palos because they cover a small part of the village of Orland and told Palos Orland was going after their area also which is not true.
Orland Fire District personnel do not care if property owner want to annex into the Orland Fire District. Mokena is acting like little juvenile delinquents and are really making them selves look very childish.
Mokena Fire is the best fire department in all of Illinois. I know because I work there and want to be a chief some day. I would never work for Orland. They don't pay enough and are not good enough for Lt Hugg.

I would run circles around their worst Lt.
Bushit

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penis envy? i wonder if the convicted pedofile and orland park fire employee worte that? Or was it the was it the coward masquerading as a pretend special forces guy in iraq? Or maybe the convicted drunk driving Lt.the list goes on and on. Hmmm yeah, These are the people i want coming to my house in an emergency. Fiscal responsibility? Orland Fire has as much credibility as George W. Bush...Maybe it's time for the taxpayers to vote for C H A N G E !
Frankfort FPD

Hammond, IN

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Bushit wrote:
penis envy? i wonder if the convicted pedofile and orland park fire employee worte that? Or was it the was it the coward masquerading as a pretend special forces guy in iraq? Or maybe the convicted drunk driving Lt.the list goes on and on. Hmmm yeah, These are the people i want coming to my house in an emergency. Fiscal responsibility? Orland Fire has as much credibility as George W. Bush...Maybe it's time for the taxpayers to vote for C H A N G E !
I work as a full-time firefighter paramedic for the Frankfort Fire Protection District. Yes Orland did have a person who forged papers and pretended to be activated. If Mokena had older firefighters who were in the reserves they might have dealt with this situation but since most of their personnel are very young and inexperienced firefighters they would have made the same mistake Orland did. Unfortunately Orland Fire like Chicago Fire, Palos Fire, Alsip Fire had a person arrested for child porn. That is a shame and it was dealt with and the firefighter was fired. If Mokena had the numbers of full-time personnel like Orland they would deal with these problems to. Mokena has had firefighters get into trouble due to alcohol. That is also a shame.

But put the little kid finger pointing aside. Orland Fire beats Mokena hands down. Mokena can not compare to Orland, Homer, or Frankfort Fire Protection District's. Look at how many of Orland's personnel are Chief's on other departments and hold MASTER'S degrees. Look at how many of Orland's personnel teach for IFSI.

I would take Orland Fire over Orland Fire any day. Orland runs a minimun of 26 firefighters who a very well trained because they have their own training tower out of 6 stations. Remember Mokena you have Howard and Hugg. Need I say any more?
OFM 78-89

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Hey Frankfort guy!!! I have one question for this Frankfort "Full-Time" guy? How deep is your throat? It sure seems that you are trying to fit all 114 of these "Great Experienced firefighters" cocks down your throat!! I bet you are a rejected Orland guy? Another thing, I bet you call yourself a "Full-time Guy" but you really are a contract guy that couldnt make the Frankfort list either.... Sorry! Im sorry, I have another comment...... Let me quote what you said " If Mokena had older firefighters who were in the reserves they might have dealt with this situation but since most of their personnel are very young and inexperienced firefighters they would have made the same mistake Orland did". Are you kidding me?? Dude, you must really live under a rock..I know that Frankfort are so experienced. I guess you havent look at the age of your guys, I bet there isnt more than a 2 year gap between Mokena and Frankfort. Well, I guess after you get done blowing all the orland guys you can come blow me, but please bring a rubber because those guys to the north are dirty!!!! I bet you are a Orland guy anyways because you sound really dumb!
Midlothian Firefighter

Midlothian, IL

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OFM 78-89 wrote:
Hey Frankfort guy!!! I have one question for this Frankfort "Full-Time" guy? How deep is your throat? It sure seems that you are trying to fit all 114 of these "Great Experienced firefighters" cocks down your throat!! I bet you are a rejected Orland guy? Another thing, I bet you call yourself a "Full-time Guy" but you really are a contract guy that couldnt make the Frankfort list either.... Sorry! Im sorry, I have another comment...... Let me quote what you said " If Mokena had older firefighters who were in the reserves they might have dealt with this situation but since most of their personnel are very young and inexperienced firefighters they would have made the same mistake Orland did". Are you kidding me?? Dude, you must really live under a rock..I know that Frankfort are so experienced. I guess you havent look at the age of your guys, I bet there isnt more than a 2 year gap between Mokena and Frankfort. Well, I guess after you get done blowing all the orland guys you can come blow me, but please bring a rubber because those guys to the north are dirty!!!! I bet you are a Orland guy anyways because you sound really dumb!
Did you actually sit down and compose this post? Apparently you did not proof read it or you would have not posted suc a lame dim-witted senseless unintelligent post.

How old are you? You write like a 6 grade juvenile delinquent. Posts like yours do not help your cause.

It is very apparent you are a Mokena guy. No one else cares if Orland takes that land except the Mokena guys. Even the Orland Firefighters union will not take a stand. I talked to one of Orland’s union reps and he sated flat out “we don’t care one way or another”. We already run 9,000 calls per year. Let Mokena have the property maybe they can hit 2,000 calls per year. This seems to me to be a political ploy by residents and some politicians in Orland not the Orland firefighters.

With statements like yours it is very easy to see why people think Mokena is a young very immature department. You can support your department by keeping your mouth shut and have some one with a much higher level of education post on your behalf and plead your case in an educated manner.
New Lenox FPD Firefighter

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Midlothian Firefighter wrote:
<quoted text>Did you actually sit down and compose this post? Apparently you did not proof read it or you would have not posted suc a lame dim-witted senseless unintelligent post.
How old are you? You write like a 6 grade juvenile delinquent. Posts like yours do not help your cause.
It is very apparent you are a Mokena guy. No one else cares if Orland takes that land except the Mokena guys. Even the Orland Firefighters union will not take a stand. I talked to one of Orland&#8217;s union reps and he sated flat out &#8220;we don&#8217;t care one way or another&#8221;. We already run 9,000 calls per year. Let Mokena have the property maybe they can hit 2,000 calls per year. This seems to me to be a political ploy by residents and some politicians in Orland not the Orland firefighters.
With statements like yours it is very easy to see why people think Mokena is a young very immature department. You can support your department by keeping your mouth shut and have some one with a much higher level of education post on your behalf and plead your case in an educated manner.
We have our problems in New Lenox but Mokena fire is loaded with a bunch of juvenile delinquents. They are a very strange group. For example the intersection of 191/LaGrange RD is half Frankfort and half Mokena. If Frankfort receives a call of an accident with injuries at that intersection Mokena demands they are to be dispatched also just in case it is in their jurisdiction. So you have all of the equipment running lights and sirens to an accident just in case the accident happens to be in Mokena&#8217;s jurisdiction.

Just wait until an accident happens because of Mokena responding to the scene just in case. That type of juvenile thinking went out years ago in most all other full-time fire departments.

By the way I would take Orland Fire over Mokena fire any time any day hands down. There is no comparison.
Lt Hugg

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OFM 78-89 wrote:
Hey Frankfort guy!!! I have one question for this Frankfort "Full-Time" guy? How deep is your throat? It sure seems that you are trying to fit all 114 of these "Great Experienced firefighters" cocks down your throat!! I bet you are a rejected Orland guy? Another thing, I bet you call yourself a "Full-time Guy" but you really are a contract guy that couldnt make the Frankfort list either.... Sorry! Im sorry, I have another comment...... Let me quote what you said " If Mokena had older firefighters who were in the reserves they might have dealt with this situation but since most of their personnel are very young and inexperienced firefighters they would have made the same mistake Orland did". Are you kidding me?? Dude, you must really live under a rock..I know that Frankfort are so experienced. I guess you havent look at the age of your guys, I bet there isnt more than a 2 year gap between Mokena and Frankfort. Well, I guess after you get done blowing all the orland guys you can come blow me, but please bring a rubber because those guys to the north are dirty!!!! I bet you are a Orland guy anyways because you sound really dumb!
Do you like my post?
Tinley Park FD

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Mar 3, 2009
 
Lt Hugg wrote:
<quoted text>Do you like my post?
I work for the Tinley Park Fire Department. We run with both Mokena and Orland Park Fire. Trust me when I say this Orland beats Mokena hands down. Mokena is a little fire department that is trying to act like they are a big department.

They have some good guys but the majority of their department is like their Chief, idiots. The Chief runs around like a mad man if he does not get his way.Every department he deals with he has issues with them. He has a very hard time getting along with other Chief’s in the area.

Homer and Mokena were going to build a joint fire house and that fell through because of Mokena. Frankfort and Mokena were looking at combining services but once again Mokena did not get their way and took their ball home. Do you see the pattern here? The common denominator is Mokena fire. They need to grow up and act like mature men.
Mokena 21

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I think its funny how everyone is bad mouthing mokena......whats going to happen when you need one of those guys?? Everyone has people that they dont like.... But that shouldnt be the judge for the whole dept.
Tinley Park FD

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Mokena 21 wrote:
I think its funny how everyone is bad mouthing mokena......whats going to happen when you need one of those guys?? Everyone has people that they dont like.... But that shouldnt be the judge for the whole dept.
We don't call them. We use other towns.
Mokena Local 4270

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Mokena Professional Firefighters, IAFF Local 4270, would like to assure readers that none of the above comments have been made by members of our local.

We absolutely will not engage in a debate in this forum, where the poster remains anonymous, where there is no differentiation between facts and wild imagination.

We’ve never been about hiding our feelings or issues – we just want it to be adult like in nature, verifiable and fact-based. We will respond to legitimate comments (not personal attacks) on our website: www.mokenalocal4270.org .

We have posted a blog via Blogger, where the public can feel free to leave comments.

If you are going to make disparaging comments, be man enough to identify yourself. Don’t be a coward, making personal attacks behind a computer. The anonymity takes away any credibility of the comments.

We will NOT reply to any other posts on this forum. While we do appreciate other’s support, we encourage you not to post anything on our behalf either.

We want nothing to do with the anonymous name calling and ridiculously inaccurate comments. We’ve witnessed similar forums getting out of control in other communities, making both sides look foolish.

Intelligent debate is good… Idiotic personal attacks and nonsensical comments do nothing to promote our profession.

Thank you.

Mokena Professional Firefighters
IAFF Local 4270
www.mokenalocal4270.org
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Oak Forest, IL

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Mokena Local 4270 wrote:
Mokena Professional Firefighters, IAFF Local 4270, would like to assure readers that none of the above comments have been made by members of our local.
We absolutely will not engage in a debate in this forum, where the poster remains anonymous, where there is no differentiation between facts and wild imagination.
We’ve never been about hiding our feelings or issues – we just want it to be adult like in nature, verifiable and fact-based. We will respond to legitimate comments (not personal attacks) on our website: www.mokenalocal4270.org .
We have posted a blog via Blogger, where the public can feel free to leave comments.
If you are going to make disparaging comments, be man enough to identify yourself. Don’t be a coward, making personal attacks behind a computer. The anonymity takes away any credibility of the comments.
We will NOT reply to any other posts on this forum. While we do appreciate other’s support, we encourage you not to post anything on our behalf either.
We want nothing to do with the anonymous name calling and ridiculously inaccurate comments. We’ve witnessed similar forums getting out of control in other communities, making both sides look foolish.
Intelligent debate is good… Idiotic personal attacks and nonsensical comments do nothing to promote our profession.
Thank you.
Mokena Professional Firefighters
IAFF Local 4270
www.mokenalocal4270.org
If this is how you feel why did you guys go to Palos Fire and talk shit to them about Orland?
Chicago Fire TRK 50

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OFM 78-89 wrote:
Hey Frankfort guy!!! I have one question for this Frankfort "Full-Time" guy? How deep is your throat? It sure seems that you are trying to fit all 114 of these "Great Experienced firefighters" cocks down your throat!! I bet you are a rejected Orland guy? Another thing, I bet you call yourself a "Full-time Guy" but you really are a contract guy that couldnt make the Frankfort list either.... Sorry! Im sorry, I have another comment...... Let me quote what you said " If Mokena had older firefighters who were in the reserves they might have dealt with this situation but since most of their personnel are very young and inexperienced firefighters they would have made the same mistake Orland did". Are you kidding me?? Dude, you must really live under a rock..I know that Frankfort are so experienced. I guess you havent look at the age of your guys, I bet there isnt more than a 2 year gap between Mokena and Frankfort. Well, I guess after you get done blowing all the orland guys you can come blow me, but please bring a rubber because those guys to the north are dirty!!!! I bet you are a Orland guy anyways because you sound really dumb!
Typical Mokena firefighter response. When I worked in the suburbs Mokena was loaded with a bunch of jagbags from their chief on down. Judging by this post it hasn't changed much. They really need to grow up.
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New Lenox FPD Firefighter wrote:
<quoted text>We have our problems in New Lenox but Mokena fire is loaded with a bunch of juvenile delinquents. They are a very strange group. For example the intersection of 191/LaGrange RD is half Frankfort and half Mokena. If Frankfort receives a call of an accident with injuries at that intersection Mokena demands they are to be dispatched also just in case it is in their jurisdiction. So you have all of the equipment running lights and sirens to an accident just in case the accident happens to be in Mokena&#8217;s jurisdiction.
Just wait until an accident happens because of Mokena responding to the scene just in case. That type of juvenile thinking went out years ago in most all other full-time fire departments.
By the way I would take Orland Fire over Mokena fire any time any day hands down. There is no comparison.
First you need to be OFFERED a job at a fulltime department before you start deciding where you want to work. Keep those buffalos going in new lenox buddy
Union

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Tinley Park FD wrote:
<quoted text>We don't call them. We use other towns.
TP most definately has no room to talk. What do you guys walk in the station in the morning and draw straws to see who gets to play the character B.C. 201 for the day. Go reset your 30 fire alarms a day. SCABS
Union

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Never said I worked for Mokena because i dont. Perhaps you are one of those many union guys who scabs at TP on your time off. Congrats you make the International proud.
The Brotherhood

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It doesn't matter if you are union or non-union we are all brothers serving and protecting our communities. Your all acting like bitches and giving our profession a bad name!!!!
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